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Gary Gutful

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Maybe.

But we all know why you're really not sourcing. Don't we?

Pretty sure I am, Baz. Actually, I'm the only one who is.

Like I posted yesterday morning, Bandy doesn't even know what this is:

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With Mann's hockeystick graph, it forms the most famous pair of IPCC graphs ever.

And he tells me I have to source it :p

Just that by itself shows that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I literally mean that. All jokes aside, all fun aside, all me being a dick aside - I literally mean that. It's all you need to read - not knowing the graph that is at the heart of the claim that climate change is based on altered data (which the IPCC itself once used) is absolutely and 100% illustrative of a complete lack of knowledge of climate change.

It's all just word mincing to try and win internet points.

No data, no source material, no papers - they haven't even read the IPCC reports.

Don't post screenshots!!!...then posts an unsourced screenshot. ;)
Low confidence means more likely than not!!! :)
The anthropogenic carbon will kill plants!!! It will be too much for them!!! :cool:

The posts are all just word mincing.

I've referenced and linked to AR1, the precursor to AR1 (DoE), AR5, the Guidance Notes, NASA and the EPA. And I'm not sourcing? ;)
 
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Bazal

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Pretty sure I am, Baz. Actually, I'm the only one who is.

Like I posted yesterday morning, Bandy doesn't even know what this is:

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With Mann's hockeystick graph, it forms the most famous pair of IPCC graphs ever.

And he tells me I have to source it :p

Just that by itself shows that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I literally mean that. All jokes aside, all fun aside, all me being a dick aside - I literally mean that. It's all you need to read - not knowing the graph that is at the heart of the claim that climate change is based on altered data (which the IPCC itself once used) is absolutely and 100% illustrative of a complete lack of knowledge of climate change.

It's all just word mincing to try and win internet points.

No data, no source material, no papers - they haven't even read the IPCC reports.

Don't post screenshots!!!...then posts an unsourced screenshot. ;)
Low confidence means more likely than not!!! :)
The anthropogenic carbon will kill plants!!! It will be too much for them!!! :cool:

The posts are all just word mincing.

I've referenced and linked to AR1, the precursor to AR1 (DoE), AR5, the Guidance Notes, NASA and the EPA. And I'm not sourcing? ;)

Bandy isn't relevant to my point mate. If you don't understand why providing a source is important, then perhaps you need to read more.

Anyway you and him continue the dance by all means. But source your shit.
 

Gary Gutful

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The climate troll has arrived like clockwork. Can't wait for tomorrow morning's installment (although I reckon I know what it will say).
 

Gronk

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It's hard to keep up, but the anthropogenic deniers are now saying that changes to the Indian Ocean Dipole are the reason why we are experiencing warmer weather and the late arriving big wet up north. .
 

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It's hard to keep up, but the anthropogenic deniers are now saying that changes to the Indian Ocean Dipole are the reason why we are experiencing warmer weather and the late arriving big wet up north. .

It might be, though.

The two aren't mutually exclusive...
 

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It might be, though.

The two aren't mutually exclusive...

Ugh. The point is not about the Indian Ocean Dipole. Same as the point is not about hazard reduction etc

The point is that climate change means that the frequency of extreme positive dipole events would increase this century from one every 17.3 years to one every 6.3 years. The point is that climate change is shortening the window that allows for safe hazard reduction.
 

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Ugh. The point is not about the Indian Ocean Dipole. Same as the point is not about hazard reduction etc

The point is that climate change means that the frequency of extreme positive dipole events would increase this century from one every 17.3 years to one every 6.3 years. The point is that climate change is shortening the window that allows for safe hazard reduction.

The point is you're just as bad the deniers, on the other end of the spectrum

Ugh indeed...
 

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That was a Brett Kenny swerve away from the point.

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Lol. No it wasn't. You went "lol deniers are talking about dipoles!" and discounted a system that can and does affect climate, then you went off on a tangent about hazard reduction burns which no one mentioned and said "oh the dipole isn't the point", and you wanna talk about swerves?

Once again, a system other than climate change could be to blame for some or all of our weather. It doesn't disprove climate change. This is something fanatics need to get through their head.

Not everything is automatically because climate change, and despite what fanatics think, suggesting that doesn't automatically mean someone is also suggesting climate change isn't real.
 

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Lol. No it wasn't. You went "lol deniers are talking about dipoles!" and discounted a system that can and does affect climate, then you went off on a tangent about hazard reduction burns which no one mentioned and said "oh the dipole isn't the point", and you wanna talk about swerves?

Once again, a system other than climate change could be to blame for some or all of our weather. It doesn't disprove climate change. This is something fanatics need to get through their head.

Not everything is automatically because climate change, and despite what fanatics think, suggesting that doesn't automatically mean someone is also suggesting climate change isn't real.

Never really understood why you go all @hineyrulz and lay on thick the sarcasm, name calling and lols when you are challenged.

There are uber large-scale ocean-atmosphere climate interactions happening concurrently out there (Indian Ocean Dipole, El Nino, La Nina etc) and climate change f**ks about with the frequencies of these events.

My whole point is you can't but Dipole just as much as you can't but China and walk away from the topic.

How is that in any way fanatical ?
 

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In other news Barnaby lose the spill motion and even better that means that denier Minister for Resources Matt Canavan is out of a job.

 

Bazal

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Never really understood why you go all @hineyrulz and lay on thick the sarcasm, name calling and lols when you are challenged.

There are uber large-scale ocean-atmosphere climate interactions happening concurrently out there (Indian Ocean Dipole, El Nino, La Nina etc) and climate change f**ks about with the frequencies of these events.

My whole point is you can't but Dipole just as much as you can't but China and walk away from the topic.

How is that in any way fanatical ?

I never called you a name. Nor did I get overly sarcastic.

I simply stated that if you wanted to talk swerves you need look no further than what you did. Perhaps you dislike being challenged?

You can't "but climate change" either. The truth, as always, is a combination of things. You are incredibly dismissive of that fact on a consistent basis. Your refusal to even acknowledge large polluters is a fantastic example of it.

So, as I said, just as bad as the full blown deniers.
 

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Never really understood why you go all @hineyrulz and lay on thick the sarcasm, name calling and lols when you are challenged.

There are uber large-scale ocean-atmosphere climate interactions happening concurrently out there (Indian Ocean Dipole, El Nino, La Nina etc) and climate change f**ks about with the frequencies of these events.

My whole point is you can't but Dipole just as much as you can't but China and walk away from the topic.

How is that in any way fanatical ?
Why bring me into this???


And I only go all Hineyrulz when I’m wrong, which is all the f**king time merkin!!!
 

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