OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Gronk]

Hey look at the Conservatives in the UK. F**king greenies.

 

[Twizzle]

gonna need a lot of batteries

 

[Gary Gutful]

Gonna need a smaller car...

 

[Twizzle]

 

[Gronk]

gonna need a lot of batteries

But hydrogen ?

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/analysis-do-hydrogen-powered-cars-have-future

 

[Bandwagon]

It might be, though.

The two aren't mutually exclusive...

Agree, they aren't, the thing is the difference between a positive and negative IOD is 0.8 degrees C, so given heat is the driver here ( as it is with all climate ), and oceans are great big heat sinks with currents being the distributor ( again driven by heat ) , it's pretty easy to see that you start raising the atmospheric temperature, and these kinds of things may well behave differently than how they otherwise would do.

For monitoring the IOD, Australian climatologists consider sustained values above +0.4 °C as typical of a positive IOD, and values below −0.4 °C as typical of a negative IOD.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/indices/about.shtml

 

[Twizzle]

But where would they refuel ?

 

[Bandwagon]

Gonna need a smaller car...

 

[Twizzle]

I like a good hummer, never had an electric one tho

 

[Bandwagon]

Pretty sure I am, Baz. Actually, I'm the only one who is.

Like I posted yesterday morning, Bandy doesn't even know what this is:

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With Mann's hockeystick graph, it forms the most famous pair of IPCC graphs ever.

And he tells me I have to source it

Just that by itself shows that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I literally mean that. All jokes aside, all fun aside, all me being a dick aside - I literally mean that. It's all you need to read - not knowing the graph that is at the heart of the claim that climate change is based on altered data (which the IPCC itself once used) is absolutely and 100% illustrative of a complete lack of knowledge of climate change.

Gee mate,

Do you ever tire of misrepresentation?

That's not the graph i asked you to source, it was the amalgamation of that graph and the later one, you know the one you copied and pasted from Facebook?

Don't post screenshots!!!...then posts an unsourced screenshot.
Low confidence means more likely than not!!!
The anthropogenic carbon will kill plants!!! It will be too much for them!!!

And as for the above, you really shouldn't attempt to assign others comments or arguments to me, because it's rather dishonest. You'll not find any post of mine that has taken any of those positions.

Cheers Mate.

 

[Gronk]

But where would they refuel ?

The batteries of the future could well be hydrogen storage, pumped hydro and conventional batteries.

 

[Bandwagon]

I like a good hummer, never had an electric one tho

If / when that hits the market, it'll put paid to the myth that by mandating electric vehicles the government is trying to take away your ute / weekend.

 

[hindy111]

I have sourced everything...eventually

You lack sustaining power

 

[Bazal]

You lack sustaining power

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He needs to eat more carbs

 

[Gary Gutful]

If / when that hits the market, it'll put paid to the myth that by mandating electric vehicles the government is trying to take away your ute / weekend.

True.

Just read some more about it. There are plenty of other large electric vehicles that have either made it to market or are about to. One article refers to them as 'eco-beasts'.

We are lagging compared to europe when it comes to having the necessary infrastructure to support them, but I'm sure it will happen in time. Vehicle emissions are a reasonable proportion of GHG emissions so it is one area where some significant gains can be made.



Source for everyone other than HJ (who has already read it):
Quarterly Update of Australia’s National Greenhouse Gas Inventory: June 2019, Pg 8
https://www.environment.gov.au/syst...53be/files/nggi-quarterly-update-jun-2019.pdf

 

[Bazal]

True.

Just read some more about it. There are plenty of other large electric vehicles that have either made it to market or are about to. One article refers to them as 'eco-beasts'.

We are lagging compared to europe when it comes to having the necessary infrastructure to support them, but I'm sure it will happen in time. Vehicle emissions are a reasonable proportion of GHG emissions so it is one area where some significant gains can be made.

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Source for everyone other than HJ (who has already read it):
Quarterly Update of Australia’s National Greenhouse Gas Inventory: June 2019, Pg 8
https://www.environment.gov.au/syst...53be/files/nggi-quarterly-update-jun-2019.pdf

Doesn't everyone already know that graph?

 

[hineyrulz]

They should make cars that run on Cauliflower.

 

[Gary Gutful]

This is the only graph I am familiar with

 

[Gronk]

True.

Just read some more about it. There are plenty of other large electric vehicles that have either made it to market or are about to. One article refers to them as 'eco-beasts'.

We are lagging compared to europe when it comes to having the necessary infrastructure to support them, but I'm sure it will happen in time. Vehicle emissions are a reasonable proportion of GHG emissions so it is one area where some significant gains can be made.

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Source for everyone other than HJ (who has already read it):
Quarterly Update of Australia’s National Greenhouse Gas Inventory: June 2019, Pg 8
https://www.environment.gov.au/syst...53be/files/nggi-quarterly-update-jun-2019.pdf

I hope that Peter Dutton is across those fugitive emissions,

 

[Gronk]

Local man pretty sure he knows more about climate than NASA, David Attenborough, the UN, CSIRO, the Bureau of Meteorology, the IPCC, and 97 percent of people who study this for a living

Local door salesman and part-time internet expert Rob ‘The Door Guy’ Banner has today declared online that climate change is a hoax, and Australia’s fires are totally normal, citing many verified feelings in his gut. “Wake up people, stop buying into the MSM agenda,” Rick posted on Facebook under a post pointing out that the current bushfires had been predicted by climate scientists ten years ago. “Can’t you people see this is all just a big plot by greenies to clean our planet from pollution while poor struggling oil barons are barely making ends meet?”

“I mean sure NASA, the CSIRO, the Academy of Science, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Bureau of Meteorology, the Institute of Physics, Australian Medical Association, David Attenborough, and 200 other peak scientific bodies all conclusively state that the evidence of climate change is irrefutable and we must act now to fix it, but on the other hand an anonymous person on YouTube also made a video stating that global warming is a hoax, and I’m pretty sure I’m going to go with the random guy on YouTube in this case over thousands of people who study this kind of thing for a living. I mean, vested interests much?”

“After all,” Rob continued, “believing that I have access to secret knowledge, which everyone else is too stupid and normie to know about helps me feel superior and intelligent in the face of the crushing reality that I am in no way outstanding or special and am actually just a very average person with an outsized platform thanks to the internet through which I can spread nonsense and feel validated for it through the likes of equally uninformed strangers.”

“Unlike those idiot scientists, I’m actually informed,” Rob explained. “After all, I bet these scientists haven’t even watched SkyTruth89’s video on how the dinosaurs were wiped out by vaccinations. What amateurs.”

https://chaser.com.au/national/loca...ercent-of-people-who-study-this-for-a-living/