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[Gary Gutful]

Local man pretty sure he knows more about climate than NASA, David Attenborough, the UN, CSIRO, the Bureau of Meteorology, the IPCC, and 97 percent of people who study this for a living

Local door salesman and part-time internet expert Rob ‘The Door Guy’ Banner has today declared online that climate change is a hoax, and Australia’s fires are totally normal, citing many verified feelings in his gut. “Wake up people, stop buying into the MSM agenda,” Rick posted on Facebook under a post pointing out that the current bushfires had been predicted by climate scientists ten years ago. “Can’t you people see this is all just a big plot by greenies to clean our planet from pollution while poor struggling oil barons are barely making ends meet?”

“I mean sure NASA, the CSIRO, the Academy of Science, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Bureau of Meteorology, the Institute of Physics, Australian Medical Association, David Attenborough, and 200 other peak scientific bodies all conclusively state that the evidence of climate change is irrefutable and we must act now to fix it, but on the other hand an anonymous person on YouTube also made a video stating that global warming is a hoax, and I’m pretty sure I’m going to go with the random guy on YouTube in this case over thousands of people who study this kind of thing for a living. I mean, vested interests much?”

“After all,” Rob continued, “believing that I have access to secret knowledge, which everyone else is too stupid and normie to know about helps me feel superior and intelligent in the face of the crushing reality that I am in no way outstanding or special and am actually just a very average person with an outsized platform thanks to the internet through which I can spread nonsense and feel validated for it through the likes of equally uninformed strangers.”

“Unlike those idiot scientists, I’m actually informed,” Rob explained. “After all, I bet these scientists haven’t even watched SkyTruth89’s video on how the dinosaurs were wiped out by vaccinations. What amateurs.”

https://chaser.com.au/national/loca...ercent-of-people-who-study-this-for-a-living/

 

[Gronk]

A bit if trivia. Old mate Colin has gone underground in twitter and set his account to private. Merkin calls himself @crafty_cop...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hey look at the Conservatives in the UK. F**king greenies.

How many jobs are they going to lose by banning fossil fuels ffs?

 

[Gronk]

How many jobs are they going to lose by banning fossil fuels ffs?

Well you either believe in the science or you don't. Anyway, I will play your jobs game.

There are 8,000 jobs in Australia in fossil fuel energy generation.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/wor...s/news-story/18ddf975618ae782fc94aa39b763dcfb

There are 38,000 employed in coal extraction.

https://www.tai.org.au/content/how-many-coal-jobs-check-facts

Not sure if the above figures involve industries that are indirectly impacted by the closure of fossil fuel industries.

First link ^^ predicts 60,000 jobs will be created in the renewable energy sector.

When Abbott shut down the Australian Automobile Industry because of his refusal to continue subsidises, there were 470,000 direct and indirect job losses.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2016/may/1462024800/richard-denniss/crunch-time

Ironically, the annual subsidies to GM, Ford etc were about $100m. Or about $4 per person.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...m-cut-to-taxpayer-assistance-to-auto-industry

The IMF estimates that annual energy subsidies in Australia total $29 billion, representing 2.3 per cent of Australian GDP. On a per capita basis, Australian fossil fuel subsidies amount to $1,198 per person.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/global-...2-trillion-and-29-billion-in-australia-91592/

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well you either believe in the science or you don't. Anyway, I will play your jobs game.

There are 8,000 jobs in Australia in fossil fuel energy generation.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/wor...s/news-story/18ddf975618ae782fc94aa39b763dcfb

There are 38,000 employed in coal extraction.

https://www.tai.org.au/content/how-many-coal-jobs-check-facts

Not sure if the above figures involve industries that are indirectly impacted by the closure of fossil fuel industries.

First link ^^ predicts 60,000 jobs will be created in the renewable energy sector.

When Abbott shut down the Australian Automobile Industry because of his refusal to continue subsidises, there were 470,000 direct and indirect job losses.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2016/may/1462024800/richard-denniss/crunch-time

Ironically, the annual subsidies to GM, Ford etc were about $100m. Or about $4 per person.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...m-cut-to-taxpayer-assistance-to-auto-industry

The IMF estimates that annual energy subsidies in Australia total $29 billion, representing 2.3 per cent of Australian GDP. On a per capita basis, Australian fossil fuel subsidies amount to $1,198 per person.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/global-...2-trillion-and-29-billion-in-australia-91592/

If you trust the predictions of experts you obviously forget the majority of times when they're wrong. More likely you never hear about it. They only ever remind us what they predicted when they're right.

A bird in the hand Gronk...

 

[Gronk]

If you trust the predictions of experts you obviously forget the majority of times when they're wrong. More likely you never hear about it. They only ever remind us what they predicted when they're right.

A bird in the hand Gronk...

Gee it's not like you to dismiss the validity/reliability of sources and expert opinion.

How about you address the issue. But jobs in the fossil fuel industry vs jobs in renewables.

Whilst you do that, please tell me why the jobs in the mines and coal power stations are so precious, yet those in the auto plants and those in the auto parts supply chain etc where not.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Gee it's not like you to dismiss the validity/reliability of sources and expert opinion.

Well I'm an expert so I know how reliable they are. The customers of experts want certainty, not the truth. This is especially true when the customer is the media. So to be the best expert you need to tell your customers what they want to hear. It's all very depressing.

How about you address the issue. But jobs in the fossil fuel industry vs jobs in renewables.

Whilst you do that, please tell me why the jobs in the mines and coal power stations are so precious, yet those in the auto plants and those in the auto parts supply chain etc where not.

Everyone thinks his/her job is precious. The difference is resource extraction isn't something that can be outsourced to China. Manufacturing is.

 

[Gronk]

Well I'm an expert so I know how reliable they are. The customers of experts want certainty, not the truth. This is especially true when the customer is the media. So to be the best expert you need to tell your customers what they want to hear. It's all very depressing.

Everyone thinks his/her job is precious. The difference is resource extraction isn't something that can be outsourced to China. Manufacturing is.

So I guess the answer is no. Fizzer.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What was the question?

 

[Gary Gutful]

What was the question?

How many chickens does it take to kill an elephant?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Depends where you stuff them

 

[Gary Gutful]

Depends where you stuff them

True. There are a lot of options.

Reminds me of the time I whipped one through Tziporah Malkah.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

True. There are a lot of options.

Reminds me of the time I whipped one through Tziporah Malkah.

I caught an elevator with her once, back when she was hot. It remains my greatest claim to fame.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I caught an elevator with her once, back when she was hot. It remains my greatest claim to fame.

I would have thought inventing keto tops that one.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Gee mate,

Do you ever tire of misrepresentation?

That's not the graph i asked you to source, it was the amalgamation of that graph and the later one, you know the one you copied and pasted from Facebook?

The source of the amalgamated graph is irrelevant. If the two source graphs are legitimate then it doesn't matter if Joe Blow put them together in his Mum's basement while masturbating to episodes of The Golden Girls.

Just while we're here, though, mate - a quick reminder that you needed a source for this:



Because you don't know what it is

And as for the above, you really shouldn't attempt to assign others comments or arguments to me, because it's rather dishonest. You'll not find any post of mine that has taken any of those positions.

Cheers Mate.

I was only assigning one of those to you. That part was a general post, amalgamating the hilarity of a bunch of you into one small package for convenience.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

You lack sustaining power

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I'm here for a good time, not a long time.

 

[hindy111]

If you trust the predictions of experts you obviously forget the majority of times when they're wrong. More likely you never hear about it. They only ever remind us what they predicted when they're right.

A bird in the hand Gronk...

Like gambling

 

[hindy111]

How many chickens does it take to kill an elephant?

You would need atleast 500

 

[Gronk]

I caught an elevator with her once, back when she was hot. It remains my greatest claim to fame.

Yes ! I shopped in Coles the same time as her once (when she was hot). Stunning.

 

[Bandwagon]

The source of the amalgamated graph is irrelevant. If the two source graphs are legitimate then it doesn't matter if Joe Blow put them together in his Mum's basement while masturbating to episodes of The Golden Girls.

I reckon you're getting ever closer there to the original source of that amalgamated graph, which of course you posted because you actually believe it makes some kind of point.

Just while we're here, though, mate - a quick reminder that you needed a source for this:

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Because you don't know what it is

Cool story bro.

I was only assigning one of those to you. That part was a general post, amalgamating the hilarity of a bunch of you into one small package for convenience.

Even if so, you are still attributing me one too many.