OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Suitman]

I reckon you and Suitman are Colin in this debate. I'm the one who knows what he's talking about. You guys are the ones wantin' to blame the gubmint no matter what they do.

Why mention me? I haven't even been part of the conversation.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Which statement?

The other one.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Way to miss the point again. It’s wonderful that yours works fine, however there are literally millions of people who have been bumped off their private enterprise adsl2 service and forced to join a government built inferior product being the nbn. I’m not going to bother with your straw man bs about technology half life. The case in point is that the LNP built a lame duck.

Just because it's not as good (or expensive) as you'd like doesn't make it a lame duck. And more discerning (i.e. wealthy) consumers can always shell out for an alternative that isn't funded by the taxpayer.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why mention me? I haven't even been part of the conversation.

I saw you agreed with Gronk's comment.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why is that a problem?

It's not a problem. He's provided an example of the sunk cost fallacy.

 

[Suitman]

I saw you agreed with Gronk's comment.

lol.

 

[Bandwagon]

It's not a problem. He's provided an example of the sunk cost fallacy.

No, not really

The reasoning is not that because we've spent so much money we must get our value out of it, rather that because it costs so much money to replace that we have little choice but to get our value out of it.

 

[Gronk]

Just because it's not as good (or expensive) as you'd like doesn't make it a lame duck. And more discerning (i.e. wealthy) consumers can always shell out for an alternative that isn't funded by the taxpayer.

FFS I have no idea why you always need to personalise issues. This has nothing to do with me. My NBN works because I was lucky that I lived in an area that had existing terriestrial foxtel cable which were comondeered by the NBN for the HFC (Hybrid Fibre Coaxial) thingamagig. Plus I am also lucky that because this bandaid setup is fibre to the node, the node isn't too far away from my house. So many merkins are experincing shitness with this dumb idea.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/one-in-ten-fibre-to-the-node-nbn-connections-is-reporting-faults/


But you know what ? Fibre to the node shenanigans are first world problems compared to the millions who have absolute shit dribble internet, with a service reliability of far less than their previous ADSL2 system. It is a major f**kup with no solution in sight other than throwing more cash at it.

 

[Twizzle]

 

[Poupou Escobar]

FFS I have no idea why you always need to personalise issues. This has nothing to do with me. My NBN works because I was lucky that I lived in an area that had existing terriestrial foxtel cable which were comondeered by the NBN for the HFC (Hybrid Fibre Coaxial) thingamagig. Plus I am also lucky that because this bandaid setup is fibre to the node, the node isn't too far away from my house. So many merkins are experincing shitness with this dumb idea.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/one-in-ten-fibre-to-the-node-nbn-connections-is-reporting-faults/

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But you know what ? Fibre to the node shenanigans are first world problems compared to the millions who have absolute shit dribble internet, with a service reliability of far less than their previous ADSL2 system. It is a major f**kup with no solution in sight other than throwing more cash at it.

Improving things for 'everybody' always makes it worse for a few. That's true of any top down decision, such as those made by governments. This one is no different. There is no one-size-fits-all decision that would have made everyone happy.

Be honest, you just want to piss and moan about the government you didn't vote for. You've even admitted the solution provided works for you. Whinging on behalf of others is the classic tactic for continuing a grudge against your ideological enemies, when you've got nothing to whine about yourself. Oh noes! A couple of proles would've been better off with DSL! Try soothing yourself with the idea that those people with unreliable NBN are using it to post on Stormfront.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I hope Dr Karl's PhD is in network engineering if he's going to be making those sorts of public assessments.

Without exception, the enterprise network chokepoints will be their edge devices (routers and firewalls) rather than the underlying backbone between them. Especially now they have so many remote workers tunneled in.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Dr Karl is a mincer.

 

[Twizzle]

I hope Dr Karl's PhD is in network engineering if he's going to be making those sorts of public assessments.

and what assessment did he make ?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That our "basic Communications infrastructure is not fit for purpose".

 

[Bazal]

Dr Karl is a mincer.

Doctor of mincing*

 

[Gary Gutful]

That our "basic Communications infrastructure is not fit for purpose".

I bet he watches a lot of japanese porn. He needs more bandwidth.

 

[Eelogical]

I bet he watches a lot of japanese porn. He needs more bandwidth.

Does this involve salmon?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Does this involve salmon?

Do you?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Only what he can fit in his mouth. With maybe a little spilling out.

 

[Gronk]

Improving things for 'everybody' always makes it worse for a few. That's true of any top down decision, such as those made by governments. This one is no different. There is no one-size-fits-all decision that would have made everyone happy.

Be honest, you just want to piss and moan about the government you didn't vote for. You've even admitted the solution provided works for you. Whinging on behalf of others is the classic tactic for continuing a grudge against your ideological enemies, when you've got nothing to whine about yourself. Oh noes! A couple of proles would've been better off with DSL! Try soothing yourself with the idea that those people with unreliable NBN are using it to post on Stormfront.

Gibber. I’m a fool for thinking that this could actually be going somewhere.