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Gary Gutful

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Why would you be specifically limiting your reply to discussing coal?

I wasn't discussing coal, nor specifically was the post I responded to.

I mean personally I couldn't give a f**k whether China bought our coal or not, I aint about to cry over a bunch of billionaires losing a bit of revenue and having to work to replace it.
Well I was discussing coal and if you don't like it you can move to China!
 

Gary Gutful

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Nah, You move to China coal boy.

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Thats Sir Coal-alot to you!

Anyway, China's first major trade moves were in relation to coal so it wasn't completely unreasonable to mention it. It was also a discussion about potential EU trade sanctions relating to carbon emissions which would also imply that coal is a pretty important part of the conversation.
 

Bandwagon

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Thats Sir Coal-alot to you!

Anyway, China's first major trade moves were in relation to coal so it wasn't completely unreasonable to mention it. It was also a discussion about potential EU trade sanctions relating to carbon emissions which would also imply that coal is a pretty important part of the conversation.

The EU thing isn't about sanctions, it's about having a mechanism in place that places a tariff on goods from countries that don't have similar costs attached to their carbon output.

From their point of view it is to ensure their goods, which are exposed to such costs, aren't put at a disadvantage as compared to goods from countries where they aren't.

They won't be the only ones to do so. The US and China both have shown they have no qualms with using tariffs to achieve domestic ends, I think we are entering a new phase of world trade where protectionism isn't such a dirty word, as long as it can be sold as not being for protectionist' sake.
 

Gary Gutful

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The EU thing isn't about sanctions, it's about having a mechanism in place that places a tariff on goods from countries that don't have similar costs attached to their carbon output.

From their point of view it is to ensure their goods, which are exposed to such costs, aren't put at a disadvantage as compared to goods from countries where they aren't.

They won't be the only ones to do so. The US and China both have shown they have no qualms with using tariffs to achieve domestic ends, I think we are entering a new phase of world trade where protectionism isn't such a dirty word, as long as it can be sold as not being for protectionist' sake.
Fair call. Not a good idea to conflate sanctions with tariffs. Lazy on my part.
 

Gary Gutful

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.......and if I say it's coal boy, it's f**ken' coal boy, ffs f**ken'!
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Gronk

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It's about fairness (and getting the support of Murdoch to get re-elected).

 
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