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Gronk

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Wedge politics wasn't invented by Johnny Howard, but he sure perfected it. He was the guy who loved the omnibus bill. This is were you would group a bunch of changes together and say, they all go through or none go through.

If you vote yes, then you are potentially letting something bad go through so that something really good goes through. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Case in point - Albo tried an Wingardium Leviosa spell over Dec 15 with his Energy Relief Bill. He bundled a bunch of bills together and the promo was to deliver cheaper energy prices - and they would have.

However he threw in gas market intervention, which he knew that the libs would not could not vote for because they are in bed with the mineral council.

Dutton voted against it - "Dutton is a merkin. Dutton voted against lower energy prices."


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Anthony Albanese had frequently faced these sorts of political wedges himself as opposition leader, adopting what he described as a pragmatic approach.
https://thewest.com.au/opinion/mark...k-to-retain-west-australian-support-c-9096265
Labor would attempt to amend the many omnibus bills Scott Morrison fired its way to extract those sections that offended its party’s sensibilities.

When that inevitably failed, Labor would then vote for the bill on the basis that it did not want to deprive people of those elements that made their lives easier.

Albanese explained these decisions as helping to serve the greater good, but with reservations that were placed on the public record.

It was part of the small-target strategy he employed to ensure Labor kept the central political focus on the Morrison government and not itself.

Not everyone in Labor was a fan of that approach, especially when it collided with fundamental beliefs. But the election result suggests it was ultimately effective.

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The Bill was amended as passed by Albo for the better good on 22 Dec 2023. Some merkins are eligible for discounts / reimbursement from July 1. You should check it out.


 

Chipmunk

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Labor is just into hypocritical politics. Will they refuse to do any preference deals with the Greens at all subsequent elections across the country? No.

Pwong is full of shit.
 

Gronk

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Labor is just into hypocritical politics. Will they refuse to do any preference deals with the Greens at all subsequent elections across the country? No.

Pwong is full of shit.
Ah yes, you're seeking a principled stance. In politics.

kevin hart look GIF
 

Gary Gutful

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I'm not a Penny Wong fan, but what she said on that issue was spot on.

Chippy makes a decent point about hypocrisy though. But it goes without saying that hypocrisy also exists within LNP.
 
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I've never used Twitter - as before he changed the rules recently you could read any famous person's tweets without needing a log in.

I'm somewhat tempted to start up a Threads though... seems less toxic argy-bargy about it all?
 

Twizzle

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I've never used Twitter - as before he changed the rules recently you could read any famous person's tweets without needing a log in.

I'm somewhat tempted to start up a Threads though... seems less toxic argy-bargy about it all?

if FB and Insta are any indications, I wouldn't bother, they are just so full of ads it very hard to navigate to find your own feeds amongst the adds now
 
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That frustrates me... I don't mind ads etc, but at least also let a user navigate the content of the app in a way that makes sense to them and resemebled why they signed up to use the thing in the first place.
 

Gronk

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A little bit of irony here. Misinformation about the proposed Misinformation bill ? Not quite 1984 champ.


 

Bandwagon

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A little bit of irony here. Misinformation about the proposed Misinformation bill ? Not quite 1984 champ.



What I like most about Clive Palmers UAP, is how their venerable leader never uses lawfare to silence his opponents, and constantly champions free speech, and wouldn't even consider suing someone over their voiced opinion, like you know, calling him a fatty Mcf**k-face.
 

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