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[Gronk]

 

[Gronk]

Where's that "it's been 84 years" gif.

 

[Gronk]

RIP to the lovely lady Prof Mary-Louise McLaws who helped steer us all through the pandemic. The big C got her over the weekend.

Mary-Louise McLaws, renowned epidemiologist who helped guide Australia through the pandemic, dies aged 70

Mary-Louise McLaws, who was an epidemiologist at UNSW Sydney for more than 35 years and shared crucial information during the pandemic, has died after a long illness, her family has announced.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Suitman]

Well, the promise of honesty and transparency didn't last long.........

Transport secretary hand-picked for job by minister was not recommended for role​

The panel set up to hire a new transport boss found Josh Murray, the former Labor staffer given the job by minister Jo Haylen, did not have enough experience for the role and that appointing him would be a “significant risk”.

www.smh.com.au

"The head-hunting firm hired by the Minns government to find a new transport secretary initially said the former Labor staffer who was given the job did not have enough experience for the role and was not even recommended for an interview."

"The documents show in May, the recruitment firm NGS Global said Murray, who also worked as an executive for construction giant Laing O’Rourke, had “some relevance” but that his experience was “largely in corporate affairs and as Chief of Staff”.

“Has not had level of operational complexity required for this role,” the recruitment firm found in the report on the 15 candidates who applied for the job on May 29."

 

[Bandwagon]

Well, the promise of honesty and transparency didn't last long.........

Transport secretary hand-picked for job by minister was not recommended for role​

The panel set up to hire a new transport boss found Josh Murray, the former Labor staffer given the job by minister Jo Haylen, did not have enough experience for the role and that appointing him would be a “significant risk”.

www.smh.com.au

"The head-hunting firm hired by the Minns government to find a new transport secretary initially said the former Labor staffer who was given the job did not have enough experience for the role and was not even recommended for an interview."

"The documents show in May, the recruitment firm NGS Global said Murray, who also worked as an executive for construction giant Laing O’Rourke, had “some relevance” but that his experience was “largely in corporate affairs and as Chief of Staff”.

“Has not had level of operational complexity required for this role,” the recruitment firm found in the report on the 15 candidates who applied for the job on May 29."

Jobs for the boys is neither dishonest nor lacking in transparency.

It's certainly improper and just generally more of the same shitmerkin behavior.

 

[Suitman]

It's certainly improper and just generally more of the same shitmerkin behavior.

I'll agree with that, but it's the sort of shit they said they wouldn't do after the Barilaro episode of the previous government, which was as equally appalling. They promised this shit would stop and it clearly hasn't.
Both teams have been found out.
And Labor have been found out by leaked documents now coming to light.
What experience does Jo Haylen have to personally choose such a high profile position of authority in a field in which she isn't even an expert? She's just a local member and an appointed minister to a certain portfolio in which she has no expertise.
The system is broke.

 

[Suitman]

Jobs for the boys is neither dishonest nor lacking in transparency.

It certainly is when the recruitment agency that was paid $125 000 by the NSW Govt (taxpayer) didn't recommend this person for the position.

 

[the phantom menace]

Both teams have been found out.

So who are you voting for now?

 

[Bandwagon]

I'll agree with that, but it's the sort of shit they said they wouldn't do after the Barilaro episode of the previous government, which was as equally appalling. They promised this shit would stop and it clearly hasn't.
Both teams have been found out.
And Labor have been found out by leaked documents now coming to light.
What experience does Jo Haylen have to personally choose such a high profile position of authority in a field in which she isn't even an expert? She's just a local member and an appointed minister to a certain portfolio.
The system is broke.

Pretty much all ministers are the same in that regard, particularly if their first ministerial position

What matters there is the people in the department and their office who are there to guide and advise. Like the department secretary.............................which is why appointments like this are shit, because they're about the politics, not the performance.

And we end up with the shitfight we now have at the federal level, with the APS having allowed robodebt to continue, and all the mess and expense with outside consultants because the level of skill and knowledge just isn't there.

 

[Eelogical]

So who are you voting for now?

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The problem really is, it doesn’t matter anymore.

 

[Bandwagon]

It certainly is when the recruitment agency that was paid $125 000 by the NSW Govt (taxpayer) didn't recommend this person for the position.

No, that's just a waste of f**king money.

The very fact you know these facts demonstrates transparency exists.

 

[Eelogical]

No, that's just a waste of f**king money.

The very fact you know these facts demonstrates transparency exists.

So is a plebiscite or referendum. If we’re going to go to the trouble of having either then tack them on to the next federal election.

 

[Bandwagon]

So is a plebiscite or referendum. If we’re going to go to the trouble of having either then tack them on to the next federal election.

Plebiscite, meh

Referendum, Disagree.

Far to much other shit going on at a federal election, referendums are important enough to stand on their own.

I mean if you were to look at the current one, party position represents the two sides, which is shit but hey. The actual decision would get even more lost on party preferred grounds.

 

[Eelogical]

Plebiscite, meh

Referendum, Disagree.

Far to much other shit going on at a federal election, referendums are important enough to stand on their own.

I mean if you were to look at the current one, party position represents the two sides, which is shit but hey. The actual decision would get even more lost on party preferred grounds.

In May, the Federal Government stated that they will pump $334 million into the Voice referendum. I can assure you it will be a lot more than that by the time all is said and done. That’s a waste of money regardless of which side of politics one sides with. If we’re too stupid as a society to deal with it being included as part of voting at election time then it doesn’t say much about us.

 

[Incorrect]

Well, the promise of honesty and transparency didn't last long.........

Transport secretary hand-picked for job by minister was not recommended for role​

The panel set up to hire a new transport boss found Josh Murray, the former Labor staffer given the job by minister Jo Haylen, did not have enough experience for the role and that appointing him would be a “significant risk”.

www.smh.com.au

"The head-hunting firm hired by the Minns government to find a new transport secretary initially said the former Labor staffer who was given the job did not have enough experience for the role and was not even recommended for an interview."

"The documents show in May, the recruitment firm NGS Global said Murray, who also worked as an executive for construction giant Laing O’Rourke, had “some relevance” but that his experience was “largely in corporate affairs and as Chief of Staff”.

“Has not had level of operational complexity required for this role,” the recruitment firm found in the report on the 15 candidates who applied for the job on May 29."

That is farcical.

The Minns Govt has already demonstrated significant cracks in their short tenure IMO. If he pulls the plug on the Metro West he will be signing his own political death certificate and will be forever remembered as the Premier who crippled the city's best chance at rectifying the public transport shortcomings we had to endure in the 20th century and early 21st century....

I wonder why they're so keen to get this bloke in to the Transport Secretary position.... Could it be because he will sing from the same hymn sheet and announce the Transport projects have blown out in cost so much as to become unfeasible and therefore not rock the boat??

 

[Suitman]

No, that's just a waste of f**king money.

The very fact you know these facts demonstrates transparency exists.

Lol.
The transparency exists because insiders within the party leaked it to the media. The Labor party did not disclose this themselves.
That's not transparency. That's jobs for the boys. Something they went to election on that they wouldn't do.

Anyway, there's more important feel-good stories tonight. I'm off to watch the Matilda's.
I'm f**king sick of corrupt politicians.

 

[Suitman]

That is farcical.

The Minns Govt has already demonstrated significant cracks in their short tenure IMO. If he pulls the plug on the Metro West he will be signing his own political death certificate and will be forever remembered as the Premier who crippled the city's best chance at rectifying the public transport shortcomings we had to endure in the 20th century and early 21st century....

I wonder why they're so keen to get this bloke in to the Transport Secretary position.... Could it be because he will sing from the same hymn sheet and announce the Transport projects have blown out in cost so much as to become unfeasible and therefore not rock the boat??

The costs haven't blown out more than what they already knew before the election.
They are already lying about that and need to justify why they are doing so.
I've already provided the evidence in the Parra stadium thread.

 

[Bandwagon]

In May, the Federal Government stated that they will pump $334 million into the Voice referendum. I can assure you it will be a lot more than that by the time all is said and done. That’s a waste of money regardless of which side of politics one sides with. If we’re too stupid as a society to deal with it being included as part of voting at election time then it doesn’t say much about us.

That number is not the actual cost of the AEC conducting the referendum, it includes all kinds of extras which would have to be funded at any rate.

As for what it say about us being too stupid, I'd argue for the most part it's more that people just aren't that engaged, they have more important shit to deal with.

 

[Gronk]

In May, the Federal Government stated that they will pump $334 million into the Voice referendum. I can assure you it will be a lot more than that by the time all is said and done. That’s a waste of money regardless of which side of politics one sides with. If we’re too stupid as a society to deal with it being included as part of voting at election time then it doesn’t say much about us.

Some people think it’s important enough to be a stand alone issue.

BTW, money should not be argued as a reason not to hold this referendum or to hide it amongst the papers in the next federal election. Labor were in for 5 mins and have literally shaved billions off ad hock irresponsible spending.

Also $334m is nothing these days. FFS there is a bike path out my way along Doncaster Ave near the racetrack going from Kensington to Centennial Park that is costing $325m !

Labor’s ‘rorts and waste’ audit to deliver $10bn in savings to federal budget

Government will also shuffle funds and axe Coalition projects to free up $11bn for their own policy priorities

www.theguardian.com

Morrison government spent $20.8bn on consultants and outsourcing public service in final year, audit finds

The equivalent of 54,000 full-time staff were employed by the federal government in 2021-22, or 37% of the actual workforce

www.theguardian.com

 

[strider]

At least you end up with a bike path for your $400m at the end of it

If the Voice comes up No, we will end up with nothing but division, hate and arguing ... job well done