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TheRam

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Actually I got my economics education from these three genius economists in particular.

Firstly Irving Fisher who I and many consider the greatest economist of the 20th century, but now ignored.
Secondly Dr Michael Kumhof formerly of the IMF, but now with the Bank Of England.
And thirdly Richard Werner who predicts everything that happens before it happens and advises nations how to prevent or solve disasters, but rarely do they follow his advise and so here we are.

I think if you did nothing else and educated yourself on these 3 guys and their economic philosophies(Economics is not a theory, it's totally misunderstood precise science) then you and I may finally agree on something quite substantial. Now wouldn't that be great. I mean don't we all want the same thing and that is for all people and societies to thrive?

If we every were to follow these guys these three guys teach and their philosophy on how markets and economies actually work we as a global economy would thrive under a new debt free economic system that creates abundance for all and not scarcity and with no income tax needed.
 
hindy111

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I'm not that educated on politics and how the world runs. I'm a simple individual who grew up with a shletered life on a farm so my opinion is kind of worthless. It holds no weight.
The thing I am aware of however is nearly everything I know on the bigger picture comes from what I've been told or read and not what I have experienced myself. And it's up to me to decide if I want to believe it or not.
If I crack and egg and put it on a fry pan it cooks. I can see this and know exactly what's going on. It confuses me how some of you guys are experts in areas where your information is based on non personal experiences. And that you genuinely beleive that you're right. How do you know? Or why aren't you atleast open to the other possibilities?

My uncle grows garlic. A funny story he told me was how some interested and educated Gardner's come to see his little home scale operation to write a small article. Being an uneducated Mediterranean Descendant he thought it was funny just to say bullshit about tips on growing garlic. And just sarcastic benefits.
To his suprise they didn't get his jokes and his information on how tog row garlic which was utter bullshit was published and now other people are trying them.

Anyone played Chinese whispers as a kid?

I don't beleive anything as fact unless I've witnessed it myself.

Certainly wouldn't dismiss another person's opinion because it's different. That's just ego kicking in. Plus how are you meant to evolve and learn if are not prepared to listen and attempt to understand how the other individual may of come to that opinion.


f**k you
 
Gary Gutful

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hindy111 said:
I'm not that educated on politics and how the world runs. I'm a simple individual who grew up with a shletered life on a farm so my opinion is kind of worthless. It holds no weight.
The thing I am aware of however is nearly everything I know on the bigger picture comes from what I've been told or read and not what I have experienced myself. And it's up to me to decide if I want to believe it or not.
If I crack and egg and put it on a fry pan it cooks. I can see this and know exactly what's going on. It confuses me how some of you guys are experts in areas where your information is based on non personal experiences. And that you genuinely beleive that you're right. How do you know? Or why aren't you atleast open to the other possibilities?

My uncle grows garlic. A funny story he told me was how some interested and educated Gardner's come to see his little home scale operation to write a small article. Being an uneducated Mediterranean Descendant he thought it was funny just to say bullshit about tips on growing garlic. And just sarcastic benefits.
To his suprise they didn't get his jokes and his information on how tog row garlic which was utter bullshit was published and now other people are trying them.

Anyone played Chinese whispers as a kid?

I don't beleive anything as fact unless I've witnessed it myself.

Certainly wouldn't dismiss another person's opinion because it's different. That's just ego kicking in. Plus how are you meant to evolve and learn if are not prepared to listen and attempt to understand how the other individual may of come to that opinion.


f**k you
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That’s the exact reason why I asked about TheRam. I wanted know what his personal experiences were.

I deal with Government Departments and Ministers and their offices on a daily basis. That has informed my views to a much greater extent than YouTube ever could.
 
Bandwagon

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hindy111 said:
I'm not that educated on politics and how the world runs. I'm a simple individual who grew up with a shletered life on a farm so my opinion is kind of worthless. It holds no weight.
The thing I am aware of however is nearly everything I know on the bigger picture comes from what I've been told or read and not what I have experienced myself. And it's up to me to decide if I want to believe it or not.
If I crack and egg and put it on a fry pan it cooks. I can see this and know exactly what's going on. It confuses me how some of you guys are experts in areas where your information is based on non personal experiences. And that you genuinely beleive that you're right. How do you know? Or why aren't you atleast open to the other possibilities?

My uncle grows garlic. A funny story he told me was how some interested and educated Gardner's come to see his little home scale operation to write a small article. Being an uneducated Mediterranean Descendant he thought it was funny just to say bullshit about tips on growing garlic. And just sarcastic benefits.
To his suprise they didn't get his jokes and his information on how tog row garlic which was utter bullshit was published and now other people are trying them.

Anyone played Chinese whispers as a kid?

I don't beleive anything as fact unless I've witnessed it myself.

Certainly wouldn't dismiss another person's opinion because it's different. That's just ego kicking in. Plus how are you meant to evolve and learn if are not prepared to listen and attempt to understand how the other individual may of come to that opinion.


f**k you
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I don't pretend to be an expert on politics, what I'd say is that I've always found it interesting and so have sought to gain knowledge about how shit works, and I'm more engaged with politics than the average bloke.

A lot of folk aren't really all that interested, which is fine, you've got other shit you'd rather do.
 
TheRam

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the phantom menace said:
Nah... sorry. Economics is actually just a pseudo-theoretical guessing game contest.
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Dumb arse. That's what they want you to think. Then they are never wrong and they always win while we always lose.

Stop feeding into their Ponzi scheme game and playing their game. How can a man made game called economics which we/they make all the rules(and power to issue currency the tokens which you play it with) be a pseudo-theoretical guessing game contest?

If you are smart, you will make it as complicated as all f**k so that the idiots don't have a clue what the rules actually are and even if they worked them out, the Lords of Finance just make subtle changes to the rules enough to stack it back into their favour.
 
strider

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TheRam said:
Agreed totally mate.

But how come you get a thumbs up from that clown @Gary Gutful on this topic and all I get is bagging's and slagging's?

That's not fair mate. What's going on, have you two got your own Bones On Bones secret society club? Maybe your own sub chapter called Kolbasa On Kolbasa. I'm on to you boys and I want in!
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Well I dont call all the f**kwits, f**kwits ... im very tactful
 
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With regards to the Josh Murray appointment, Of all people, Haylen should understand politics, process and transparency better than anyone. She spent much of her career working for Albo and Gillard, and was a former Mayor. The exact opposite has happened. She's turned out to be a dud operator and performer. The media have every right to go after her for what is clearly a dodgy process. She parachuted an external candidate onto a shortlist, ignored a process with advice that cost $125,000, didn't declare donations to her from the successful applicant and his spouse and refused to front an inquiry into the matter and she's probably wondering why it's all gone to hell in a handbasket. I sense if the government had a healthy parliamentary majority she'd be gone already.
Alas, they don't and she remains, against all evidence presented.
And she is now in control of transport infrastructure in this state. God help us.
 
the phantom menace

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TheRam said:
Dumb arse. That's what they want you to think. Then they are never wrong and they always win while we always lose.

Stop feeding into their Ponzi scheme game and playing their game. How can a man made game called economics which we/they make all the rules(and power to issue currency the tokens which you play it with) be a pseudo-theoretical guessing game contest?

If you are smart, you will make it as complicated as all f**k so that the idiots don't have a clue what the rules actually are and even if they worked them out, the Lords of Finance just make subtle changes to the rules enough to stack it back into their favour.
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Yeah, at it's core economics is pretty simple... if you have money and power/control, you'll be in a better position to continue to have money and power/control. Karl Marx taught everyone that.

But anyone that claims there's one right answer (or science) about details in economic theory beyond the above core truth, is just having a lend.
 
Eelogical

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Suitman said:
With regards to the Josh Murray appointment, Of all people, Haylen should understand politics, process and transparency better than anyone. She spent much of her career working for Albo and Gillard, and was a former Mayor. The exact opposite has happened. She's turned out to be a dud operator and performer. The media have every right to go after her for what is clearly a dodgy process. She parachuted an external candidate onto a shortlist, ignored a process with advice that cost $125,000, didn't declare donations to her from the successful applicant and his spouse and refused to front an inquiry into the matter and she's probably wondering why it's all gone to hell in a handbasket. I sense if the government had a healthy parliamentary majority she'd be gone already.
Alas, they don't and she remains, against all evidence presented.
And she is now in control of transport infrastructure in this state. God help us.
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It’s as if they are all in if for the perks and money rather than what the average merkin voted them in for. Or it’s just coincidental.
 
the phantom menace

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Suitman said:
With regards to the Josh Murray appointment,
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Who...and is that still even in the news, on anything other than talk-back radio and Sky After Dark?

Meanwhile, in more pressing national matters, migrant communities are ensuring they engage and inform about the detail of the coming referendum:

www.abc.net.au

Grassroots efforts may be the 'powerful' decider for multicultural Australians' Voice vote

Grassroots initiatives are proving "powerful" to help multicultural Australians decide how to vote in the Voice referendum. And now a date is set, individuals and independent groups are going to great lengths to ensure their communities are informed.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
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It's funny that some ignore lies, dishonesty and corruption when it comes from their side of politics.
And yes, it is still in the news and not just talkback and Sky.
I'm sure these ignoramuses know that.
Labor is perfect blah blah blah........
 
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