OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Bandwagon]

You're either an idiot or you just love posting misinformation. Probably both, hoping you would get away with it. No one took these stooges dressing up as modern day Nazi's seriously and that's why the story died even in the MSM, for fear of being exposed and even more questions being asked.

One of the Nazis who is caught on camera yesterday(see below) at the Nazi rally in Altamonte Springs, FL has been working with the CIA by his own admission to help recruit Nazis to fight in Ukraine where he himself fought alongside “Right Sector” and “Azov Battalion” with help from the CIA.

This Nazi rally in Florida is directly tied to the CIA and FBI and law enforcement and sources have acknowledged that FBI agents were undercover at this rally. Below is a video of Florida Nazi Kent “Boneface” McLellan admitting that the CIA helped him get to Ukraine years ago to fight alongside “Right Sector”, a Ukrainian Neo Nazi group that was propped up by the CIA in an effort to combat Russia.

Also youi will notice he was one of the Nazis in your video in Altamonte Springs, FL where he was waving a swastika flag, doing Roman salutes and saying “heil Hitler”, and shouting anti-Jewish slurs alongside his fellow Nazi friends. He was arrested by the FBI in Florida in 2012 for planning what they called an act of domestic terrorism against minorities.

He also reportedly served time in for prison for physically assaulting and beating immigrants. Two years after he was arrested/detained by the FBI, he was placed in touch with the CIA who helped him travel to Ukraine in 2014. He obtained a Ukrainian passport in 2022.

How is he walking the streets of Florida? Is he still working with the CIA and FBI?
Also, why is Ron De Santis allowing for the CIA to plant Nazis all over Florida in staged appearances which are then used by the media to falsely accuse conservatives/right wingers of being Nazis?

This guy is a Democrat deep state operative who is on video admitting that the CIA Helped him get to Ukraine and join a Nazi militia.

Lolz.

Imagine how f**king desperate you'd have to be being sucked in by this level of photoshop

 

[Suitman]

Am hearing a suggested new Voice slogan... "If you don't care, just vote Yeah!"

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Lol. Lame and getting desperate if that is the case. Albanese has failed his own belief sadly.
I'm really disappointed in the way he has handled this. He has been pathetic selling the case for the Voice, and sadly so as it seems to be doomed to fail.
A massive opportunity for change for the better for our history yet organised and run by a bunch of clowns.
Such a wasted opportunity to finally unite the nation.
As for Dutton, he can gagf.

 

[the phantom menace]

As I'd posted months ago, I agree the Yes campaign has done a poor job when the opportunity for such a better case to be made was not taken.

I don't lay blame on Albanese for that though - he is not head of the Yes campaign, nor is it is not his job to head the Yes campaign. This wasn't meant to be a party-politcal vote, before Dutton decided to try and make cheap mileage out of it...

It's worked better than it should have for him - but at the cost of the LNP Coalition selling out Indigenous people and burning any bridge they could have made for the country to ever move forward under their watch. But so long as the LNP stay friendly to developers then I guess some folk will always end up forgiving them.

 

[Bandwagon]

There's a few things at play here.

Firstly getting a referendum up without bi-partisan support was always going to be a challenge, as far as I'm aware it's not happened.

Secondly in terms of the debate the government is somewhat at a disadvantage in as much as they really do have to work with the reality of how the constitution works, and how that interacts with parliament, the opposition suffer from no such limitation, they can simply make shit up because there is no real restriction there, see the whole detail, and this or that will happen arguments

And lastly Albo isn't the kind of speaker who can carry something like this on his back, he just doesn't have that in him, which is a shame for mine because if he did have that kind of persona, it'd still be a chance to carry.

 

[Gary Gutful]

All I know is ever since Albo come in a pie went from $4 to $7.50. I mean what's with that? And I need two pies to fill me up. I burn a lot of energy Ram.

*Cream

 

[Gronk]

And lastly Albo isn't the kind of speaker who can carry something like this on his back, he just doesn't have that in him, which is a shame for mine because if he did have that kind of persona, it'd still be a chance to carry.

Agree, he’s no Obama.

The Yes campaign right now are the Eels trying not to get penalised in the ruck and the NO are Storm, wrestling, holding down and stripping the ball whenever they can.

YES will need to rise above all this and bring the true message home if they are going to gain the majority of the votes in the majority of the states*.

* ironic that NT don’t matter / can’t matter

 

[Bandwagon]

Agree, he’s no Obama.

The Yes campaign right now are the Eels trying not to get penalised in the ruck and the NO are Storm, wrestling, holding down and stripping the ball whenever they can.

YES will need to rise above all this and bring the true message home if they are going to gain the majority of the votes in the majority of the states*.

* ironic that NT don’t matter / can’t matter

I think it'll begin to close up in the polling, but right now even Victoria is polling a no.

If that remains the case it won't pass in any state.

 

[Gronk]

Aand the scare campaign by Murdoch, Nine goes on.

https://x.com/newscomauhq/status/1701083149961421046?s=61&t=q0pzBgfp65RbZZanL3hgyw

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What does a Native Title Claim REALLY mean ?

It doesn’t impact private land. If a claim is granted by your local council or on crown land , it gives the claimee the right to meet, to gather, to hunt, perform ceremony etc. There are no slippery slope arguments. These Native Title claims have NOTHING to do with the referendum, with many of these claims like bushland around the corner from you being the subject of claim and you would not even know.

Native Title Claims are like the indigenous population being brought to the negotiation table and told that 99% of the land is ours. Local aboriginal groups have pulled out the map, pointed to a green bit and asked politely of they have have that back, cos it doesn’t look like you’re using it. Nah, you can’t have that one. How about this one ? Tennis courts. This one ? Caravan Park. This scrappy piece of scrub ? Oh yeah you can have that, but you can’t do anything with it and you need to follow the whiteman rules. Sign here.

Native title, rights and interests | PBC

nativetitle.org.au

What are native title rights?​

Native title is often described as a ‘bundle of rights’ in land, meaning a collection of rights. These rights may include the right to camp, hunt, use water, hold meetings, perform ceremony and protect cultural sites. It is important to note that native title only recognises the right to perform certain activities which come from traditional laws and customs but does not recognise those traditional laws and customs themselves. The types of rights that are recognised in a native title determination depends on the particular laws and customs of the native title claim group, and what they can prove.

Native title is inalienable, meaning it cannot be sold or transferred freely, and can only be surrendered to the Crown (or extinguished). However, there are some options for non-extinguishing leasing of native title lands.

Where can native title be claimed?​

Native title may be claimed in areas where it has not been extinguished, such as

• vacant (or unallocated) Crown land
• parks and public reserves
• beaches
• some leases (such as non-exclusive pastoral leases)
• land held by government agencies
• some land held for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities and
• oceans, seas, reefs, lakes, rivers, creeks and other waters that are not privately owned.

Native title rights cannot be claimed in relation to minerals, gas or petroleum under Australian law. Native title in tidal and sea areas can only be of a non-exclusive nature, as exclusive native title is considered inconsistent with other common law rights regarding marine access and navigation.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Aand the scare campaign by Murdoch, Nine goes on.

https://x.com/newscomauhq/status/1701083149961421046?s=61&t=q0pzBgfp65RbZZanL3hgyw

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================

What does a Native Title Claim REALLY mean ?

It doesn’t impact private land. If a claim is granted by your local council or on crown land , it gives the claimee the right to meet, to gather, to hunt, perform ceremony etc. There are no slippery slope arguments. These Native Title claims have NOTHING to do with the referendum, with many of these claims like bushland around the corner from you being the subject of claim and you would not even know.

Native Title Claims are like the indigenous population being brought to the negotiation table and told that 99% of the land is ours. Local aboriginal groups have pulled out the map, pointed to a green bit and asked politely of they have have that back, cos it doesn’t look like you’re using it. Nah, you can’t have that one. How about this one ? Tennis courts. This one ? Caravan Park. This scrappy piece of scrub ? Oh yeah you can have that, but you can’t do anything with it and you need to follow the whiteman rules. Sign here.

Native title, rights and interests | PBC

nativetitle.org.au

What are native title rights?​

Native title is often described as a ‘bundle of rights’ in land, meaning a collection of rights. These rights may include the right to camp, hunt, use water, hold meetings, perform ceremony and protect cultural sites. It is important to note that native title only recognises the right to perform certain activities which come from traditional laws and customs but does not recognise those traditional laws and customs themselves. The types of rights that are recognised in a native title determination depends on the particular laws and customs of the native title claim group, and what they can prove.

Native title is inalienable, meaning it cannot be sold or transferred freely, and can only be surrendered to the Crown (or extinguished). However, there are some options for non-extinguishing leasing of native title lands.

Where can native title be claimed?​

Native title may be claimed in areas where it has not been extinguished, such as

• vacant (or unallocated) Crown land
• parks and public reserves
• beaches
• some leases (such as non-exclusive pastoral leases)
• land held by government agencies
• some land held for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities and
• oceans, seas, reefs, lakes, rivers, creeks and other waters that are not privately owned.

Native title rights cannot be claimed in relation to minerals, gas or petroleum under Australian law. Native title in tidal and sea areas can only be of a non-exclusive nature, as exclusive native title is considered inconsistent with other common law rights regarding marine access and navigation.

Agree. I have dealt with native title over the years. In many cases it's easier if a determination has been made (you know who you need to engage) and that determination is irrelevant when it comes to private land.

 

[Bandwagon]

Agree. I have dealt with native title over the years. In many cases it's easier if a determination has been made (you know who you need to engage) and that determination is irrelevant when it comes to private land.

Yeah, but on the other hand where does it stop with these uppity blackfellas?

If they ever discover the Magna Carta, we're all f**ked.

 

[Twizzle]

Hard to believe that anyone can see a proper link between the native title and the Voice.

It won't stop Dutton and Co and the Murdoch media from making the connection though and thus far they seem to be working.

 

[bazza]

Aand the scare campaign by Murdoch, Nine goes on.

https://x.com/newscomauhq/status/1701083149961421046?s=61&t=q0pzBgfp65RbZZanL3hgyw

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================

What does a Native Title Claim REALLY mean ?

It doesn’t impact private land. If a claim is granted by your local council or on crown land , it gives the claimee the right to meet, to gather, to hunt, perform ceremony etc. There are no slippery slope arguments. These Native Title claims have NOTHING to do with the referendum, with many of these claims like bushland around the corner from you being the subject of claim and you would not even know.

Native Title Claims are like the indigenous population being brought to the negotiation table and told that 99% of the land is ours. Local aboriginal groups have pulled out the map, pointed to a green bit and asked politely of they have have that back, cos it doesn’t look like you’re using it. Nah, you can’t have that one. How about this one ? Tennis courts. This one ? Caravan Park. This scrappy piece of scrub ? Oh yeah you can have that, but you can’t do anything with it and you need to follow the whiteman rules. Sign here.

Native title, rights and interests | PBC

nativetitle.org.au

What are native title rights?​

Native title is often described as a ‘bundle of rights’ in land, meaning a collection of rights. These rights may include the right to camp, hunt, use water, hold meetings, perform ceremony and protect cultural sites. It is important to note that native title only recognises the right to perform certain activities which come from traditional laws and customs but does not recognise those traditional laws and customs themselves. The types of rights that are recognised in a native title determination depends on the particular laws and customs of the native title claim group, and what they can prove.

Native title is inalienable, meaning it cannot be sold or transferred freely, and can only be surrendered to the Crown (or extinguished). However, there are some options for non-extinguishing leasing of native title lands.

Where can native title be claimed?​

Native title may be claimed in areas where it has not been extinguished, such as

• vacant (or unallocated) Crown land
• parks and public reserves
• beaches
• some leases (such as non-exclusive pastoral leases)
• land held by government agencies
• some land held for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities and
• oceans, seas, reefs, lakes, rivers, creeks and other waters that are not privately owned.

Native title rights cannot be claimed in relation to minerals, gas or petroleum under Australian law. Native title in tidal and sea areas can only be of a non-exclusive nature, as exclusive native title is considered inconsistent with other common law rights regarding marine access and navigation.

well it would certainly suck to be forced of the land that you have lived on all your life with no compensation or recourse

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Agree. I have dealt with native title over the years. In many cases it's easier if a determination has been made (you know who you need to engage) and that determination is irrelevant when it comes to private land.

enough with the facts you merkins!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gary Gutful]

enough with the facts you merkins!!!!!!!!!

Sorry - I mean it’s the beginning of the end and it’s just the start of the evil powers that be and their relentless campaign to f**k us in the arse with a pitchfork!!!

 

[TheRam]

Lol. Lame and getting desperate if that is the case. Albanese has failed his own belief sadly.
I'm really disappointed in the way he has handled this. He has been pathetic selling the case for the Voice, and sadly so as it seems to be doomed to fail.
A massive opportunity for change for the better for our history yet organised and run by a bunch of clowns.
Such a wasted opportunity to finally unite the nation.
As for Dutton, he can gagf.

Unite the country???

What the most stable and least violent on cultural issues, for a multicultural country on earth?

You people are always looking for issues(phantoms) that don't exist to cause derision and divisiveness where there isn't any.

The more that clown in Government and his cronies revealed of the VOTE, the more people saw/see that it is a Trojan horse of treason and misery for all Australians(including aboriginals) except the less than 1%.

You can't polish a turd buddy. People just needed to take a whiff.

 

[bazza]

Unite the country???

What the most stable and least violent on cultural issues, for a multicultural country on earth?

You people are always looking for issues(phantoms) that don't exist to cause derision and divisiveness where there isn't any.

The more that clown in Government and his cronies revealed of the VOTE, the more people saw/see that it is a Trojan horse of treason and misery for all Australians(including aboriginals) except the less than 1%.

You can't polish a turd buddy. People just needed to take a whiff.

why do you hate Australians so much?

 

[Twizzle]

The more that clown in Government and his cronies revealed of the VOTE, the more people saw/see that it is a Trojan horse of treason and misery for all Australians(including aboriginals) except the less than 1%.

seriously, where do you get these ideas from ?

 

[TheRam]

All I know is ever since Albo come in a pie went from $4 to $7.50. I mean what's with that? And I need two pies to fill me up. I burn a lot of energy Ram.

Mate things are only going to get much worse from here.

Shutting down our capacity to produce cheap and easy base load energy with coal and gas is going to ruin our nation quick smart. Everything hangs off that.

By the time the people finally wake up enough and demand that we go back to what Australia has in abundance, it will take 10+ years to get back to what we had if ever, because these rats will obfuscate and stall forever until the people that knew how good it used to be will be either to old or dead to matter and the next generation will not know any better and think that power shortages and scarcity and high prices are normal for a over populated world that's running out of time and Co2 is poison.

They have won. It's just a matter of how quick they can drop the hammer without the ignorant beasts waking up and doing something about it.

 

[Twizzle]

Mate things are only going to get much worse from here.

you mean pies are gonna go up even more ?

 

[TheRam]

why do you hate Australians so much?

Yes why do you hate Australians so so much?

Can't you stand seeing people happy? Leave people alone and you will find people will like you more.

Get out of peoples lives and live your own best life mate. It's not that hard. Just give it a good hot crack. You may even find that you like yourself a little.