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crocodile

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Look I'm way under the weather to sit down and write in any major detail what the future will exactly look like and btw, things hardly ever go exactly how we think. But what tends to happen is a trajectory in a certain direction and manner.

And the trajectory they, the old Fabien's, new Technocrats are pushing us in is a type of Electronic Gulag, where initially you will not be forced to do anything, BUT if you want to travel, eat meat, access the net, access your digital tokens(money before they expire or even given to you). have electricity(power), see a doctor, virtually anything that we do in our society today, you will need to have a compulsory digital ID and a Social Credit score that you maintain and constantly shows that you are more of a producer then a receiver(burden) on society. In other words, because of the state of emergency that the world(either by WHO) and or the climate emergency is under(due to Co2) you will need to justify your existence.

Remember there will be 100's of millions unemployed by the 30's, and they will be needing some sort of UBI to live, but of course this will come with strings. The fuse has already been lit for the shift in employment practices with covid making everyone that could work from home do so. So now as jobs disappear, what is happening in Europe already is the buildings that used to be office towers are being sold off and turned into apartments as an example. Corporations are divesting out of labor as much as possible and the trend will only get bigger. Factories can already do most previous man held jobs with automation but up to now most have resisted that upgrade, but now they are going for it. Give them another 10 years or so and lets see how many factory workers there will be around the world compared to now.

The next wave of workers will need to specialize in things that can't yet be done from home or by machines. So there will only be so many of those types of jobs. How many plumbers, electricians, or even doctors or lawyers does a society need, before there are to many to actually make a living out of it? Where will all the people get their income from? This is where UBI will have to kick in and people will comply to whatever the Authoritarians ask of them to get it. Besides the next generation are already trained well to except anything digital as trendy and cool and sooooo convenient and old dumb arse granddaddy is so past it and he wouldn't know his arse from a good old system dump if he stepped in one. They will gladly comply to a digital social credit score and medical system to receive their free tokens and sit on their arse eating cheerio's and drinking coolers while d*cking each others virtual freckles on their tiny mobile computer and liking each other to death.

Then after a decade of this or so, then the real culling will begin and the masses by that stage living in their 200 odd foot Co2 compliant cell(flats) will be so isolated, fearful of losing whatever miniscule 'privileges' they still have left and feeling abused, and weakened(like a battered house wife that sees no escape) they won't even resist or many won't even know or believe it is happening. But that future prediction part is for another day.

This is where we are heading my friend. But by 2030 though, it will depend if Trump gets in next year. If he does he will not stop it, but slow it down for the time he is in. He will not clean out the rats and arrest all the greedy evil players that have overtaken the levers of power of the US at both political and Corporate level. If that is what he was truly about he would have done that the first time around, but instead he added to the swap by appointing old fat rats like Pence, Pompeo and Bolton as examples and appointing even more filth to the supreme court in Kavanaugh, a Bush stooge.

But like I have said before, Trump is in it for his own ego and he doesn't hate America. So he will just run the place like an old style Republican and start up oil and gas again and if there is an election and we haven't gone into a full on hot war with Russia by then, he will stop it immediately. He will sign a lot of Executive orders like he did last time that will start the gears moving for commerce again in the right direction. But as was the case as last time, he won't arrest anyone of significance or pass any major new laws or agreements through the house or senate that will be long lasting.

So as soon as he is gone again, the next wanker will do a O'Biden and reverse all the executive orders immediately and start his or her own new Biden Economics program. Boy I am so glad that the Biden team of evil idiots decided to call it Biden Economics, because there is no confusion or mystery as to what has cause all this misery, unemployment, homelessness and poverty.

Anyway, the next greedy evil President will start the ball rolling again from 2029 and so it may take another term for the real shit to start to come at us again, so 2034+ is where its starts to get real roasty toasty again.

Shoot, and I wasn't going to write much. But I do feel like crap. Couldn't sleep last night and I have a head so congested I'm so scared to sneeze. It could explode.

If this isn't enough detail for you as in specifics, I am way to sick to go searching for specific statements and links that these greedy evil f**kers keep telling us all what they intend to do. So sorry it that is what you wanted.

P.S. You are the carbon emergency. They want to get rid of you. Co2 is you. You do get that right? Everything they say and do is to reduce what you do. The best way to do that is to...what?

Do you get it?
Is that the non-detailed version.
 

Gronk

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Food for thought I suppose. Interesting take.

You do spend your time in dark places. That merkin has been banned across all platorms previously for his white supremacy, misogynistic and other random unpopular views, mostly favoured by lonely incels.

IIRC most famously he went after Taylor Swift about her age and her eggs on twitter in an attempt to get famous, got banned and I guess it worked.

As for this video, arrogant caveman views that no doubt the Jordan Peterson crowd would gleefully lap up as it would give their shit attitude towards women a little pat on the back.
 

TheRam

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You do spend your time in dark places. That merkin has been banned across all platorms previously for his white supremacy, misogynistic and other random unpopular views, mostly favoured by lonely incels.

IIRC most famously he went after Taylor Swift about her age and her eggs on twitter in an attempt to get famous, got banned and I guess it worked.

As for this video, arrogant caveman views that no doubt the Jordan Peterson crowd would gleefully lap up as it would give their shit attitude towards women a little pat on the back.

Of course he was. All alternate thinkers get banned, because that's the free and democratic way.

Fist pump to the sky champion. You're winning.

Free speech isn't free if it is only for the people you agree with. Idiot!

And you have that Phantom wannabe who agrees with you. Says a lot really. Comrades of a feather pump together.
 

Gronk

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Of course he was. All alternate thinkers get banned, because that's the free and democratic way.

Fist pump to the sky champion. You're winning.

Free speech isn't free if it is only for the people you agree with. Idiot!

And you have that Phantom wannabe who agrees with you. Says a lot really. Comrades of a feather pump together.
Idiot huh.

Your mate was banned from various private networks who elected that they did not want people like him on their platforms. Indeed one of those platforms changed hands (x) and the new owner now let’s anyone on.

Even your ^^^^ mate has his account reactivated.

 

TheRam

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Of course he was. All alternate thinkers get banned, because that's the free and democratic way.

Fist pump to the sky champion. You're winning.

Free speech isn't free if it is only for the people you agree with. Idiot!

And you have that Phantom wannabe who agrees with you. Says a lot really. Comrades of a feather pump together.
Lol, no fist pumps to any sky gods here...

Are you the one that also promotes that Alex Jones and his views here? He seems a classy guy too.

 
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This Voice referendum has me a little confused. I agree in principal that the Aboriginal community of this country should have a greater voice than the one afforded to them at present.
I've been to a fair few places in this country that have a much larger per capita Aboriginal population than the area I live in (Western Sydney) and undoubtedly the wider Sydney Basin as a whole.
Without going into a long specific spiel about it, I am well aware of some of the challenges and the divide between their mob and everybody else's mob and do have much sympathy for their cause. I call it a "cause" because it was and is undoubtedly caused by intolerant white men who colonised and settled this country who basically paid very little heed to them, other than to wonder how to rid themselves of this perceived nuisance. A sentiment that I find abhorrent.
So as you see, both ideally and fundamentally I am pretty much on board with their cause to be treated equally and fairly by the rest of Australia though my definition of Australia may vary to yours. To clarify, what Pou was on about white guilt and there IS going to be a lot less of it. It's decreasing exponentially as I type.
Here is the sticking point for me and if someone can point me in the right direction to the information (if it exists) I'd really appreciate it as I do not want to make an uninformed decision on a topic that has needed addressing for a long time now.
Does anyone know what the actual changes to our constitution will be? I'm talking verbatim here. Is the wording to any amendments to our constitution set in stone somewhere that I can view?
I ask this because I am aware that I have or used to have certain rights under this constitution and by nature I am occasionally suspicious and sometimes have trust issues with government and "authority".
I really would love to vote YES for this Voice referendum but without knowing at least the wording (actual, not proposed) changes to the constitution, then it will have to be a No from me.
If anyone can provide a link to that info I would appreciate. I have looked but as so many other things are in this world these days, If it does exist, It's somehow not available to me.
 
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Here is the sticking point for me and if someone can point me in the right direction to the information (if it exists) I'd really appreciate it as I do not want to make an uninformed decision on a topic that has needed addressing for a long time now.
Does anyone know what the actual changes to our constitution will be? I'm talking verbatim here. Is the wording to any amendments to our constitution set in stone somewhere that I can view?
Yes there is. It's 96 words, in a Constitution that is very high-level in the way it describes everything else (health, education etc). Here is the proposed constitutional change (addition) that the referendum is asking us to vote on accepting:

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples
129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

  1. There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
  2. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
  3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.
 
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I have already found this information. If you had read and understood my post you would know that I'm looking for more than "proposed" changes and so much more than the extremely vague and highly ambiguous wording of the 3rd point of that proposition.
 

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