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More just empty placards, he’s been in the job for over a year so he can’t do any listen to anyone unless the voice gets up??
To be fair over and above all else, it's The Voice that is what's been asked for.
More just empty placards, he’s been in the job for over a year so he can’t do any listen to anyone unless the voice gets up??
By leaving the status quo as is.How was it avoidable ?
Yep, and it’s Albo’s and the yes people’s job to sell it and I reckon they have done a pretty poor job of it. Which is main reason it will be voted down.To be fair over and above all else, it's The Voice that is what's been asked for.
Sounds like you should just f**k back off elsewhere then, instead of continuing to Claytons post?And here we are, both of us, arguing about nothing. Your words. To me it's something. You'll never know what that is because I won't tell you.
Well there's two ways of looking at it. The yes campaign have done poor job of convincing people that it's the right thing to do OR the NO campaign have done a great job in convincing people that there's more to it and whatever that is, it's bad news.Yep, and it’s Albo’s and the yes people’s job to sell it and I reckon they have done a pretty poor job of it. Which is main reason it will be voted down.
If you are indigenous you can get AbStudy instead of AusStudy or Youth Allowance - though the base rates are the same ($562.80/fortnight for single no children). It seems like AbStudy covers both AusStudy (over 25) and Youth Allowance (under 25)I also no nothing about benefits they get. I just hear lots of people whinge about it.
It wasn't Albo's idea - it was requested in 2017.Yep, and it’s Albo’s and the yes people’s job to sell it and I reckon they have done a pretty poor job of it. Which is main reason it will be voted down.
Yep, and it’s Albo’s and the yes people’s job to sell it and I reckon they have done a pretty poor job of it. Which is main reason it will be voted down.
That in itself isn’t a reason not to try and create a situation where there is better indigenous representation. Hard to do though when it is such a contested space.And isn’t that the most important problem in all of this?? Having a voice means zero if the money and help continues to not go when it’s intended or needed. Those people out there in the remote communities that have no access to basic amenities what really changed for them?? As long as some wealthy white people feel a little a better about themselves that’s the main thing I suppose.
Where the government ( And Albo in particular ) could be doing much better is in going after the no case and it's credibility, they seem to have deliberately avoided that, and it isn't working.
for some reason he doesn't seem to have that in his game, he was ordinary in opposition, unlike the coalition who just oppose everything on factional grounds
not saying labour have never done this, just that its not part of Albo's game and he doesn't seem to be good at it
Fancy you telling someone to f**k off from the forum because you perceive their posts to be empty or without depth...Sounds like you should just f**k back off elsewhere then, instead of continuing to Claytons post?
Greedy evil is turning a blind eye to the dire situation that many indigenous folk find themselves in.To true, but it will only be much worse.
Greedy evil doesn't just say, OK I have had enough, I will just go away now.
Greedy evil always wants more and jealously guards its ill gotten gains to the point of knowing it needs to silence and or kill ALL its opposition if it wants to remain in power and unchallenged.
Guess what, we are all greedy evils opposition.
Greedy evil never sleeps.
Better chance of us winning the next 3 premierships back to back.this thing is looking like it's a big chance of getting up
I’ll lock in a, yes vote getting up thanks Eddie.Better chance of us winning the next 3 premierships back to back.
That in itself isn’t a reason not to try and create a situation where there is better indigenous representation. Hard to do though when it is such a contested space.
My personal view is that we have come a long way in the last 20 years in recognising the issue, but we haven’t really improved anything as illustrated by the closing the gap reports which show little improvement in some areas and a decline in others.
I will be voting yes because I know how parliament works and don’t see it as something scary. But I’ll be following closely because the implementation will be critical if we are to genuinely make a change.
…and we have to make a change because the situation for many indigenous folk is pretty f**ken horrible.
you may know more, but I believe that Labor have provided some details on how the Voice would be selected and the things it would focus on initiallyFrom what you had said, you are happy to vote "yes" without their being clear strategy around the implementation? Should this not be a critical component that is disclosed/created/planned prior to any referendum in general?
I'm asking why both are important to you, the rest of the post was just a bit of context.Wasn't this the same premise for Same Sex Marriage ?