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[Suitman]

Settle petal.

Just pointing out her ancestry is not what americans call "black",

And therein lies the problem.

 

[Bandwagon]

Its anyone's guess really

Well no, it's not

It's well known, and is in the public domain.

Just pointing out her ancestry is not what americans call "black", ie african-american.

So you're saying that Americans would not say a black Jamaican is black?

That's about the dumbest thing I've read today.

 

[JokerEel]

Well no, it's not

It's well known, and is in the public domain.



So you're saying that Americans would not say a black Jamaican is black?

That's about the dumbest thing I've read today.

I dunno I've seen some dumber things on the Internet..

If she wants to call her self a Trans to get those votes go for it..

The sheeple will vote for who they have been told to.

 

[hindy111]

Well no, it's not

It's well known, and is in the public domain.



So you're saying that Americans would not say a black Jamaican is black?

That's about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Her ancestors could of been promiscuous/ shagged about

 

[Gronk]

Yeah, fair call ... she is mixed heritage. May have some african heritage in there too.

It’s ok, I get it.

 

[JokerEel]

It’s ok, I get it.

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Are you now racist

 

[Gronk]

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Video footage shows an anti-immigration protester aggressively questioning Arizona state Rep. Eric Descheenie about his citizenship status.

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[strider]

Well no, it's not

It's well known, and is in the public domain.



So you're saying that Americans would not say a black Jamaican is black?

That's about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Well no the dumbest thing was saying trump was dumb for calling her a native american

 

[strider]

It’s ok, I get it.

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If you wanna insult me you will have to use words, cos as you know i cant see images

 

[strider]

And therein lies the problem.

are you upset that i said black? .... or that i am commenting on what i see happens in america?

 

[the phantom menace]

Well Joe Rogan's called it...

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/kamala-harris-or-donald-trump-joe-rogan-makes-shock-election-prediction/news-story/b1c80e7378cf23ae37a29ec0557d28e6

 

[Gronk]

If you wanna insult me you will have to use words, cos as you know i cant see images

Sorry, I didn’t know that you were vision impaired. I really didn’t.

 

[Bandwagon]

Her ancestors could of been promiscuous/ shagged about

Sure, so could have yours. Does it change how you think about where you are from?

Well no the dumbest thing was saying trump was dumb for calling her a native american

Yeah that is pretty dumb, but the difference is that's an innocent mistake, your comment was deliberate. Being deliberately dumb always trumps just being mistaken

 

[strider]

Sure, so could have yours. Does it change how you think about where you are from?



Yeah that is pretty dumb, but the difference is that's an innocent mistake, your comment was deliberate. Being deliberately dumb always trumps just being mistaken

Well my comment was primarily about her being raised by her indian mum ..... but yeah i admitted i likely underplayed her potential african heritage through subsequent generations in jamacia

 

[strider]

Sorry, I didn’t know that you were vision impaired. I really didn’t.

You do realise im talking about the whole logged in/ad blocker restrictions of this site, yeah? .... you are a mod. You see me flagged as an evil ad blocker

 

[Twizzle]

You do realise im talking about the whole logged in/ad blocker restrictions of this site, yeah? .... you are a mod. You see me flagged as an evil ad blocker

no he cant, only admin can see who uses them

 

[Bandwagon]

Well my comment was primarily about her being raised by her indian mum

Nah mate, your comment was about parroting the talking point that she's not a real black person.

.. but yeah i admitted i likely underplayed her potential african heritage through subsequent generations in jamacia

Yes you conceded the point when you worked out how f**king dumb your little made up factoid looked in the face of reality. And your concession to her likely African heritage was still "underplayed" "May have some african heritage in there too" isn't exactly a strong admission is it?

But look it's ok mate, you made up something really f**king dumb, to try and defend the dumb argument you were making, It happens

At least you have enough smarts to walk away from it.

 

[strider]

Nah mate, your comment was about parroting the talking point that she's not a real black person.



Yes you conceded the point when you worked out how f**king dumb your little made up factoid looked in the face of reality. And your concession to her likely African heritage was still "underplayed" "May have some african heritage in there too" isn't exactly a strong admission is it?

But look it's ok mate, you made up something really f**king dumb, to try and defend the dumb argument you were making, It happens

At least you have enough smarts to walk away from it.

Cool ... Bandy is the biggest dick slinging alpha male of the forum again ... normal transition has been resumed... yay

My point from my original post is she is from indian heritage with fathers side through jamaica from an irish dude involved in slavery which isnt very nice in the grand scheme of things - and that hasnt changed. I dont think thats typical black african american which they now portray her as in the interests of looking appealing for votes.

 

[Bandwagon]

Bandy is the biggest dick slinging alpha male of the forum again

Go me!

 

[Bandwagon]

My point from my original post is she is from indian heritage with fathers side through jamaica from an irish dude involved in slavery which isnt very nice in the grand scheme of things

Stop a minute here mate and think. This comes from the following claim in an article by her father.

My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town)

KAMALA HARRIS’ JAMAICAN HERITAGE - UPDATED - 14.01.2019 - Jamaica Global Online

As the presidential buzz continues to grow around the possible candidacy of California Senator Kamala Harris, interest is also growing around her little-known Jamaican heritage.

www.jamaicaglobalonline.com

Now I think it fair enough to take him at his word,so all good there. But, here's also where you have to engage your brain and think about how this might come to be........

As explained by the Atlantic (here), “the overwhelming majority of African Americans have white male ancestors, largely because of white male slave owners who raped Black female slaves.”
This dark historical fact undermines the point this claim tries to make - that having a white slave-owner in her ancestry makes Harris or any African American less Black.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-kamalaharris-cop-idUSKBN25L1L8/

So no it's "not very nice" is it, I mean slavery and the trappings that go along with it were never very nice.

I dont think thats typical black african american......

Yeah, well again that's based on no evidence, it's just you accepting a GOP talking point that Harris isn't a "real black person". But as per above that makes for a lot of African Americans that aren't "real black people" by your reckoning. Or maybe you're just plain wrong?

....which they now portray her as in the interests of looking appealing for votes.

What does a "typical black African American" look like mate? What makes them typical and not Harris, what separates their shared histories? What is it that makes for her to be "portrayed as African American" but not actually be African American?