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Gronk

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Stop a minute here mate and think. This comes from the following claim in an article by her father.

My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town)


Now I think it fair enough to take him at his word,so all good there. But, here's also where you have to engage your brain and think about how this might come to be........

As explained by the Atlantic (here), “the overwhelming majority of African Americans have white male ancestors, largely because of white male slave owners who raped Black female slaves.”
This dark historical fact undermines the point this claim tries to make - that having a white slave-owner in her ancestry makes Harris or any African American less Black.



So no it's "not very nice" is it, I mean slavery and the trappings that go along with it were never very nice.


Yeah, well again that's based on no evidence, it's just you accepting a GOP talking point that Harris isn't a "real black person". But as per above that makes for a lot of African Americans that aren't "real black people" by your reckoning. Or maybe you're just plain wrong?



What does a "typical black African American" look like mate? What makes them typical and not Harris, what separates their shared histories? What is it that makes for her to be "portrayed as African American" but not actually be African American?
Pretty much the same merkinry during the Voice referendum. Arseholes were minimising people's opinions because they "were not black enough".



And it is certainly not unique to Australia.

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It attempts invalidate an individual's identity based on stereotypical notions of race and undermines the diverse nature of racial and cultural identities. It perpetuates harmful stereotypes and can marginalize individuals within their own communities.
 

Bandwagon

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Pretty much the same merkinry during the Voice referendum. Arseholes were minimising people's opinions because they "were not black enough".



And it is certainly not unique to Australia.

LINK



It attempts invalidate an individual's identity based on stereotypical notions of race and undermines the diverse nature of racial and cultural identities. It perpetuates harmful stereotypes and can marginalize individuals within their own communities.

It's just the whole "Obama birther" play again by the GOP.

It's just f**king dumb is what it is. Surely if Harris is so f**king terrible they could attack her on her record, it's not like she hasn't been in politics for f**king decades.
 

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Stop a minute here mate and think. This comes from the following claim in an article by her father.

My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town)


Now I think it fair enough to take him at his word,so all good there. But, here's also where you have to engage your brain and think about how this might come to be........

As explained by the Atlantic (here), “the overwhelming majority of African Americans have white male ancestors, largely because of white male slave owners who raped Black female slaves.”
This dark historical fact undermines the point this claim tries to make - that having a white slave-owner in her ancestry makes Harris or any African American less Black.



So no it's "not very nice" is it, I mean slavery and the trappings that go along with it were never very nice.


Yeah, well again that's based on no evidence, it's just you accepting a GOP talking point that Harris isn't a "real black person". But as per above that makes for a lot of African Americans that aren't "real black people" by your reckoning. Or maybe you're just plain wrong?



What does a "typical black African American" look like mate? What makes them typical and not Harris, what separates their shared histories? What is it that makes for her to be "portrayed as African American" but not actually be African American?
I have no intention of playing the stupid back n forth bullshit you've done in recent times with ImTheMan.
Ive said what ive said. We can disagree. And yeah maybe im flat out wrong.
 

Bandwagon

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I have no intention of playing the stupid back n forth bullshit you've done in recent times with ImTheMan.

Easy fixed that one.

Ive said what ive said. We can disagree.

Of course. If you don't want to discuss your opinions on a discussion forum that's entirely up to you.

And yeah maybe im flat out wrong.

Yeah, maybe look at the evidence. No need to accept mine.
 

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Sure, so could have yours. Does it change how you think about where you are from?



Yeah that is pretty dumb, but the difference is that's an innocent mistake, your comment was deliberate. Being deliberately dumb always trumps just being mistaken

Are you calling me a bastard?
 

JokerEel

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Anyway both Trump and Harris are incompetent dimwitted puppets arguing for either makes you look like a fool
 

Gronk

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^^ So the Washington Post has concluded an investigation into a $10M foreign cash thing.

* Trump announced during his 2016 campaign that he just wrote a $10m cheque to fund the GOP campaign. Because he's a billionaire etc.
* Not long after the CIA got wind of the Egypt dictator instructing his minions to withdraw $10M from some cairo bank vault in US cash, that they apparently hold for whatever reason.
* The CIA tracked the cash (cos that's what the CIA do) and it has circled back to the USA.
* After the 2016 inauguration, the CIA ramped up the investigation and found the money trail. They were not looking to implicate anyone. I could have been arms or drug money. But it wasn't either.
* They recommended that the Attorney General launch an investigation which would at the very least uncover money laundering and at the worst dodgy campaign shit.
* Bill Barr killed the investigation.


 

King-Gutho94

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Anyone seen what's going on in the UK.

I am going there in 3 weeks for a wedding. So I have vested interest.

But it seems some lunatic nutjobs have just taken everything into there own hands and trashing the joint.
 

Twizzle

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But it seems some lunatic nutjobs have just taken everything into there own hands and trashing the joint.

Well according to social media, that about sums it up.

There also seems to be a big push, I assume from paid bots on Twitter, to discourage European countries from taking in any immigrants from Muslim countries.
 

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