OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[JokerEel]

I still don't know what happened. Can you tell me ?

You have already replied twice on the subject... Why is that if you don't know anything?

 

[Gronk]

You have already replied twice on the subject... Why is that if you don't know anything?

FFS

 

[JokerEel]

FFS

I could believe that's how your farts sound.

 

[the phantom menace]

On Duttons head
Up and down back and forth faster faster

It's best if you work it in more of a circular fashion... apparently.

 

[RustedonEel]

Get your meat supplies in while you can/afford.

Meat price set to rise after devastating stock losses

As farmers face months without income, consumers are being warned meat will cost more as the loss of livestock and infrastructure takes its toll.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Gronk]

Well then ...

 

[RustedonEel]

Get your meat supplies in while you can/afford.

Meat price set to rise after devastating stock losses

As farmers face months without income, consumers are being warned meat will cost more as the loss of livestock and infrastructure takes its toll.

www.abc.net.au

My little birds

tell me these floods could be worse than 1974.

 

[RustedonEel]

Well then ...

If there was a conflict, it would be the same thing.

 

[Gronk]

If there was a conflict, it would be the same thing.

I think the inference is that if you were going to spend $363B on defence, it would be better spent on gear that would best defend your country. Since we signed the deal, the US have been cranky that supplying us with Virginia Class subs will disrupt the upscaling of their fleet and they could actually leave us hanging.

So there is a school of thought that we can the deal and order more gear that suits our shores (virginia is actually too big at times).

AUKUS Submarine Revelations Compel a Rethink - Australian Institute of International Affairs

The deterrence advantage of nuclear-powered submarines in a contested Indo-Pacific

Executive summary The deteriorating security environment in the Indo

www.aph.gov.au

 

[the phantom menace]

Elon gives it his all but comes up short of the result.

People may have stopped listening, and his time of influence on the US population might soon be reaching an end.

Elon Musk bet it all on a judicial election in Wisconsin. He just lost

Trump’s billionaire sidekick said the poll would “determine the fate of western civilisation”. It might also alter his image as a rainmaker for American conservatives.

www.smh.com.au

 

[RustedonEel]

I think the inference is that if you were going to spend $363B on defence, it would be better spent on gear that would best defend your country. Since we signed the deal, the US have been cranky that supplying us with Virginia Class subs will disrupt the upscaling of their fleet and they could actually leave us hanging.

So there is a school of thought that we can the deal and order more gear that suits our shores (virginia is actually too big at times).

AUKUS Submarine Revelations Compel a Rethink - Australian Institute of International Affairs

The deterrence advantage of nuclear-powered submarines in a contested Indo-Pacific

Executive summary The deteriorating security environment in the Indo

www.aph.gov.au

I think the biggest issue, besides late delivery etc, we'll have is crewing these vessels. Collins class has a crew of 42 whereas the Virginias have around 135. For the $$$s you'd want to have them in the water 24/7, something we can't even do with the Collins class.

The defense forces currently number around 57,000 (14k air force, 14k navy and 29k army). All three have major issues attracting new recruits.

Imo I'd much prefer a strong deterrent than a strong defense.

 

[Suitman]

I'd rather spend far less setting up military bases along our northern and eastern coasts with the correct military infrastructure to deter or repel an attack. No one is going to attack the west or north west.
Load them with shit loads of Himars or similar long distant defensive (and attacking) missiles capable of repelling and attacking air or sea attacks.
Submarines will do f**k all defending our country. They are $400+ billion worth of defense expenditure down the drain.

 

[Gronk]

Commentary: RFK Jr. reportedly puts anti-vaxxer in charge of studying debunked link between vaccines and autism

The claim of a link between vaccines and autism has been decisively debunked. Why has RFK Jr. put one of its promoters in charge of investigating it?

www.latimes.com

Kennedy Turns to a Discredited Vaccine Skeptic for Autism Study

David Geier has been hired as a senior data analyst at H.H.S. According to several people, he will examine any potential links between vaccines and autism that were debunked long ago.

www.nytimes.com

Mark Geier - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

(Mark) Geier and his son David Geier are frequently cited by proponents of the discredited claimthat vaccines cause autism. Geier's credibility as an expert witness has been questioned in 10 court cases.[5] In 2003, a judge ruled that Geier presented himself as an expert witness in "areas for which he has no training, expertise and experience."[2] In other cases in which Geier has testified, judges have labeled his testimony "intellectually dishonest", "not reliable" and "wholly unqualified".[2] Another judge wrote that Geier "may be clever, but he is not credible."[6]

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

There was time when thalidomide didn't cause birth defects either. Radium was totally safe to have young women painting it on clock and watch faces and hands.
No one who has an Autistic child would ever want to believe that a vax created it because that would make them partly complicit. Best we just keep our heads in the sand.

 

[the phantom menace]

No one who has an Autistic child would ever want to believe that a vax created it because that would make them partly complicit. Best we just keep our heads in the sand.

Oh dear. Which vax specifically "creates" autism? And is there any published peer-reviewed research supporting that conclusion?

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

Oh dear. Which vax specifically "creates" autism? And is there any published peer-reviewed research supporting that conclusion?

Oh dear, please quote the whole post.
I don't know. The point is that from the 2 examples I listed (and there's many more) that there was no published peer reviewed research supporting those conclusions until there actually was, despite the coincidental and circumstantial evidence to the contrary prior to those facts becoming available.
That's how these f**ks operate. They never get fined anything close to the money made from it so who gives a shit?

 

[RustedonEel]

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[RustedonEel]

My little birds

tell me these floods could be worse than 1974.

If you want to read/see firsthand reports of this disaster (rather than city type news reports) and you are on Facebook, try "2025 Outback Floods"

 

[hindy111]

There was time when thalidomide didn't cause birth defects either. Radium was totally safe to have young women painting it on clock and watch faces and hands.
No one who has an Autistic child would ever want to believe that a vax created it because that would make them partly complicit. Best we just keep our heads in the sand.

Id lean towards genetics

 

[hindy111]

Oh dear. Which vax specifically "creates" autism? And is there any published peer-reviewed research supporting that conclusion?

Genetics most likely.