OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Gronk]

Albo is a traitor is what i have seen him called from a few of the fruitloops today about letting Herzog into the country lol.

You mean this ? It's hard to keep up TBH.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I don't want the harbour bridge or parts of the city shut down any more or for tax payers money to be spent on police etc for the same feral self-obsessed protesters. The tax payers have had enough of that mob.

The light rail had to be shut yesterday to accommodate those wankers.

Like honestly how on earth are people are people supposed to get home at peak times if the one half of the CBD is shut down for ferals who could not give a flying toss about this country or city other then turn it into a trash can & war zone.

One of my mate lives at Randwick at 2:30pm he went home from wynyard because he didn't want to get caught through all the shit fight at Town hall that was going to happen later on.

He sent me a message at 2:45pm reckons there was close to 300-400 cops already standing there in advance for the shit to go down.

 

[Gronk]

I don't want the harbour bridge or parts of the city shut down any more or for tax payers money to be spent on police etc for the same feral self-obsessed protesters. The tax payers have had enough of that mob.

You can't pick and choose who can protest, based on whether you agree with them or not. That's not what a democracy is about. If you ban them then you ban everyone.

If you want to live in an authoritarian country then go and try China, Russia North Korea (or maybe even Trump's America).

 

[T-Boon]

People are allowed to march and chant their stupid slogans that is how for the freedom goes, but stay off the road (unless drivers are free to plow through you) and don't block peoples path walking in the other direction and the entry to people's businesses etc.

 

[T-Boon]

You can't pick and choose who can protest, based on whether you agree with them or not. That's not what a democracy is about. If you ban them then you ban everyone.

If you want to live in an authoritarian country then go and try China, Russia North Korea (or maybe even Trump's America).

Yes you can. You can ban them based on them being too disruptive (disproportionate to the feelings of the country) and too repetitive. The Palestine issue shut the bridge down 6 months ago. That is enough for them for 3 years I say.
It isn't just about their rights it is about everybody's rights who are affected by them. We dont live in the wild west.

 

[Avenger]

You can't pick and choose who can protest, based on whether you agree with them or not. That's not what a democracy is about. If you ban them then you ban everyone.

If you want to live in an authoritarian country then go and try China, Russia North Korea (or maybe even Trump's America).

There is a clear and non-negotiable line between peaceful protest and lawless behaviour. Protest is about expression; it is not a licence to attack police, intimidate the public, block emergency services, or openly reject the rule of law.

Once hatred, violence, or deliberate disruption replaces peaceful assembly, it stops being protest and becomes chaos (like yesterday) and no democratic society can function if that’s tolerated.

Better you keep deflecting — it suits you. You’re a pathetic enabler, so far removed from reality that you’ve convinced yourself your delusion is insight.

 

[Gronk]

Yes you can. You can ban them based on them being too disruptive (disproportionate to the feelings of the country) and too repetitive. The Palestine issue shut the bridge down 6 months ago. That is enough for them for 3 years I say.
It isn't just about their rights it is about everybody's rights who are affected by them. We dont live in the wild west.

I think you are applying your biases to the topic.

* 82% of Australian voters feel that the prevention of food, medicine and
water reaching civilians in Gaza is unjustified.
* 67% believe that the Australian Government should do more to support
civilians being able to access food, water and medicine in Gaza

Australians respond strongly to civilian suffering and the scale of death.

New polling reveals most Australians find Israel’s denial of aid to Palestinians in Gaza unjustifiable, think government should do more: aid organisations - Plan International Australia

Australians overwhelmingly (82%) think that Israel’s deliberate blocking of aid into Gaza cannot be justified, according to fresh polling figures, with more than two in three Australians believing the Australian Government should do more to ensure civilians have access to food, water and...

www.plan.org.au

 

[T-Boon]

Some chinese have that respectful protest permanently set up near town square protesting against I think the harvesting of body parts. They are in a prominent area and always there but out of the way and respectful. That is how you do it. If you do it that way then you can be there all day every day.
However if you are a nuisance and are offending against the laws (for example walking in the middle of the road, yelling abuse, disrupting the peace and worse actually inciting stuff by picking a dubious cause) then we obviously cannot tolerate you in the same way as the earlier example and so we need you to require our permission which we will only give once in a blue moon.

 

[T-Boon]

I think you are applying your biases to the topic.

* 82% of Australian voters feel that the prevention of food, medicine and
water reaching civilians in Gaza is unjustified.
* 67% believe that the Australian Government should do more to support
civilians being able to access food, water and medicine in Gaza

Australians respond strongly to civilian suffering and the scale of death.

New polling reveals most Australians find Israel’s denial of aid to Palestinians in Gaza unjustifiable, think government should do more: aid organisations - Plan International Australia

Australians overwhelmingly (82%) think that Israel’s deliberate blocking of aid into Gaza cannot be justified, according to fresh polling figures, with more than two in three Australians believing the Australian Government should do more to ensure civilians have access to food, water and...

www.plan.org.au

Isnt that from way back when the war was going on?
What percentage of Australia ever supported the "from the river to the sea" cause (wiping out Israel) which was largely what the protests were about.
Also did they bother to explain to the 82% that aid can go in through the Egypt / Gaza border?

 

[Gronk]

Isnt that from way back when the war was going on?
What percentage of Australia ever supported the "from the river to the sea" cause (wiping out Israel) which was largely what the protests were about.
Also did they bother to explain to the 82% that aid can go in through the Egypt / Gaza border?

Again, you are applying your biases to the topic. If you don't know why 300,000 people marched, you should find out.

 

[T-Boon]

I heard the action group where I am at in Newcastle they marched every second sunday.
They chanted "from the river to the sea" all the time and they held up signs like "Delist Hamas". There can be no confusion. Some good people joined that cause and they felt a bit grotty and try to deny it.

 

[strider]

You can't pick and choose who can protest, based on whether you agree with them or not. That's not what a democracy is about. If you ban them then you ban everyone.

If you want to live in an authoritarian country then go and try China, Russia North Korea (or maybe even Trump's America).

Why didnt they protest in Hyde Park where they would have let them? ... they weren't stopped from protesting. The Israeli guy was not at Town Hall. Why did they try and do it there when they were told they could do it elsewhere?

Don't get me wrong, i am anti Israel - the f**kwit pollies you support should not have invited this guy (LNP would have too - both are under the thumb).... but these people intentionally caused an incident last night .... i also think some of what i saw from police was awful.

 

[Gronk]

Why didnt they protest in Hyde Park where they would have let them? ... they weren't stopped from protesting. The Israeli guy was not at Town Hall. Why did they try and do it there when they were told they could do it elsewhere?

I don't know. I agree that they were give the opportunity to assemble at Hyde Park and march to Belmore Park, However what is the point of a protest if you can't be seen I guess ?

Anyway they went to court and the court agreed they could assemble at Town Hall Sq.

From what I could see, the protest was orderly UNTIL the police decided to shut it down. Happy to be corrected on that.



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Don't get me wrong, i am anti Israel - the f**kwit pollies you support should not have invited this guy (LNP would have too - both are under the thumb).... but these people intentionally caused an incident last night .... i also think some of what i saw from police was awful.

Agree

 

[hindy111]

I heard the action group where I am at in Newcastle they marched every second sunday.
They chanted "from the river to the sea" all the time and they held up signs like "Delist Hamas". There can be no confusion. Some good people joined that cause and they felt a bit grotty and try to deny it.

Maybe they were Billy Joel fans

 

[strider]

Oh and the bullshit prayer stunt at the protest ... please .... get f**ked .... go pray anywhwre else and you had no problem

Put on bullshit to play the victim

 

[Bandwagon]

Nothin' sweeter than the taste of jack boots.

 

[hindy111]

Oh and the bullshit prayer stunt at the protest ... please .... get f**ked .... go pray anywhwre else and you had no problem

Put on bullshit to play the victim

It's good to have you back posting. Ive always respected your intelligence.

 

[Suitman]

I find it quite ironic that there is so much outrage here today about a laughably violent protest in Sydney where a dozen or so people are arrested, or that the same protesters may have walked across a bridge or god forbid, closed a tram line, yet these same people have hardly said boo or condemned the deaths of more than 60 000 innocent civilians in Gaza in what is clearly an act of genocide.
I suppose the latter is ok because Isreal are supposedly the real victims here.

 

[Avenger]

I find it quite ironic that there is so much outrage here today about a laughably violent protest in Sydney where a dozen or so people are arrested, or that the same protesters may have walked across a bridge or god forbid, closed a tram line, yet these same people have hardly said boo or condemned the deaths of more than 60 000 innocent civilians in Gaza in what is clearly an act of genocide.
I suppose the latter is ok because Isreal are supposedly the real victims here.

What would you call the Hamas action that occurred on 7 October 2023? Only 1200 victims, all in a days work?

 

[Suitman]

What would you call the Hamas action that occurred on 7 October 2023? Only 1200 victims, all in a days work?

I would and always have called it an horrific f**king disgusting terrorist attack. Absolutely abhorrent. The likes I would never want to see ever again. That was terrorism of the highest order.
However, yet again, you are another who does not or will not comment on the atrocities of the retaliation by Israel and the 60 000+ genocide of innocent civilians.

What would you call that?