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Of course they do - that's why people migrate to "better" countries, never forgetting family they have to leave behind - ageing parents, even wives and kids - in the "worse" countries.

The thing simpletons like Hanson, Taylor and their followers don't get (or admit) is that under capitalism our Australian economy must "keep growing" - and to do that we need the population to keep growing, at a higher rate than people here are willing to pump out babies in these modern days.
 
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And also our carbon footprint living in Australia scores a 7.6
Thats very high. And if compared to sub continent where they sit around 1.3
In other words if bring 200,000 people from sub continent then damage to environment is similar to 1.2million increase.
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Maybe we should look at reducing our carbon emissions and footprint here, instead of looking for excuses elsewhere not to - just a thought...
 

JokerEel

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Of course they do - that's why people migrate to "better" countries, never forgetting family they have to leave behind - ageing parents, even wives and kids - in the "worse" countries.

The thing simpletons like Hanson, Taylor and their followers don't get (or admit) is that under capitalism our Australian economy must "keep growing" - and to do that we need the population to keep growing, at a higher rate than people here are willing to pump out babies in these modern days.


Everyone understands that's how to keep the government making money..

But dopes forget they we dont have governments that know how to allow for a bigger population.
 
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You want to reduce carbon footprints?Then we must reduce the worlds population not increase it.
Trouble is that we (Australia) doesn't (and can't) really influence the rest of the world's population rates. It's just an excuse not to take action about things we can influence to reduce carbon footprint.
Increasing it is just a pyramid scheme to fuel capitalism and keep the rich getting richer whilst destroying the planet.
Agree with you there, population growth is a fundamental ingredient for the capialist system and our economy.
Immigration isn't really about giving people a better life.
It's about the people migrating getting a better life, and the country they move to also benefiting from the growth. People migrate to "better" countries, and it's understand they want to share those benefits (which they aren't used to, so don't selfishly "need" all of) with family who remain in the "Not as good" countries.
 
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Everyone understands that's how to keep the government making money..
Good
But dopes forget they we dont have governments that know how to allow for a bigger population.
What do you actually mean there, other than a simplistic slogan?

What specifics should a government know about operating in these capitalist economies where (everyone understands) population growth keeps government making money.
 
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Um... I'm not anti-immigration though.

Fail The Simpsons GIF
 

JokerEel

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Good

What do you actually mean there, other than a simplistic slogan?

What specifics should a government know about operating in these capitalist economies where (everyone understands) population growth keeps government making money.


Not good when governments dont have a clue how to spend it dopey...

Talk about simplictic... It's not all about money and housing
 

T-Boon

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A capitalist system does not fundamentally require increased population growth, although it often thrives on expansion. While population growth historically stimulated demand and provided labor, modern capitalism can sustain itself through increased productivity, technological innovation, and efficiency rather than just more people.
 

T-Boon

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I'd take more immigrants from China, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos (etc), PNG, Packy Islands (less from NZ), Israel, Switzerland and yes Christian Africa.
 
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Not good when governments dont have a clue how to spend it dopey...
Again, the question was what specifically do you think this government that doesn't "know how to allow for a bigger population" should be doing.
Talk about simplictic... It's not all about money and housing
I know, but you dodged the simple question... You can see why I don't think you have anything beyond simplistic PHON / LNP sloganeering.
 

JokerEel

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Again, the question was what specifically do you think this government that doesn't "know how to allow for a bigger population" should be doing.

I know, but you dodged the simple question... You can see why I don't think you have anything beyond simplistic PHON / LNP sloganeering.

Allow for a bigger population let me think hmmmmmmmmm

Infrastructure - Roads/Rail
Economy
Manufacturing


Hospitals..

How are we going on waiting times again? Seems 2 days is a good time to wait on the floor to die in a hospital...

Resources Water the main thing.. How many more dams are we building to accommodate our population?


It's not all about Housing derp..

You know what we should do keep doing the same stupid thing we have done for the past 30 years that seems to be working great...
 
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