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The truth is labor needs to figure out who it represents the inner city hippies or the working class of Western Sydney
3. Stop using Climate Change as their cornerstone policy because it doesn’t capture the majority thinking as the most important thing in Australia. (Anyone that thinks that man can change anything about the world’s climate seriously needs their head read)
But we accepted a leader who believes in a made up US happy clapper cult.Great to see Australians reject the global warming cult, gender fluidity delusions and socialist jealousy.
Sadly, the people here who have no idea about science (even though they trust it in all areas that don't undermine their preconceived conceptions, arbitrarily invented by conservatives to protect their mates with mining interests) are perfectly correct in regards to climate change as a political issue.
Which is one reason why democracy, despite being the worst political system except for all the others, may end up destroying modern civilisation.
Climate change is a real concern to many people (the main concern in an otherwise pretty comfortable modern existence for many of us). But it has not captured the imagination of swinging, or "soft" voters.
It is, as Abbott said, a moral issue in wealthier areas, but not an issue likely to concern "working suburbs" where fears for the basics of a sound economy reign.
Policy to limit the damage of climate change will obviously be opposed by the wilfully ignorant, but the job of progressives in Australia (not in many parts of the world, where conservatives are well on board as well, and the issue is whether direct intervention or market driven solutions are best) is to properly sell the urgent need for action on climate change.
In that regard, the scoffing here of the rusted on conservatives is perfectly valid. Shorten did a very poor job of selling the need for action on climate change, and Get Up also did a very poor job (except maybe helping unseat Abbot, who was out of step with his electorate anyway).
Shorten was also, I agree, a poor choice as leader. The character assassination from blatant abuse of the tools of the state from Abbott may have helped build upon a distrust of Shorten, but his own hand in killing two PMs already meant he was damaged goods. Though Dutton didn't seem to get the same sort of punishment as Abbott or Shorten in that regard.
When a man who is celebrated for his role in locking up children, who can parade coal through parliament like a toy to mock the most serious threat to our grandchildren imaginable, can win when our economy is stagnant and his party of old white men has spent years attacking itself, is the biggest indictment of the progressive parties imaginable.
Like with Trump, the progressives can't just wait for their opponent to trip over. They have to clearly articulate the threats of inaction on climate change, and the danger of a world driven by xenophobia. And then they have to offer a clear alternative and a vision for a better future than the war and terror we face at the moment.
I stole this General, had to share. funny asThis why Labor lost the election:
What are the threats of inaction on climate change ?
When is the world ending if we don't do something ?
Have we not been doing anything, what are all these turbines and solar panels everywhere ?
I'm happy that the science is settled, why are we still throwing money at organisations to prove it ?
Dude. No one is celebrating locking up children, but plenty are celebrating no more deaths at sea.Sadly, the people here who have no idea about science (even though they trust it in all areas that don't undermine their preconceived conceptions, arbitrarily invented by conservatives to protect their mates with mining interests) are perfectly correct in regards to climate change as a political issue.
Which is one reason why democracy, despite being the worst political system except for all the others, may end up destroying modern civilisation.
Climate change is a real concern to many people (the main concern in an otherwise pretty comfortable modern existence for many of us). But it has not captured the imagination of swinging, or "soft" voters.
It is, as Abbott said, a moral issue in wealthier areas, but not an issue likely to concern "working suburbs" where fears for the basics of a sound economy reign.
Policy to limit the damage of climate change will obviously be opposed by the wilfully ignorant, but the job of progressives in Australia (not in many parts of the world, where conservatives are well on board as well, and the issue is whether direct intervention or market driven solutions are best) is to properly sell the urgent need for action on climate change.
In that regard, the scoffing here of the rusted on conservatives is perfectly valid. Shorten did a very poor job of selling the need for action on climate change, and Get Up also did a very poor job (except maybe helping unseat Abbot, who was out of step with his electorate anyway).
Shorten was also, I agree, a poor choice as leader. The character assassination from blatant abuse of the tools of the state from Abbott may have helped build upon a distrust of Shorten, but his own hand in killing two PMs already meant he was damaged goods. Though Dutton didn't seem to get the same sort of punishment as Abbott or Shorten in that regard.
When a man who is celebrated for his role in locking up children, who can parade coal through parliament like a toy to mock the most serious threat to our grandchildren imaginable, can win when our economy is stagnant and his party of old white men has spent years attacking itself, is the biggest indictment of the progressive parties imaginable.
Like with Trump, the progressives can't just wait for their opponent to trip over. They have to clearly articulate the threats of inaction on climate change, and the danger of a world driven by xenophobia. And then they have to offer a clear alternative and a vision for a better future than the war and terror we face at the moment.
Sadly, the people here who have no idea about science (even though they trust it in all areas that don't undermine their preconceived conceptions, arbitrarily invented by conservatives to protect their mates with mining interests) are perfectly correct in regards to climate change as a political issue.
Which is one reason why democracy, despite being the worst political system except for all the others, may end up destroying modern civilisation.
Climate change is a real concern to many people (the main concern in an otherwise pretty comfortable modern existence for many of us). But it has not captured the imagination of swinging, or "soft" voters.
It is, as Abbott said, a moral issue in wealthier areas, but not an issue likely to concern "working suburbs" where fears for the basics of a sound economy reign.
Policy to limit the damage of climate change will obviously be opposed by the wilfully ignorant, but the job of progressives in Australia (not in many parts of the world, where conservatives are well on board as well, and the issue is whether direct intervention or market driven solutions are best) is to properly sell the urgent need for action on climate change.
In that regard, the scoffing here of the rusted on conservatives is perfectly valid. Shorten did a very poor job of selling the need for action on climate change, and Get Up also did a very poor job (except maybe helping unseat Abbot, who was out of step with his electorate anyway).
Shorten was also, I agree, a poor choice as leader. The character assassination from blatant abuse of the tools of the state from Abbott may have helped build upon a distrust of Shorten, but his own hand in killing two PMs already meant he was damaged goods. Though Dutton didn't seem to get the same sort of punishment as Abbott or Shorten in that regard.
When a man who is celebrated for his role in locking up children, who can parade coal through parliament like a toy to mock the most serious threat to our grandchildren imaginable, can win when our economy is stagnant and his party of old white men has spent years attacking itself, is the biggest indictment of the progressive parties imaginable.
Like with Trump, the progressives can't just wait for their opponent to trip over. They have to clearly articulate the threats of inaction on climate change, and the danger of a world driven by xenophobia. And then they have to offer a clear alternative and a vision for a better future than the war and terror we face at the moment.
Just someone who can catch a ball or eat a bloody sausage Sanga like a normal person.
They’re all socially geniused.
Dude. No one is celebrating locking up children, but plenty are celebrating no more deaths at sea.
Oh I believe in Climate change. The world’s climate has always been changing.
But I’m not foolish to think mankind can change the climate.
It’s actually hilarious that people think the world can change the climate let alone little Australia with it’s contribution to the issue.
Who needs drugs eh?
It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s better than hundreds drowning, which is what was happening only a few short years ago.If you were to take your children with you in a high speed chase from a bank robbery, that would also risk their lives (and yours). Unlike seeking refugee status, that would also unambiguously be illegal and immoral.
What would we say about the politician that locks up those children to act as a deterrent? We don't lock up children to deter the poor decisions of their parents, and we certainly don't do it to score political points. Defending the actions of those politicians is incomprehensible.
It is rather murkier whether those actions have indeed succeeded in fewer deaths at see from reduced people smuggling, without looking at world wide trends.
It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s better than hundreds drowning, which is what was happening only a few short years ago.
If you were to take your children with you in a high speed chase from a bank robbery, that would also risk their lives (and yours). Unlike seeking refugee status, that would also unambiguously be illegal and immoral.
What would we say about the politician that locks up those children to act as a deterrent? We don't lock up children to deter the poor decisions of their parents, and we certainly don't do it to score political points. Defending the actions of those politicians is incomprehensible.
It is rather murkier whether those actions have indeed succeeded in fewer deaths at see from reduced people smuggling, without looking at world wide trends.
The climate has changed many times, yes, over millions of years.
Now it is changing rapidly over decades.
Saying little old us can't change the climate is like saying we can't deforest the world, or turn the world into a nuclear wasteland. Clearly we have the ability to do all these things. If only we had the wisdom not to.
The country has spoken.