OT: Olympics.

[Manu Vatuvei]

Good read thanks.

I have nothing to say to that argument because it is solid and sound.

Sometimes I stir the pot to get people talking. Some of what I say is tongue in cheek too.

I like a good counter argument, it is good mental exercise to take in opposing arguments and see they are valid when well stated.

What I won't do is try to carry an argument on at the risk of crossing the line into trolling.

Personally I like humility, however I also believe strongly that New Zealanders have been spoiled in sports largely connected to expecting the All Blacks to always win and can be very ungracious when they and other NZders lose....just tune into Talk back after the All Blacks lose and listen the vitriol.

Absolutely bro. I’m glad you’ve taken my post in the right spirit because I was worried I’d be seen as ripping into you. Really it was just that I see you making a lot of long and thought out posts and I thought I’d have a crack at deconstructing some of it, to spark conversation more than anything else.

I actually love how by and large we can have robust but non-troll-y discussion here because while we don’t really know each other, we also aren’t total anonymous strangers - so there’s a sort of accountability, if you want to come back and talk to the same people the next day.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

It is a tough one, that’s really all I’m saying. Simply saying ‘she was always considered to be female’ may not be sufficient as an answer if someone is ‘primarily’ a biological male, whatever that means.

Nah I totally agree. But we're discussing and whilst we may end up still confused or not seeing the same point of view, at least we acknowledge it's far from a black and white case, and can have a reasonable debate on it. The inflamed BS on social media is much more damaging than one person participating in a female boxing bout...not that the mouth breathers on there would realise the irony in that

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I actually love how by and large we can have robust but non-trolly discussion here because while we don’t really know each other, we also aren’t total anonymous strangers - so there’s a sort of accountability, if you want to come back and talk to the same people the next day.

Preach. I love this. Funnily enough,my name isn't on here but there is an accountability as someone who wants to continue discussion, but also would never want anyone to feel attacked or inflamed - no matter how anonymous.

Meanwhile, people post under their names on social media and go wild, but seem to give zero f**ks. They seem to love the echo chamber, even though it actively makes them dumb. This site makes me smarter, I've passed off many an opinion I in no way formed myself

 

[Meth]

I will absolutely accept that someone who is born as intersex in a way, may be hard to classify. But Khelif has never, to my understanding, ever pretended to be anything but a woman. This is not Laurel Hubbard.

To be fair, that's half the problem in the case of a person who is genuinely intersex. There are some, like Hubbard, who are taking the piss

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Wrong thread

 

[Penrose Warrior]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/dramatic-backflip-in-boxings-gender-scandal-after-italian-fighter-sends-message/news-story/f6e540e9be4af6540ad3866cb34c3301

Messy as f**k.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

To be fair, that's half the problem in the case of a person who is genuinely intersex. There are some, like Hubbard, who are taking the piss

Yeah, that was my point. It was an absolute disgrace that Hubbard was allowed to compete as a woman and win Commonwealth medals. She (they?) are lucky that didn't happen in 2024 in an Olympics, and beat an America. Social media would have gone nuclear.

I went to school with Gavin Hubbard (not dead naming, that was the person's name) and as a he, Gavin was huge - broke junior men's records, a massive male, testosterone-fuelled frame. That changed somewhat chemically in transition, but not anywhere enough to suggest you can compete against women who develop as women.

 

[Big Marn]

Unlucky for Tom Walsh. Did his groin and unable to participate in the shotput final.

 

[JJ]

Unlucky for Tom Walsh. Did his groin and unable to participate in the shotput final.

Shame, he was a chance for bronze probably. Top guy, great career and handled the disappointment with class and dignity.
Crouser is something else though

 

[Blair]

For those old enough to remember the LA Olympics in '84, our medal haul, and position on the final ladder, still blows me away!:



Forty years ago, sheessh.

 

[JJ]

For those old enough to remember the LA Olympics in '84, our medal haul, and position on the final ladder, still blows me away!:

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Forty years ago, sheessh.

Yes, but of course a lot of countries not there…. And all won on our arses?

 

[Blair]

Yes, but of course a lot of countries not there…. And all won on our arses?

Yeah, the tit-for-tat boycotts in 1980 and 1984, but were the Soviets and other Eastern Bloc countries into our kayaking events? I suppose a Russian or Hungarian might've pipped Kevin Barry, as he beat Evander Holyfield!, for a boxing silver.

 

[JJ]

Yeah, the tit-for-tat boycotts in 1980 and 1984, but were the Soviets and other Eastern Bloc countries into our kayaking events? I suppose a Russian or Hungarian might've pipped Kevin Barry, as he beat Evander Holyfield!, for a boxing silver.

As I recall there were some favoured over our kayakers at that point, we were medal chances? Of course they won and over the next 4 years dominated

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Pole vault qualifying has been an interesting watch, some big guns struggling to make the final. Just watched a GB bird skip the 2 initial heights and go straight to 4.55 which she failed on 3 times so it’s game over, she jumped 4.93 recently

Gee the 3 NZ girls are easy on the eye too

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Pole vault qualifying has been an interesting watch, some big guns struggling to make the final. Just watched a GB bird skip the 2 initial heights and go straight to 4.55 which she failed on 3 times so it’s game over, she jumped 4.93 recently

Gee the 3 NZ girls are easy on the eye too

Female pole vaulters are often glamours

I doubt the girls were complaining about that French bloke who missed his jump because his other pole caught the bar either,that was one well stuffed baguette he was packing

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Female pole vaulters are often glamours

I doubt the girls were complaining about that French bloke who missed his jump because his other pole caught the bar either,that was one well stuffed baguette he was packing

Haha saw that, unlucky champ

That many of them bombed at 4.55m they’ve had to go back to early jumps so all 3 NZ girls have gone through to a final field of 20

 

[Big Marn]

Gold for NZ!

 

[Big Marn]

plus a bonus.. cause i like the womens pole vault.

 

[Blair]

The Boomers are blitzing Serbia early in the 1/4 Final. Patty Mills and Josh Giddey are acing it. NBA players on both sides. Thank God Channel Nine switched from the 'women's' skateboarding to this.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

The Boomers are blitzing Serbia early in the 1/4 Final. Patty Mills and Josh Giddey are acing it. NBA players on both sides. Thank God Channel Nine switched from the 'women's' skateboarding to this.

And Jokic flipped the switch and knocked them out

Yesterday Dillon Brooks came out and said that “LeBron is old, KD is old, Curry is a choker and Ant can’t handle SGA, we will win gold and knock out USA”. Overnight France beat Canada, see ya Dillon

Reminds me of 1 of my favourite pics from the Olympics so far