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Western Sydney Wanderers request safe standing for RBB in new stadium submission

Western Sydney Wanderers are pushing to make their new home in Parramatta the first stadium in Australia to have a dedicated standing end for active supporters, but must first reach an agreement with NRL club Parramatta Eels.

By 2019, the new 30,000 capacity stadium in Parramatta could become the envy of all A-League clubs by including two permanent standing bays for the Wanderers' vocal supporter group, the Red and Black Bloc.

In their submission for the new stadium, the Wanderers requested up to 1000 safe standing seats to be installed to accommodate their passionate fans in a major step in Australian venues catering for football's needs.

Both major tenants entered their requests for features as plans enter the consultative stage of the design process before construction is due to begin following the end of the NRL home and away season in September.

"Our goal is to be playing out of a world-class football stadium in 2019," Wanderers chief executive John Tsatsimas said.
"We have put forward a comprehensive submission and we are engaged in regular consultation on this project to ensure that our members and fans get a venue that we hope will exceed their expectations."

Under the Wanderers proposal, removable seats, or those that can be securely stored inside metal frames, would be installed in the new northern end of the stadium, allowing active fans to be more mobile and active in the stands.

The concept follows practices popular in Argentina, continental Europe and particularly in Germany, where rails give football fans the freedom to support in a more traditional style while preventing crushing or stampedes.

The most likely form of safe standing seating will be the German-style "rail seating" that allows seats to be bolted away for standing areas and easily installed for seating.

The Wanderers trialled these seats sporadically through the northern end at Pirtek Stadium. The club is amid discussions with Parramatta Eels to allay concerns that such a format could obstruct sight for viewers sitting down for rugby league games.

"As part of our submission, a proposed safe standing area in the north end has been included. With the design and architectural development of stadiums around the world we believe this can be achieved and look forward to seeing it become a part of the new design and a first in Australia," Tsatsimas said.

"Flexibility is key to this occurring and we hope the consultation and design will accommodate the needs a multi-use venue requires for one of its key tenants."

Parramatta Eels are very supportive of the concept but will not accept any seating plan that would restrict the view of patrons who prefer to sit down.

Both ends behind the goals of the current Pirtek Stadium are ticketed as family ends by the Eels, whose initial plans are likely to retain the same designated areas in the new stadium.

"Our focus is ensuring that our members and fans receive the best possible game day experience in Australia through the $100 million redevelopment of the Parramatta Leagues club precinct and the new state of the art facilities at Parramatta Stadium," Eels chief executive John Boulous said.

"Discussions regarding design and seating plans are at an early stage and we look forward to working with all stakeholders to ensure it reflects the multi-purpose intent of the facility."
http://www.smh.com.a...118-gm8hny.html

f**k I hope the Wanderers get their way because it will be the best Rugby League/Football stadium in Australia if they do, and both the Eels and Wanderers will be the major beneficiaries from it.

Bag them out all you like.
They are good for us Eels.
I hope Sharp gets on board with this, and doesn't play stupid politics or petty jealousy's.

Suity
 

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The club is amid discussions with Parramatta Eels to allay concerns that such a format could obstruct sight for viewers sitting down for rugby league games.

Parramatta Eels are very supportive of the concept but will not accept any seating plan that would restrict the view of patrons who prefer to sit down.

Don't forget to bring the thermos and knitting needles. FMD.

Surely, there's a few thousand Eels fans who, from the old Cumberland Oval days, would prefer to stand?
They don't even have to get active. Just stand there and clap clap clap when the loud speakers say to.
Surely.
 
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FFS, will you socca fans get your priorities right and learn how to use an apostrophe? :)

As long as they can reconfigure the mosh pit at short notice I don't care.
 

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FFS, will you socca fans get your priorities right and learn how to use an apostrophe? :)

As long as they can reconfigure the mosh pit at short notice I don't care.

I'm a f**king builder, not an English teacher.

And your point about the mosh pit is just that.
Safe standing is reconfigurable for the knitting crowd at short notice.
So no problems there Ba'''''z.

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I'm a f**king builder, not an English teacher.

And your point about the mosh pit is just that.
Safe standing is reconfigurable for the knitting crowd at short notice.
So no problems there Ba'''''z.

Suity''''

:)

Why do they need to commit to this sort of stuff this early? Do they need to limit the rise on the section where they plan to have the mosh pit?
 

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Some comments from the other site.

There are a lot of rugby league fans who like to stand up to watch the game as well, it's definitely a lot more popular but it's certainly not something confined to just football. You only have to look at the hills at Brookie, Jubillee, Leichhardt etc to see it's popularity cause it adds a more old school, traditional feeling to the game which is what most fans are crying out for. I see it being a big hit for both clubs.

It won't happen. Australia is risk averse.

It won't happen because it's not something they have in American stadiums. Those making the decisions about stadiums in this country seem obsessed with whatever they do in America.

Also, there's a couple of pics of a very sexy stadium that has the perfect capacity for both clubs on that page. It's from Austria I think.

http://www.westsydneyfootball.com/topic/6304-parramatta-stadium-new-stadium-news/page-43
 

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Seriuosly, how good would this be?

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You serious?
How soon do you want a new stadium?

Suity

I mean what is so special about the mosh pit that needs to be accommodated in the structure? If a section of seating needs to be convertible do they need to have a lower gradient? Otherwise, fight about the seats / non-seats later.
 

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Mind you i dont really wanna be sitting behind that pole on the right there ... its a bit like tim cahill's lift
 

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OK.

Some interesting news coming out tonight.
This, from the Wanderers forum.......

Guys, I have some pretty exciting news to share with you tonight. Tonight a few random Wanderers members were chosen at random to be part of a focus group of what we want in a new stadium.

The meeting was held at Pirtek stadium in the Cumberland lounge which had a mix of WSW & Eels fans.

The focus group (user group) was one of many meetings that will be held with police, venues, council, FFA, WSW etc etc. Ernst & Young are the ones running the groups & they are tasked to put together a project brief which will form the basis of the tender for the stadium.

The information im about to share with you is not confidential & they actually want to share the feedback that you give to the points they discussed tonight.

(Maybe Mack or Pablo might be best to summarize the information, my brain is a little fried)

(Edit 2: I'll list what was discussed but expand tomorrow)

Issues discussed:
What was good about this stadium:
- Drainage & surface condition
- Unrestricted view
- Close to the action

Rail Seating

Seating bowl

Food Options

Area outside the stadium, for pregame rituals but within the stadium confines

Safety for pedestrians post match

Area to hide police vehicles within the stadium

Police presence

Govt is keen for a 30k stadium (everyone disagreed, need to future proof it)

Museum for WSW & Eels + restaurant on site

Would we rather have more leg room or be closer to the field

Type of seating (flip up)

What we liked in other stadiums but what we didn't like in them too

Do we want to see the greenery & trees while we are at the stadium?

Dugouts below advertising hoarding

Family area but with view of the game

Roofing & covered seating

Then there was these posts, and tbh, they ain't wrong........


Just saw mack's tweets..
30k only inc 3k corporate
Built to cater for union, league and football so likely to be way too long between goals and terrace to have optimum football atmosphere.
Safe standing not an option for eels
To be built to accomodate for end and start of league season.. no shock.
***** me.. pretty sure we are the major tenants!


Sounds like the tender brief is already locked away and this is a token exercise.

Why should the eels be bothered about safe standing? If 3k of a 30k stadium is safe standing then they will still have about 17000 spare seats each week
 

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