OT: The official "Put Sh!t on Ricky HERE" thread

[Poupou Escobar]

Our boy BA now sits on a 50.5% record.

*51.76

103 wins from 199 games. After tonight it'll either be 51.5% or 52%

 

[Ron Jeremy]

or a pic of him sucking a dick for gay rights while giving the two thumbs up at the camera

 

[hineyrulz]

Plenty of Texers and Hurtin down Canberra way ATM.

 

[Gronk]

*51.76

103 wins from 199 games. After tonight it'll either be 51.5% or 52%

The TCT guys were speculating that Ryan Carr prolly has more to do with preparation this week, so I reckon any loss tonight should not be applied to BA are you with me ?

 

[King-Gutho94]

So seeing as BA and Ricky tenures started at the same time in 2014.

Who has a better record since then.

Well Canberra have won more finals 5 wins from 9 games to our 1 win from 6. Canberra have 3 preliminary final appearances and a GF in 2019 in the ricky era.

But Parramatta have more finals appearances 4 (17,19,20,21) to there 3 (16,19,20)

BA has won 5 more games in the H/A season. Parra won 100 to canberra 95 and a draw

So BA has a better overall win% then 101 wins from 193 games at 52.33% including finals

Ricky has 100 wins and a draw from 197 games overall 51.02% including finals.

So what record would you rather after 8 years ricky's or BA's.

BA can improve that in next month hopefully as well

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The TCT guys were speculating that Ryan Carr prolly has more to do with preparation this week, so I reckon any loss tonight should not be applied to BA are you with me ?

Results in any given game don't say much at all about a coach. It's the long term (large sample) that matters, so every win and loss has to count.

 

[Avenger]

I think BA is an infinitely better person than Ricky and I reckon they are on par as coaches. Ricky has just had more luck in the semis which you need plenty of.

 

[Noise]

So seeing as BA and Ricky tenures started at the same time in 2014.

Who has a better record since then.

Well Canberra have won more finals 5 wins from 9 games to our 1 win from 6. Canberra have 3 preliminary final appearances and a GF in 2019 in the ricky era.

But Parramatta have more finals appearances 4 (17,19,20,21) to there 3 (16,19,20)

BA has won 5 more games in the H/A season. Parra won 100 to canberra 95 and a draw

So BA has a better overall win% then 101 wins from 193 games at 52.33% including finals

Ricky has 100 wins and a draw from 197 games overall 51.02% including finals.

So what record would you rather after 8 years ricky's or BA's.

BA can improve that in next month hopefully as well

One of them also has a wooden spoon to his name in that time.

 

[hineyrulz]

Ricky has more hair and larger nostrils.

 

[TheParraboy]

 

[Poupou Escobar]

One of them also has a wooden spoon to his name in that time.

One's at a club with structural weaknesses that has seen 13 different coaches run last, including Ricky Stuart, who incidentally has coached at four clubs and only won the spoon in his sole season at Parra. However he won just as many games (five) at the Sharks in 2009 but avoided the spoon because Fittler's Roosters had a worse for-and-against. Another coach who never won the wooden spoon was Hilditch, even though he only won three f**king games in 1995 and finished 19th.

This is why I think wooden spoons are a pointless way to compare coaches. Trent Robinson's team only won six games in 2016 (as many as Parra in our 2018 spoon season) but were 'saved' by the existence of that awful Knights team.

 

[Noise]

One's at a club with structural weaknesses that has seen 13 different coaches run last, including Ricky Stuart, who incidentally has coached at four clubs and only won the spoon in his sole season at Parra. However he won just as many games (five) at the Sharks in 2009 but avoided the spoon because Fittler's Roosters had a worse for-and-against. Another coach who never won the wooden spoon was Hilditch, even though he only won three f**king games in 1995 and finished 19th.

This is why I think wooden spoons are a pointless way to compare coaches. Trent Robinson's team only won six games in 2016 (as many as Parra in our 2018 spoon season) but were 'saved' by the existence of that awful Knights team.

It’s a comparison of results from 2014 - 2021. If we include their best results we can’t ignore their worst. And BA got a spoon.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

My point is 'wooden spoon' isn't a result because it relies on other teams not being worse. You could say Arthur's worst season (6 wins) since 2014 is worse than Stuart's (8 wins), but even wins in a given season is subject to all these factors out of the coach's hands. Best would be to compare Arthur's and Stuart's win rates over the nearly eight years they've been at their clubs. But even that assumes a parity of resources and an equal starting position. Parra had won 11 games in the previous two years. Canberra had won 24 including a finals match.

 

[strider]

oh ricky you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind, hey ricky, hey ricky

 

[Noise]

My point is 'wooden spoon' isn't a result because it relies on other teams not being worse.

Is 'minor premiership' not a result because it relies on other teams not being better?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Is 'minor premiership' not a result because it relies on other teams not being better?

Not really. Not if you're using it to compare it with another season. Penrith aren't minor premiers but just won their 21st game of the year, more than any minor premier since 2007, when the Storm also won 21 games.

'Minor premiership' is a story, not a meaningful data point.

 

[Noise]

Not really. Not if you're using it to compare it with another season. Penrith aren't minor premiers but just won their 21st game of the year, more than any minor premier since 2007, when the Storm also won 21 games.

'Minor premiership' is a story, not a meaningful data point.

Lol so 1st isn’t a result and last isn’t a result. I’m guessing 2nd through 15th aren’t results either.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lol so 1st isn’t a result and last isn’t a result. I’m guessing 2nd through 15th aren’t results either.

I'm sure I've said before that ladder position doesn't say much about a team (or its coach) without a lot of context. Win percentage is better, but even one season is a very small sample (and this is the only sample over which premiership/spoon or 'making the finals' is recorded). It (win rate) is a far more meaningful statistic over multiple years.

 

[IFR33K]

I think Rs results are a little better as Is his recruitment. Seems as thou Ba is a better man manager thou.

 

[Gronk]

Ricky’s season monumentally turned to shit , not unlike how the Footy Gods decided the same fate with our 2018 season.

I’m keen to know why the UK bunch of half George Williams, Hooker Josh Hodgson and BR John Bateman all wanted out.

Homesick ? No because their managers shopped Williams and Hodgson. Last week Reidy’s mail even said that Bateman was looking to come back to NRL.