OT: Wooden spoon betting

[Gronk]

I hear on 2GB that betting agencies have suspended betting for the Wooden Spoon after a punter this morning put $40K on Storm to win the spoon...

Wonder if he's a mate of Schuberts ?

 

[Gronk]

Bookie suspends betting after Melbourne Storm backed for wooden spoon

• From: AAP
• April 22, 2010 11:35AM

Storm warning ... a bookie has stopped taking wooden spoon bets after punters backed Cameron Smith and premiers Melbourne to run last. Source: Herald Sun



A LEADING bookmaker has suspended betting on the NRL wooden spoon after fielding several wagers on premiers Melbourne Storm to finish last.

Title favourites Melbourne are currently fourth on the NRL ladder after four wins and two losses and have been the subject of a salary cap investigation.
"We took three bets to win $10,000 and another to win $8000 for the Storm to win the wooden spoon all within 10 minutes of each other this morning," said Sportingbet Australia spokesman Bill Richmond.
"You don't take a series of bets like that unless someone knows something and we have suspended betting on the wooden spoon as a result.
"Melbourne is now our worst result for the wooden spoon despite the fact they are premiership favourites."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...for-wooden-spoon/story-e6frexnr-1225856813930

 

[parra-matters]

some suspect going on here.

 

[Parra Steve]

Either that or the person who put money on the Storm to get the spoon needs desperate help.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

All this gambling talk in rugby league is going to come back and bite the the NRL in the ass one day,someone will get done for match fixing and something else dodgy.


Centrebet sponsoring the footy show,constant live odds updates during games etc etc


RIP NRL

 

[Y2Eel]

One of the Big betting agencies stopped the betting on the Wooden spoon a few weeks ago might have been sports bet...

 

[strider]

you could take 20pts off melbourne and they'd still not get the spoon :lol:

 

[strider]

"We took three bets to win $10,000 and another to win $8000 for the Storm to win the wooden spoon all within 10 minutes of each other this morning," said Sportingbet Australia spokesman Bill Richmond.

so the bet will WIN $10K .... so what are melbourne's odds of getting the spoon?
@200/1 a $50 bet would win you $10K ... @100/1 a $100 bet
so there wasn't a whole lot outlayed .... bloody sooky betting agencies, can't handle losing :roll:

 

[Gronk]

you could take 20pts off melbourne and they'd still not get the spoon :lol:

Sad, but true ! :lol:

IIRC we made the semis the year that the Dogs lost their points. We might need the same leg up this year as well.

 

[TheParraboy]

gee, this is gonna fire up the sharks, might put a whooping $5 on them this weekend

 

[Cayless Hindmarsh]

"It is understood any fine or sanction won't be retrospective, so Melbourne's 2009 premiership is not threatened by the findings."

Damn

 

[eels_fan]

Looks like they'll lose their 8 pts and get a 6 figure fine

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...ary-cap-breaches/story-e6frep5o-1225856812862

if it is found they cheated last year. They should lose their points this year instead. Eg. Finished on 34pts last year, they now go to -26pts

 

[strider]

The fine is likely to be at least a large six-figure amount, with rumours it could go as high as $1 million.

cool - so would the NRL/News Limited be footing the bill for that just like they foot the bill for everything else melbourne storm? :lol:

 

[strider]

I say the NRL should let the investigation drag on as long as possible, then impose the points penalty so that they can take more points off them for all the extra wins they'll get between now and then :thumn

 

[MarkInTheStands]

So the Bets were to win 3 X $10,000 and 1 X $8,000 with the Storm at $251

So the Bets were 3 X $40 and 1 X $32.

So Wooden spoon betting was shut down for bets in total of $172.

WOW.

 

[eels_fan]

some agencies are still accepting betting

Storm are 3rd favourites for the spoon at $6

 

[Gronk]

Just so we maintain consistency in the punishments, for the record:-

• In 1991, the Canberra Raiders were fined $100,000 and ordered to pay $85,000 in unpaid salary from 1990.
• Eight clubs were fined in 2000: Newcastle ($159,000), the New Zealand Warriors ($100,000), Penrith ($81,000), Canterbury ($50,000), Parramatta ($40,000), Melbourne ($24,500), the Sydney Roosters ($13,000) and Cronulla ($7,000).
• Three clubs were fined in 2001: North Queensland ($100,000), Melbourne ($90,000) and Brisbane ($84,000).
• In 2002, the Canterbury Bulldogs were found to have committed serious and systematic breaches totaling $920,000, which was enough for two extra top level players, and was described by NRL Chief Executive David Gallop as "exceptional in both its size and its deliberate and ongoing nature". The club was hit with a record $500,000 fine and were stripped of all 37 competition points accumulated to that date; the club won the wooden spoon as a direct result. An extensive NRL investigation resulted in two senior club officials being charged with 21 counts of fraud, theft and forgery by NSW Police. Both pleaded guilty and were sentenced to nine years imprisonment with a seven year minimum.
• Five other clubs were also fined in 2002: the Sydney Roosters ($149,000), Newcastle ($85,000), Melbourne ($67,000), the Wests Tigers ($58,500) and Brisbane ($57,500).
• Nine clubs were fined in 2003 after a crackdown in light of the Canterbury scandal the year before: Melbourne ($131,000), Penrith ($60,000), Newcastle ($40,000), Brisbane ($20,000), South Sydney ($15,250), the New Zealand Warriors ($15,000), Cronulla ($10,000), and Canterbury ($10,000).
• Seven clubs were fined in 2004: Melbourne ($120,000), Canterbury ($82,500), St George Illawarra ($32,500), Penrith ($25,000), the Sydney Roosters ($25,000), and Canberra ($5,000).
• Four clubs were fined in 2005: St George Illawarra ($20,000), Newcastle ($11,000), Canterbury ($8,500) and Canberra ($1,000).
• In 2006, the New Zealand Warriors revealed that their former management had exceeded the salary cap in 2004-2005. The club were fined $430,000, started the season with a four point deficit, and were ordered to play 2007 under a reduced salary cap of $3.15 million (salary floor of $2.79 million).
• In 2007, the Canberra Raiders were fined $175,000 but did not lose any points.
• Six clubs were fined in 2008: South Sydney ($71,000), Wests Tigers ($47,000), Canberra ($46,000), Canterbury ($25,000 and given a $25,000 good behaviour bond), Melbourne ($14,000) and Brisbane ($10,000).[22]
• Five clubs were fined in 2009: St George Illawarra ($15,000), South Sydney ($12,500), Gold Coast ($5,500), Bulldogs ($5,000) and Wests Tigers ($3,500).

We can now revert to the above when the scope of the Storm breach has been made public to ensure that the punishment fits the crime.

 

[PJ Marshal]

unless you have a scandal in your club you cant win a premiership it seems

 

[Suitman]

Just so we maintain consistency in the punishments, for the record:-



We can now revert to the above when the scope of the Storm breach has been made public to ensure that the punishment fits the crime.

It also appears from that list that Melbourne are serial offenders, being fined no fewer than 6 times before this latest alledged breach.

Suity

 

[fish eel]

If Melbourne cop an 8 point fine, IMO they'll still make the finals and be hard to beat.

Punishment, if it's a big enough offence and the NRL can identify which players benefited, should involve deregistering a contract, and preventing Melbourne from signing anyone.