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GongPanther

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I was laughing nearly the entire time about how comically bad they both were. It put me a little more at ease about our prospects this year.
Had a look at the rest of Souths' '22 season games. And being generous, I only have have them ending up with around 12 to 16 comp points when you look at their poor start to this season.

Melbourne on the other hand will be struggling to make the top 8 going by their player losses and form.
 

Iamback

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Had a look at the rest of Souths' '22 season games. And being generous, I only have have them ending up with around 12 to 16 comp points when you look at their poor start to this season.

Melbourne on the other hand will be struggling to make the top 8 going by their player losses and form.

Souths will start 0-5 but are flat track bullies. Will beat enough bad teams to make it
 

Munky

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It's round 2.

I'm not willing to make sweeping statements about what teams will be doing come week 1 of the finals.

The Storm in particular will get into form and have a game plan that suits their squad going forward.

Souths however do look horrible with a rookie coach and halfback, really should have made a play for SOS as insurance.
 

Iamback

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The wins I included were when Souths do play the bad teams. Tops they'll only get around 7 wins going by their crappy form so far. And that is being generous.

Warriors
WT
Dogs
Cows

I have as the bottom 4 sides.

They have 7 games against those sides

Us
Storm
Roosters
Eels

are the top 4 sides.

I probably still have them in front of Manly.

Not sure where GC, Dragons or Broncos sit compared to them. So I just split their games.

So 14 wins is where I have them. Of course injuries will play their parts
 

Kilkenny

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It's round 2.

I'm not willing to make sweeping statements about what teams will be doing come week 1 of the finals.

The Storm in particular will get into form and have a game plan that suits their squad going forward.

Souths however do look horrible with a rookie coach and halfback, really should have made a play for SOS as insurance.
I don’t like the make sweeping statements beyond the current round.

Its is entirely speculative, and ignores the many variables that occur week in week out, particularly given I think this season will be a much tougher competition.
 

Kilkenny

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I’m in Perth, 3pm kick off over here. So strange watching a Friday night game at 3pm. It is so important the boys play with the same intensity they showed against the Sea Eagles, if we do we should be good enough to win But Dragons will be up for it I’m sure and are a better looking side in paper this year.
 

Iamback

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How many times do you really get a shock in the top 4? Or even the GF?

The spoon too is a team that is expected.
The rest of the comp is the variables.

I have a Code membership. This was posted before Round 1
So if Souths do infact start 0-5 they will have to defy history to win the comp

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panther.mike

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What a terrible game. slowing the play down by lying on tackled players yet they [storm] get penalties for bunnies slowing the game . WTF
 

Kilkenny

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I think in the end the Bunnies won the penalty count, got half a dozen or so in last 10-15, all deserved.
 

snickers007

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How many times do you really get a shock in the top 4? Or even the GF?

The spoon too is a team that is expected.
The rest of the comp is the variables.

I have a Code membership. This was posted before Round 1
So if Souths do infact start 0-5 they will have to defy history to win the comp

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I can't believe that 3 teams have been 4 from 5 and then fallen in a heap to take the spoon.
That's gotta include the Bulldogs and Storm teams who had points deducted right?

Would love to see the raw data on this.
 

Iamback

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I can't believe that 3 teams have been 4 from 5 and then fallen in a heap to take the spoon.
That's gotta include the Bulldogs and Storm teams who had points deducted right?

Would love to see the raw data on this.

I will try and post the whole article.

Cowboys in 2006 won 6 from 6. missed the 8. JT must of gotten injured

Here is the whole article
 

Iamback

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Fox Sports Lab: Winning the NRL premiership in April​

Cliches about winning the NRL premiership in April will no doubt flow as the season kicks off. But as FOX SPORTS LAB uncovers, there is a kernel of truth to this old chestnut.

Fox Sports Lab

3 min read
March 8, 2022 - 12:00PM
A fast start to the season almost guarantees your club will make the finals. Picture: Cameron Spencer/Getty Images

A fast start to the season almost guarantees your club will make the finals. Picture: Cameron Spencer/Getty Images
It’s as regular as clockwork.
The first ball of the season is kicked off and your team is good. They dominate the ruck, score some sick tries and easily brush away the competition. Your new recruits are gelling with the tried-and-true stalwarts and your coach cracks a couple of jokes in the press conference.
It happens once. Twice. Three times. There’s a glint in your eye and a spring in your step. Could it be? Is this early season form going to translate into a finals appearance or if you dare to dream … the premiership?
The short answer is yes. The longer, more complicated answer is maybe.
There is no doubt a strong start to your season reflects on your ability to make the finals, and especially the top four. The below table, starting from 1999 (when the current run of top eight finals began) shows the number of times a team has had a win/draw from their first five games, and how many went on to play finals or win the premiership.

Source: Fox Sports Lab

Source: Fox Sports Lab
The eventual premiers have won (or drawn) at least three of their first five games 18 times since 1999, with just five teams winning the title winning two wins or fewer.

The finals countdown​

The Panthers started their 2021 campaign with five from five wins. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

The Panthers started their 2021 campaign with five from five wins. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
If the premiership is still too far in the distance, it’s handy to look at your club’s chance of making the finals if they start the season well.
To win the current NRL premiership, it’s pretty much a given you’ll have to finish in the top four. And to do so, you’ll have to win three of your first five games. Around half of the teams that have made the top four since 1999 have won/drawn four or five of their first five matches.
Taking into account the Bulldogs in 2002 and the Storm in 2010 (points stripped for salary cap cheating), more than 80 per cent of top four teams in that time have won at least three from five games.
Two wins from five season-opening games spells disaster for your club’s top four hopes.
Pretty much every team that has gone five from five has gone on to make the finals – except for one outlier, the Cowboys in 2006, who won their first six games of the season but finished ninth.
Source: Fox Sports Lab

Source: Fox Sports Lab

The good, the bad and the ugly​

It's not really a surprise the Storm are easily the best-starting team in the competition, winning three plus games 19 times, giving them a better than three win-average. The Roosters sit in second with 16. These two teams have won 10 of the 23 comps since 1999 and have made the grand final a further eight times*.
The Warriors have won just two games to start the season 15 times, which is one of the worst streaks in the league. They have made the finals just eight times in this 23-year time period, which is a reflection of how important it is to have a good start to the season.
The Cowboys have also struggled and have the worst average ‘good start’ to the season across the NRL, winning just 2.04 games of their first five.
But let’s not forget, anything is possible in rugby league. There is one team that overcame the odds to make the finals – the Wayne Bennett-coached Brisbane Broncos of 1999, who started 0-5 and recovered to meet the Sharks in the qualifying final (they lost 42-20).

The Broncos of 1999 recovered from a 0-6 start to make the qualifying final against the Sharks. Picture: NCA

Who to tip in Round 1​

It’s not science but there are a few teams you can load up on to win their first game of the season.
The most obvious is the Melbourne Storm, who haven’t lost a first-round match-up in 15 years since the Titans entered the competition.
And it’s probably a good idea to steer clear of Manly!

The Storm and your tried-and-true best bet for a Round 1 win. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images
Source: Fox Sports Lab

Source: Fox Sports Lab
 

Kilkenny

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Stats are great, I don’t know where to find the stats you are able to come up with and they make great reading I guess.

I’m more of a watch and interpret kind of fan I guess. Just call it as I see it guess. No bold predictions based on past history.

I don’t know what our win loss ratio is at Kogarah - Jubilee don’t really care as I don’t think it has any bearing on tonight’s game. It’s ancient history to me.

I just hope we can build on our performance against the Sea Eagles and if we do that we may give ourselves a good shot at coming away with the two points.
 

The_Frog

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Well overdue.
Differential (scrum) penalties were brought in when scrum penalties were rampant. They're not really relevant in today's game.

And it's such a simple change:
a) Infringements relating to the formation/feeding/scrumming remain as differential penalties.
b) Infringements relating to breaking early (forwards or backs) are a full penalty (not 6 again), regardless of field position.
c) Foul play in scrums remain full penalties.
Or just get rid of the differential penalty altogether. It was brought in when there were several times the number of scrums we have now, and they were an actual contest, and when a penalty goal was worth only 1 less than a try.
 

murraymob

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The sharks easily have some of the dumbest players in the nrl .dumb penalties are gifting the game to the heels
 

Fangs

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Hynes is an obvious target for attacking teams.

But the Sharks attack on both sides of the field is very good. They execute well. Will trouble plenty of teams.
 

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