taste2taste
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In fairness Tonga were coming off a weeks rest, they had all the running in the first half, just like Australia will be all over Tonga in the final with a week off. Don’t underestimate how big a week off is, that’s why teams 1 and 2 are rewarded with a week off in the nrl. The current model is deeply flawed until we have 4 teams.Rather than write a new post I'll just copy and paste my post from the NZ section version of this thread. With obligatory congratulations to Tonga first since this is an all comers thread.
Two days later and I'm still pee-d off at this result. Rant incoming.
That was a pathetic display from selections down to the poor game management at the end.
I 100% do not buy into any claims we were the underdogs due to a weakened team. Even with a weakened team we should have won. The fact is we got to within 1 point after a first half where we shed 24 points and could barely complete a set without an error and then we should have put the game away before the Tongans got their drop goal.
It was rank stupidity to go into this series with a plan to play a fullback who had an average season as our starting 6, instead of a guy who genuinely had a good season at 6. Love Stacey as a player but getting Kidwell vibes from him as a coach.
The big names in our pack didn't fire a shot in the first half, then came right in the second, if they'd done it from the start we'd have won that.
We made Tui look like a competent half in that first 40, and fat Taumololo look like he was good again.
AFB was never going to pass that close to the line, why hang off him? They did it late in the game too, just hit him when he starts dancing around. TBF getting him to the ground is easier said than done but at least freaking try.
Why was Niukore playing and Riki sitting in the stands. Niukore living off a couple of good years rep, he was mostly mud this year when not injured.
The NZ crowd was pathetic. Turn up for the Warriors yet allow Tonga to take over the ground for test rugby.
Rant over (for now).
Good things. Loved the passion that Crossland showed playing for the Kiwis, he seems like another Foran who will give his all for us despite being raised in Oz. Neame has had great impact. Kini is a talent, a pity he was expected to play 1 and 6 at the same time.
Other things. I dislike Ka Mate so much prefer the Kiwis own haka.
I don't care about Origin from the point of view of players playing for Tonga. There's not many in that team I consider genuine players who really wanted to be Kiwis, Fat Taumalolo yep back in the day, but even a guy like AFB is tenuous, he only used us because he wasn't picked by Tonga. Our NZ Samoans have mostly stayed loyal too. But I think since we're getting beaten by supposed tier 2 teams then is should be opened up to NZers and Origin, therefore guys like Howarth and Ponga could play origin and NZ.
Was going to go to the game next week (Commbank is a great stadium) but my two mates have both said they're not keen after that display. So now, I'm not sure what I'll do. The ticket price would have been fine for two games, but I'll likely bugger off after the Kiwis match as I hate both those two teams playing the final.
Its arguable if Kodi would have been better at 6, in attack he would have been much better but defensively he’ll be targeted and Tonga would have got quick play the balls.
This game was played at breakneck speed, it was spectacular to watch, a lot of the mistakes or miss tackles you talk about happened under extreme fatigue. We see the same in origin towards the back end of halfs players making poor decisions. At least we didn’t have a repeat of the cam Murray try in the WC were b.smith was too gassed to even put an arm out.
i agree its a poor showing by NZ fans not to show up for the national team, the only excuse is higher ticket prices ? Or maybe the sell out warriors crowds are largely made up of Samoans and Tongans ??
I agree about the coach, turning down Bennett was insanity. And thinking Madge was going to undermine the team ror origin was also cuckoo.