Pangai's 3rd party problem.

[Generalzod]

The following article is from the Sydney Morning Herald (source: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/br...unpaid-third-party-deals-20200825-p55p3j.html) -

Denial denial denial its not just a river in Egypt...

 

[Vee]

[QUOTE="Exsilium, post: 14300392, member: ] ex-players weighing in on key business decisions doesn't always net you results.[/QUOTE]
Neither does ignoring them and forgetting those who dug the well.

 

[gUt]

I’m fairly confident the above was tongue in cheek, in the off chance it wasn’t.

To be fair, one of your CEO’s gave evidence during a criminal trial stating the out of salary cap cash payments were made to players.

IMO that practice has been common place at Brisbane, as it has and would be at other clubs. How the Broncs have escaped any media scrutiny for this practice is astounding.

My post was specifically about the TPA I mean TPJ situation where his complaint is apparently about a "verbal" agreement; i.e. no agreement.

All other historical accusations pertaining to the Broncos careful management of its salary cap remain pure unfounded speculation and frankly indulging in such speculation is beneath the dignity of any intelligent rugby league fan.

 

[Mr Spock!]

My post was specifically about the TPA I mean TPJ situation where his complaint is apparently about a "verbal" agreement; i.e. no agreement.

All other historical accusations pertaining to the Broncos careful management of its salary cap remain pure unfounded speculation and frankly indulging in such speculation is beneath the dignity of any intelligent rugby league fan.

Where's Andrew Gee?

 

[Mr Angry]

Where's Andrew Gee?

 

[_Johnsy]

My post was specifically about the TPA I mean TPJ situation where his complaint is apparently about a "verbal" agreement; i.e. no agreement.

All other historical accusations pertaining to the Broncos careful management of its salary cap remain pure unfounded speculation and frankly indulging in such speculation is beneath the dignity of any intelligent rugby league fan.

How can it be unfounded speculation? The CEO gave evidence in court under oath.

I would have thought any Brisbane fan with a modicum of dignity and/or intelligence would admit that they dodged a massive bullet.

The fact the then News Ltd owned & run NRL chose to do nothing doesn't make it unfounded speculation.

 

[Perth Red]

My post was specifically about the TPA I mean TPJ situation where his complaint is apparently about a "verbal" agreement; i.e. no agreement.

All other historical accusations pertaining to the Broncos careful management of its salary cap remain pure unfounded speculation and frankly indulging in such speculation is beneath the dignity of any intelligent rugby league fan.

TBF it was witnessed and the verbal agreement was guaranteed then its still a contract and they can be held to it. Devil will be in the detail of what was said by who and who witnessed it.

 

[lynx000]

TBF it was witnessed and the verbal agreement was guaranteed then its still a contract and they can be held to it. Devil will be in the detail of what was said by who and who witnessed it.

It still requires there being a concluded agreement with a third party, and the evidence suggests that this did not occur. If there is no agreement, there is no TPA and nothing to report and nothing to guarantee.

I really don't believe that TPJ is the sharpest tool in the shed and this seems to emanate from Hooper (another blunt instrument). I will be surprised if there is anything to it, but with the shit show my club is at the moment it is not beyond the realms of possibility.

 

[Twizzle]

TBF it was witnessed and the verbal agreement was guaranteed then its still a contract and they can be held to it. Devil will be in the detail of what was said by who and who witnessed it.

but it cant be proven

 

[Perth Red]

It still requires there being a concluded agreement with a third party, and the evidence suggests that this did not occur. If there is no agreement, there is no TPA and nothing to report and nothing to guarantee.

I really don't believe that TPJ is the sharpest tool in the shed and this seems to emanate from Hooper (another blunt instrument). I will be surprised if there is anything to it, but with the shit show my club is at the moment it is not beyond the realms of possibility.

like I said depends on what was said, if Brisbane promised a $100k tpa verbally during the contract negotiations, and Pangai can prove it, then they can be held to it as a contract.
if they they said they may be able to get him it then they are in the clear.

 

[Perth Red]

but it cant be proven

Depends if their was witnesses to the conversation.

 

[Quicksilver]

Westies got in trouble for thinking about offering Robbie a job after footy.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

TPJ “tHe MaN tHaT i’Ve BeCoMe TodAy”

* multiple cheap shots keeping him constantly on the sideline
* breaks isolation on numerous occasions risking the entire league
* follows bikies and gang land figures on social media

f**k off merkin

 

[Frailty]

Ben Dobbin claiming on Triple M that TPJ may have a paycut in a deal to stay at the Broncos.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...n/news-story/059cd6f05bed7492d45b25ca347e9df4

Ben Dobbin revealed the Broncos boardroom would likely push for revised contract with incentives for Pangai Jr to meet.

“I reckon he is going to have to take a hair-cut on the pay,” Ben Dobbin told Triple M.

“He will admit he is wrong and get a restructured contract with some clauses in it.

“If they restructure the deal to a one-year contract in the Broncos favour and he proves to the club that he wants to be there and stays on the field.”

Surely this can't be allowed to occur.
You either cancel his contract and let him go, or he stays on his current contract.

It's a joke if the Broncos, with this history of dodgy deals, are allowed to just pay a player less.

 

[gerg]

Wow that would be incredible. TPJ accuses the club of a dodgy TPA and as a result is forced to take a reduced contract which also reduces the clubs salary cap hit - probably with larger TPA deal.... nothing to see here. I'm sure the NRL couldn't possibly allow something so farcical.

 

[dogslife]

I want to know the snake oil salesman that convinced him that taking less money is a good thing. Well done to that unknown Broncos employee

 

[Perth Red]

Wow that would be incredible. TPJ accuses the club of a dodgy TPA and as a result is forced to take a reduced contract which also reduces the clubs salary cap hit - probably with larger TPA deal.... nothing to see here. I'm sure the NRL couldn't possibly allow something so farcical.

Vlandys is very quiet for a change,
wouldn't want to jeopardise that NSW racing contract with News Ltd by any chance?

 

[gUt]

Pure speculation time but is this more evidence if any be needed of Brisbane's masterful contract management? Imagine a fictional scenario where the club is happy to play hardball with a talented player who by his own repeated actions on and off the field has revealed himself to be a complete liability.

In response, the by-now desperate player is lead down the garden path by a journo serving his own interests which only reveals the utter weakness of the player's negotiating position. Brisbane, happy to let him go knowing he's demonstrated to the entire comp he's worth a lot less than his talent alone would suggest, make a low ball counter offer allowing the peanut to stay.

 

[Perth Red]

Pure speculation time but is this more evidence if any be needed of Brisbane's masterful contract management? Imagine a fictional scenario where the club is happy to play hardball with a talented player who by his own repeated actions on and off the field has revealed himself to be a complete liability.

In response, the by-now desperate player is lead down the garden path by a journo serving his own interests which only reveals the utter weakness of the player's negotiating position. Brisbane, happy to let him go knowing he's demonstrated to the entire comp he's worth a lot less than his talent alone would suggest, make a low ball counter offer allowing the peanut to stay.

I'm interested in how player contracts are written that can bypass employment law in regards to performance management having to be put in place before someone can be sacked? RLPA dont seem to have done a very good job!
The recent Bulldogs case of unfair dismissal would surely hold true for Pangai who has done nothing more than a dozen plus players and a high profile coach this year who havent been sacked for covid breaches. (Unless there is some stuff we dont know about?)

 

[Knight76]

I'm sure the NRL couldn't possibly allow something so farcical.

Just re-read what you typed there.