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Parramatta Eels set to axe Nathan Hindmarsh in $1.5M cleanout

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BESIEGED Parramatta are preparing for the delicate task of tapping four of the club's most experienced stars, including club icon Nathan Hindmarsh, on the shoulder.

The Sunday Telegraph has discovered that coach Stephen Kearney will tell Hindmarsh, Luke Burt, Shane Shackleton and Justin Poore their services will not be required next year.

Backrower Ben Smith, who has a chronic knee injury, is also expected to be part of the $1.5 million cleanout as Kearney looks to develop youth and change the losing culture at the club. As the entire club bunkered down following Friday night's humiliating 39-6 loss to Penrith, it was revealed:

* THERE is growing frustration among senior players. It was underlined by Shackleton, who yesterday was forced to apologise to Kearney after he criticised the coach on Facebook, posting: "Kearney is F******" when asked why he wasn't part of the NRL side;

* NORTH Queensland young gun Jason Taumalolo rejected an approach to join his younger brother at Parramatta only a fortnight ago;

* AFTER posting only two wins from their past 18 games, Kearney has the worst winning percentage of any Eels coach in 50 years;

* AND star fullback Jarryd Hayne is rated an outside chance of returning from a knee injury this Saturday night against Manly.

It was left to Eels chairman Roy Spagnolo to defend the club's ageing roster, claiming it was up to Kearney as he backed the coach to fix the mess. "I haven't got a comment on that. We haven't sat down with them yet and we've got total faith in what the coach is doing," Spagnolo said.
"At the end of the day, it's his decision whether he re-signs those guys or not. I've been at the club for a long time and I've seen a lot of those guys grow up from kids.

"But I've stayed right away from it as much as possible to try to give (Kearney) every chance to succeed.
"In 2009, things clicked for us after eight or nine games and you don't go from being a good player to being a bad player overnight. You don't just let blokes go without trying to replace them with someone better, either."

In the wake of the Eels' 0-4 start to the season - their worst in 21 years - the club is facing accusations they have a losing culture.

By calling time on Hindmarsh, Burt, Poore, Shackleton and Smith, the Eels will free up around $1.8 million to re-invest in new talent.
Despite the woeful start, Spagnolo added to chief executive Bob Bentley's support for the coach's five-year plan to turn the club around.
"What's the culture problem? That's a myth. They used to say that when Brett Finch and Mark Riddell were here, but I don't think we've got that at all," Spagnolo said.

Pressed about the perception there was a losing culture among the Eels' senior players, Spagnolo said: "Look, that group of players haven't won a comp. But they've made two grand finals and under Brian Smith they made a hell of a lot of finals series. "The last 18 months haven't been good, but we've been competitive." Spagnolo said the Parramatta fans who threw coins at the Eels were not real supporters and backed the club to turn the corner soon.

"There's two types of fans. There's the ones who stick with you through thick and thin and the ones who throw coins.
"Without fans we haven't got a club, so you've got to keep them happy. We're working hard to turn in around."

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MrT

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BESIEGED Parramatta are preparing for the delicate task of tapping four of the club's most experienced stars, including club icon Nathan Hindmarsh, on the shoulder.
The Sunday Telegraph has discovered that coach Stephen Kearney will tell Hindmarsh, Luke Burt, Shane Shackleton and Justin Poore their services will not be required next year.
Backrower Ben Smith, who has a chronic knee injury, is also expected to be part of the $1.5 million cleanout as Kearney looks to develop youth and change the losing culture at the club.
As the entire club bunkered down following Friday night's humiliating 39-6 loss to Penrith, it was revealed:
* THERE is growing frustration among senior players. It was underlined by Shackleton, who yesterday was forced to apologise to Kearney after he criticised the coach on Facebook, posting: "Kearney is F******" when asked why he wasn't part of the NRL side;
* NORTH Queensland young gun Jason Taumalolo rejected an approach to join his younger brother at Parramatta only a fortnight ago;
* AFTER posting only two wins from their past 18 games, Kearney has the worst winning percentage of any Eels coach in 50 years;
* AND star fullback Jarryd Hayne is rated an outside chance of returning from a knee injury this Saturday night against Manly.
It was left to Eels chairman Roy Spagnolo to defend the club's ageing roster, claiming it was up to Kearney as he backed the coach to fix the mess.
"I haven't got a comment on that. We haven't sat down with them yet and we've got total faith in what the coach is doing," Spagnolo said.
"At the end of the day, it's his decision whether he re-signs those guys or not. I've been at the club for a long time and I've seen a lot of those guys grow up from kids.
"But I've stayed right away from it as much as possible to try to give (Kearney) every chance to succeed.
"In 2009, things clicked for us after eight or nine games and you don't go from being a good player to being a bad player overnight. You don't just let blokes go without trying to replace them with someone better, either."
In the wake of the Eels' 0-4 start to the season - their worst in 21 years - the club is facing accusations they have a losing culture.
By calling time on Hindmarsh, Burt, Poore, Shackleton and Smith, the Eels will free up around $1.8 million to re-invest in new talent.
Despite the woeful start, Spagnolo added to chief executive Bob Bentley's support for the coach's five-year plan to turn the club around.
"What's the culture problem? That's a myth. They used to say that when Brett Finch and Mark Riddell were here, but I don't think we've got that at all," Spagnolo said.
Pressed about the perception there was a losing culture among the Eels' senior players, Spagnolo said: "Look, that group of players haven't won a comp. But they've made two grand finals and under Brian Smith they made a hell of a lot of finals series.
"The last 18 months haven't been good, but we've been competitive."
Spagnolo said the Parramatta fans who threw coins at the Eels were not real supporters and backed the club to turn the corner soon.
"There's two types of fans. There's the ones who stick with you through thick and thin and the ones who throw coins.
"Without fans we haven't got a club, so you've got to keep them happy. We're working hard to turn in around."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...nathan-hindmarsh/story-e6frexnr-1226309151214
 

Ron Jeremy

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Yeah that will solve everything, refer to my thread, he's fast becoming g worse then Hagen kearney
 

Daneel

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I got some bad new for you Roy, although throwing coins is gutless, the fans that aren't sticking with the eels through thick and thin had probably already gone home.
 

natheel

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that quote from shack is worrying.

hard times at the club


kearney needs to clean the place out, players need to understand why this is happening. feel sorry for hindy if this is how it's going to end for him though. he should retire on his own terms. but sk also needs to show he isn't f**king around
 

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I think Spagnalo should do the right thing and resign.We need a clean out from top instead of always blaming the players and coach.Lets get rid of the morons running the club
 

natheel

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I think Spagnalo should do the right thing and resign.We need a clean out from top instead of always blaming the players and coach.Lets get rid of the morons running the club

i agree. the whole club is in trouble

but as fans we need to keep supporting them and the coach for what ever he does

but i hoestly think...Kearney will get rid of these guys then won't get resigned. he will have done his job of doing the dirty work and getting a stronger junior retention but i feel we will bring in a new coach for 2014 to get us up there with a new era starting
 

MrT

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I don't disagree with any of the players being let go.
Hindy should come out on his own and state his plans though, so he doesn't have this kind of press in the paper. He should have said something before season started.

He's 32 now and you can see his body has had enough. For the sake of his own future health he should retire.

Poore - $350k is no loss
Shack - no loss
Ben Smith - knee problems, shame he couldn't stay on
Burt - has been discussed enough on other threads
 

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If Roy said this then he also forgot to mention about the two types of directors,
1, the ones that work behind the scenes to undermine Daniel Anderson, etc, which destabilises the club, and
2, the ones who work hard maintaining respect, loyalty, sincerity, pride, transparency, empathy/compassion, etc, throughout all areas of Eels operations, keeping everyone together and focused on a common win-win objective. :crazy:
 
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That is worrying. If the fact the coach has no faith in the senior players and vice versa is not a good sign. You can either back the players or back the coach. I don't think SK has proven enough as a coach to be able to make such big calls. Shacks was a bit silly to post that on facebook if that's true. But he certainly should be in first grade ahead of some of these other players so perhaps a personal thing. Also a 5 year plan is too long, if a coach can't turn around things in the space of 2 years then they probably shouldn't be a first grade coach. Fans won't accept that. All in all, things aren't going well if all this is true.
 

tresurehunt

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ah well that didnt take long,as per in my other thread ,he has lost the dressing room .

unsubstantiated crap .mmmmm

#ithinknot
 
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Redback71

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if they start treating hindy like shit, there will be riots. I might even start one myself lol
 

Casper The Ghost

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That is worrying. If the fact the coach has no faith in the senior players and vice versa is not a good sign. You can either back the players or back the coach. I don't think SK has proven enough as a coach to be able to make such big calls. Shacks was a bit silly to post that on facebook if that's true. But he certainly should be in first grade ahead of some of these other players so perhaps a personal thing. Also a 5 year plan is too long, if a coach can't turn around things in the space of 2 years then they probably shouldn't be a first grade coach. Fans won't accept that. All in all, things aren't going well if all this is true.

Agree with everything you say bar Shacks outpouring.
Sometimes they do wonders which help bring to a head deep-seated seething issues.
 

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I think Spagnalo should do the right thing and resign.We need a clean out from top instead of always blaming the players and coach.Lets get rid of the morons running the club

Spagnalo didn't miss any tackles last night. I don't know if he's in charge of recruiting or anything but the people that built this roster need the bullet. I can't remember a team looking more lifeless than the slippery eels friday night.

And Shack is now a tool. If you think the coach is a d!ck then you toughen up and tell him. At least you'll earn or keep some respect. You don't reply to some facebook knuckle shuffler and call him a f@#$!#t. If Parra were travelling well then Shack would have no chance of playing FG this year. There must be a reason he is in reggies and if he can't handle it then he needs to grow up or work harder.

Pretty easy story to fabricate though, might be some half truths in it. Hindy is already in line to retire, Poore has always been on the nose at Parra, Burt was dropped, Shack is blueing with the coach.
Put the names together and call it a cleanout.
 

natheel

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That is worrying. If the fact the coach has no faith in the senior players and vice versa is not a good sign. You can either back the players or back the coach. I don't think SK has proven enough as a coach to be able to make such big calls. Shacks was a bit silly to post that on facebook if that's true. But he certainly should be in first grade ahead of some of these other players so perhaps a personal thing. Also a 5 year plan is too long, if a coach can't turn around things in the space of 2 years then they probably shouldn't be a first grade coach. Fans won't accept that. All in all, things aren't going well if all this is true.

all we get is what the papers are reporting. i reckon it must be pretty f**king bad at the club for this to be happening. SK deserves to be respected and has the authority to do what he likes with recruitment etc
 

MrT

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This is the DT stiring sh*t. Seriously Parra has already let Hindy go at least 1 season too long. People say he should go on his terms, well he is because last year should have been his last if you ask me but it's Hindy, we all love him and he'll always be remembered. He's 32 now and is getting behind the pace. He doesn't need to go out when he can no longer keep up. He's got nothing to prove to anyone, he's done his part.

The club must go on and whats best for the club must happen
 

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