Parramatta great Brett Kenny offers to help coach Jarryd Hayne

[True EEL]

Furthermore, any coach who doesn't rate Hayne as one of the best 17 players in NSW should have been drowned at birth.

Suity

agree completely, its a joke to think Hayne is not considered part of the best 17 NSW could field......particulary since he has been their best player for the past 3-4 seasons and IS NSW's best attacking force, their x-factor....

 

[Suitman]

agree completely, its a joke to think Hayne is not considered part of the best 17 NSW could field......particulary since he has been their best player for the past 3-4 seasons and IS NSW's best attacking force, their x-factor....

That's what makes me the angriest.

The secret (which it's not) to Qld's success is the fact they place faith in those who have served them well in the past.
I'd go as far to say this is the worst selection decision in the history of Origin.

Suity

 

[True EEL]

That's what makes me the angriest.

The secret (which it's not) to Qld's success is the fact they place faith in those who have served them well in the past.
I'd go as far to say this is the worst selection decision in the history of Origin.

Suity

I think Stuart is trying to make some big stance against Hayne (and i believe) his headbutt and what he considers to be on-field sulking.....it shouldn't be too hard to decipher passion and frustration from sulking for someone as brilliant as Sticky Stuart......and you have made a big call, but i think its on the money. it is a bad call from Stuart. i really think he will ultimately pay for overlooking him and caryying out his personal agendas

 

[spartan2153]

I think Stuart is trying to make some big stance against Hayne (and i believe) his headbutt and what he considers to be on-field sulking.....it shouldn't be too hard to decipher passion and frustration from sulking for someone as brilliant as Sticky Stuart......and you have made a big call, but i think its on the money. it is a bad call from Stuart. i really think he will ultimately pay for overlooking him and caryying out his personal agendas

stuart actually believes dugan is better.

I was talking to my cousin today & he was telling me about all the defence crap about dugans play & i said at the end of the day haynes stats are far more superior to dugans at fullback in every way. Then he mentioned about playing 5/8. So my reply is your punishing a player for being to skillfull for his position. His response was i hate to admit it but your right. When you think about it it makes sense.

 

[hineyrulz]

stuart actually believes dugan is better.

I was talking to my cousin today & he was telling me about all the defence crap about dugans play & i said at the end of the day haynes stats are far more superior to dugans at fullback in every way. Then he mentioned about playing 5/8. So my reply is your punishing a player for being to skillfull for his position. His response was i hate to admit it but your right. When you think about it it makes sense.

Then Stuart is dumber than i thought.

 

[Parra]

he did such a good job with Wenty

He went OK. Not a massive improvement from when he took them over, but an improvement.

Stop listening to the spin doctors and look at the results.

Why did bert do as a coach that deserves your sarcasm?

 

[Avenger]

I'm bagging his non-5/8 work.

His kick returns are weak and he barely talks at the back. Often spends the first three tackles in defence with his back to the game, lazily strolling around behind the line.

HaHa is already a five-eighth. Chuck the damned 6 on him and put someone at the back who can do what needs to be done there as HaHa rarely does it.

Then why are his stats just under Billy Slater's for kick returns ?

 

[Avenger]

When in form there is no better player in the world. He is a freak and if it were up to me I would sign him up for life.

 

[Twizzle]

He went OK. Not a massive improvement from when he took them over, but an improvement.

Stop listening to the spin doctors and look at the results.

Why did bert do as a coach that deserves your sarcasm?

the squad he took over was previously in the finals I believe and under Bert they went backwards

he got a very average result from a squad that should have finished higher

 

[Parra]

the squad he took over was previously in the finals I believe and under Bert they went backwards

he got a very average result from a squad that should have finished higher

I thought they finished 7th the year before, and sixth under Kenny.

Then he got the sack and the team is now right up there with the NRL squad.

Maybe this is a building year instead of a competing year for them as well.

Bring back bert!

 

[Casper The Ghost]

exhibit B = Andrew Johns

worked wonders when he was our halves coach

Well in a way this is true, Robson & Mortimer were part of the late 2009 Eels season juggernaut.

 

[yy_cheng]

why is he only piping up now mortimer has been struggling at 5/8 for years why didnt bert offer to help him?

Because like some of us here who doesn't care about his blue blood, Mortz has no fundamental talents to be a good 5/8th so instead of 6 mths it would be 12 years.

 

[Eelementary]

My take on his comments about playing 5/8 is that he has almost certainly had discussions with kearney on the topic, and he was being solid with those plans.

I reckon he is copping it very unfairly from some parra fans.

He has clearly adjusted his game massively to the style the coach wants him to. Not only that, he is doing it beautifully. He is playing much better than people are giving credit when you consider that he has had to make considerable changes to his style.

People are fixating on his kick returns and perceptions about effort when he is actually working his arse off, as well as being very unselfish in modifying the style he is playing.

It has cost him the flashy moments from his game; it has cost him a rep jumper that obviously means a lot to him.

He is carrying our team single handedly and yet a bug potion of our own fans are kicking him?

Well said.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Originally Posted by Bigfella
My take on his comments about playing 5/8 is that he has almost certainly had discussions with kearney on the topic, and he was being solid with those plans.

I reckon he is copping it very unfairly from some parra fans.

He has clearly adjusted his game massively to the style the coach wants him to. Not only that, he is doing it beautifully. He is playing much better than people are giving credit when you consider that he has had to make considerable changes to his style.

People are fixating on his kick returns and perceptions about effort when he is actually working his arse off, as well as being very unselfish in modifying the style he is playing.

It has cost him the flashy moments from his game; it has cost him a rep jumper that obviously means a lot to him.

He is carrying our team single handedly and yet a bug potion of our own fans are kicking him?

Well said.

x 2

 

[yy_cheng]

My take on his comments about playing 5/8 is that he has almost certainly had discussions with kearney on the topic, and he was being solid with those plans.

I reckon he is copping it very unfairly from some parra fans.

He has clearly adjusted his game massively to the style the coach wants him to. Not only that, he is doing it beautifully. He is playing much better than people are giving credit when you consider that he has had to make considerable changes to his style.

People are fixating on his kick returns and perceptions about effort when he is actually working his arse off, as well as being very unselfish in modifying the style he is playing.

It has cost him the flashy moments from his game; it has cost him a rep jumper that obviously means a lot to him.

He is carrying our team single handedly and yet a bug potion of our own fans are kicking him?

I guess it is a moot point now as Roberts will most likely be the 5/8th next year.

My point in making Hayne a 6 is that basically he will control the team almost 4 out of the 6 plays. (Does not include the rucking out from our end of the field).

It will be what he is accountable for. To setup plays for the eels.

I don't think that he performs his fullback duties 100% because he is playing a 2nd five eighth role and hence, we lose the supporting fullback and strong kick returns.

At 1, he is not 100% accountable for playmaking as the 6 & 7 must take some responsibility. Hence, Hayne can take a back seat if he wants to.

At 6, he would be fully accountable for playmaking and since he is our best playmaker, he should perform most of the playmaking.

All that talk about, what about the extra defense, well, he'll get use to it.

It doesn't stop Lockyer, Thurston or Soward does it?

Lastly, I for one believe that Hayne is in good form. However, I reckon he could be better especially at 6 and the team would have better direction as Hayne would be in charge of the attack.

 

[Runaround Man]

I believe Ricky Stuart is intimidated by certain players and feels he can't be alpha male around them and thus cannot 'coach' them.

That is why he did not pick Hayne and Idris, two very strong characters.

Another point: Really upset with the disrespect shown on this site towards Brett Kenny who is an absolute rugby league legend in anyone's book in any era of our great game.

I can only assume that those people bagging him did not live through his playing days. As a boy he was one of my heroes. Regardless of his coaching ability, he is a legend and he should be spoken only with respect on this forum.

I wonder if anybody on this forum who are bagging him have ever laced on a boot in a first grade team, or a blues team or a Kangaroo team or done a lap of honour on grand final day. I know I am raving, but seriously, he is a f**king legend.........

 

[spiderdan]

Yep Kenny is a legend of a player but an absolute dick of a bloke. Takes more than being a talented football player to earn respect in my eyes. Same goes for ray price and the way he goes on at times.

 

[TheRam]

I reckon there are 3 true reasons that have created the perfect storm in Ricky Stuart leaving Jarryd Hayne out of the NSW team.

1. As we all know he is a real shit coach.
2. Lets not under estimate the influence of Dugan playing for Ricky's favourite old club and that he is also playing under one of his great pals in D. Furner.
3. Ricky is a real shit coach.

 

[parra pete]

Actually, I think you'll find Ricky and David aren't such great pals..Ricky has been given the side he wants. He will have to live or die with it...

 

[footy mum]

Yep Kenny is a legend of a player but an absolute dick of a bloke. Takes more than being a talented football player to earn respect in my eyes. Same goes for ray price and the way he goes on at times.

Spiderdan this is my first post on this forum. I question whether you have ever personally spoken to Brett. I have to wonder if you are the type of person that believes everything you read in the media and make your assumptions based on that.