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Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

bazza

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No worries. How naive of me to think major infrastructure project managers are beholden in any way to the prerogatives and desired timeframes of departments (and hence the ministers) who are holding the resources that pay for the project and all its constructions!
would be concerned about how much bullshit was spewed in the tender process and if anyone involved in the decision making got anything out of it
 

King-Gutho94

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NYE in the City is pretty overrated don't know why so many people go in there tbh.

Its just a prick to get home from after mid-night with everyone in there, every place is packed your probably paying more and really what's the difference with the fireworks on a TV Screen then being nearby.

Nothing really.
 

T.S Quint

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NYE in the City is pretty overrated don't know why so many people go in there tbh.

Its just a prick to get home from after mid-night with everyone in there, every place is packed your probably paying more and really what's the difference with the fireworks on a TV Screen then being nearby.

Nothing really.

I did the NYE city thing once and that was enough for me. Have always done backyard BBQs which are always fun.

I did Hogmanay in Edinburgh one year and that was awesome, although as in Sydney is was shit trying to get out of the city centre.

I’m not really one for fireworks. A minute or two is fine, but when you’re just watching them go off for 15 f**king minutes it gets boring.
These days I usually have a very quiet one on our farm down the south coast. BBQ, some beers, a cocktail or two and great conversation. Our neighbour down there puts on a decent firework show that doesn’t go on too long (not surprising when your neighbour is Justin Hemmes).
 

Suitman

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For the record, the following article is wrong.
Toby Warnes was on the radio this morning stating that the Govt had offered 5% per year over 3 years. So 15%
That still wasn't enough for them.
I absolutely support the Govt in standing their ground against this mob of attempted bank robbers.

(https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...nions-warned-that-new-year-s-commuter-chaos-is-intolerable-20241217-p5kyy8.html).


Rail unions concede that the number of trains running in Sydney over New Year’s Eve could be halved by the resumption of industrial action, which the state Labor government says it will use every legal lever to stop.

A day after workers voted in favour of a fresh round of industrial action, the Rail, Tram and Bus Union (RTBU) notified the state’s rail operators that a raft of work bans and other actions will take effect from the early hours of December 28.

They include a cumulative reduction each day in the number of kilometres train crew will work, which poses one of the greatest disruptions to the rail network because it will make staff rostering more difficult.

Asked how many fewer trains will run on New Year’s Eve, RTBU state secretary Toby Warnes said the kilometres that drivers and guards would operate each train would be about half the usual number, which he estimated would then result in a halving of the number of trains running.

“It certainly won’t mean that trains won’t run. What it means is that it makes it harder for senior management to roster workers onto trains,” he said.

“It will absolutely disrupt the rail network, but it won’t be commuter chaos.”

The government wants to put on an extra 1000 train services to help cater for more than a million people descending on Sydney’s harbour front for New Year’s Eve fireworks.

Transport Minister Jo Haylen said any industrial action at New Year’s was intolerable given the enormous demands on the public transport system from more than 1.5 million revellers.

“This is a big transport event, and it is a big global event,” she said. “No level of industrial action is tolerable this time of the year, particularly given how tough it’s been for families and businesses.”

However, Warnes said the unions were at a point where the government was not engaging in talks, which was why workers needed to take action to force it back to the negotiating table.

“It’s been absolute radio silence. We hope that the government comes to table and comes to us with an offer,” he said.

The Electrical Trades Union, which has about 940 members at the rail operators, also notified of hour-long work stoppages and bans on switching on or off high-voltage power on the rail system.

Haylen warned the government would pursue “all legal options” to ensure passengers and businesses were protected from disruption to the rail network from industrial action.

“No level of industrial action is acceptable. We need to be able to provide those services ... on New Year’s Eve,” she said.

Sydney Trains sought the intervention of the workplace umpire on Tuesday by applying to Fair Work for it to mediate in negotiations with the unions over a new pay deal. Both sides will return to the commission on Wednesday.

Treasurer Daniel Mookhey said uncertainty killed trade and surety about the train system was needed to avoid hurting businesses and the state economy. “This is a critical time for the NSW economy – not a time to play chicken with the NSW economy,” he said.

The long-running impasse brought Sydney’s rail network close to a shutdown in late November before the government gained an injunction in the Federal Court which blocked the RTBU and five other unions from resuming industrial action.

Business NSW chief executive Dan Hunter said even the threat of strike action was damaging to businesses and the economy.

“There are businesses at the moment in the CBD and greater Sydney that are on a knife edge, and the threat of strike action alone could be the straw that sends them into bankruptcy,” he said. “We need this to be solved, and we need it to be solved quickly.”

Tourism and Transport Forum chief executive Margy Osmond said there was a danger that Sydney’s brand as a destination was damaged if the public transport network was severely disrupted.

“People need to know this is a great city to visit, and when you get here, it’s easy to get around,” she said.

The government’s opening offer to rail workers comprised wage rises of 9.5 per cent over three years, as well as a further 0.5 per cent in the first if a deal is reached in a “timely manner”.

It is substantially lower than demands from the RTBU and the five other unions for a 32 per cent pay rise over four years.
 

Suitman

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I did the NYE city thing once and that was enough for me. Have always done backyard BBQs which are always fun.

I did Hogmanay in Edinburgh one year and that was awesome, although as in Sydney is was shit trying to get out of the city centre.

I’m not really one for fireworks. A minute or two is fine, but when you’re just watching them go off for 15 f**king minutes it gets boring.
These days I usually have a very quiet one on our farm down the south coast. BBQ, some beers, a cocktail or two and great conversation. Our neighbour down there puts on a decent firework show that doesn’t go on too long (not surprising when your neighbour is Justin Hemmes).

It's great that you can head down the coast and drink beers and cocktails and have a BBQ.
I do similar and head to the Snowy Mountains each year when I can. A BBQ, some beers and wine, looking across the lake to the mountains watching the sunset. Then, later on, sitting in front of a fire pit talking shit with good friends and drinking wine until the small hours.
However, each year, there's more than a million people who like to do otherwise, and that is watching the fireworks on Sydney Harbour. Many of them with young families. A bit like a lot of our parents did for us when we were kids.
NYE in Sydney is huge. It should not be held to ransom by a rail union's greed.
I'm not saying you were suggesting that however.
 

Suitman

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David Babineau, the bus and tram divisional secretary of the Rail, Tram and Bus Union (RTBU), believes Parramatta’s light rail will not open until mid-2025 because much of the testing conducted over the past year will have to be redone.


7 days ago - 🤔
 

Suitman

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‘Watch fireworks at home’: Train strike union’s advice to NYE revellers
It wants to halve New Year’s Eve trains with one million people on the move, but the rail union says that won’t ruin Sydney’s big night: there are other options ... like buses and staying home.

James O'Doherty

Daily Telegraph
December 17, 2024 - 5:44PM

The rail union is threatening to cut New Year’s Eve train services by half in a move which could wreak havoc on the network on a night when services would normally surge to move more than a million people through the city.
The Rail, Tram and Bus Union is threatening to go ahead with strike action which will slowly cripple the train network, despite warnings that industrial action would leave millions of people will disrupted and damage Sydney’s international reputation.
RTBU NSW Secretary Toby Warnes on Tuesday would not accept that strike action “will ruin New Year’s Eve,” but estimated that the network would be running at 50 per cent.
A train network at half capacity would chaos major disruption on a normal weekday, let alone on New Year’s Eve, where 1000 extra services are put on.
Transport officials are now “concerned” that the actions would make the network “unsafe to run”.

RTBU NSW Secretary Toby Warnes addresses the media in a press conference in Sydney CBD to provide an update on bargaining for rail worker's Enterprise Agreement. Picture: NewsWire / Gaye Gerard


RTBU NSW Secretary Toby Warnes addresses the media in a press conference in Sydney CBD to provide an update on bargaining for rail worker's Enterprise Agreement. Picture: NewsWire / Gaye Gerard

Mr Warnes said people would find another way to come to the city — including a bus, metro, or a taxi – or “watch the fireworks at home”.
It came after Transport Minister Jo Haylen on Tuesday vowed to “pursue all legal options” available to stop “any” industrial action on New Year’s Eve.

“No level of industrial action is tolerable this time of the year, particularly given how tough it’s been for families and businesses,” she said.
Treasurer Daniel Mookhey said the Rail, Tram and Bus union has not moved from its demand for a 32 per cent pay increase, and warned officials that they should not use New Year’s Eve to “play chicken with the NSW economy”.
The combined rail unions are threatening to take a range of strike action from December 28, including driving trains 23 kilometres per hour under the speed limit and reducing the kilometres staff drive each shift.
“The cumulative effect of these bans, and some bans in particular, mean that services are cancelled and delayed,” Ms Haylen said.

‘INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT’
Business groups said any disruption over New Year’s Eve would be a disaster that could cause international embarrassment.
“There is a real danger that we damage the brand that is Sydney if our public transport system isn’t working the way it should,” Tourism and Transport Forum CEO Margie Osmond said.
Business NSW CEO Dan Hunter said that the “threat of strike action” could be enough to send businesses under.
“If this strike goes ahead, some businesses will experience bankruptcy,” he said.
Mr Warnes claimed that warning was “complete nonsense and hysteria”.
“The fireworks are still going to happen, people will still make their way into the city, regardless of the services that run that night,” he said.
Mr Warnes claimed that the union had not received a wage offer from the government during weeks of extensive negotiations, and said the union had identified $650 million in savings to cover the cost of wage increases.
That was rejected by the Minns government, which said through a spokeswoman that the $650 million in savings did not exist.


The bolded part at the end was mine.
So, who do we believe?
The union, who some here wank over, or the Labor Govt who some here also wank over?
Clearly, one of these two is lying.
My money is on the RTBU. Considering the outrageous 234 itemised demands which I have previously posted here.
 
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