Payne Haas' family issues

[Slammin]

When did she become a judge?

Judges don't make the laws. Premier is responsible for weak laws and sentencing guidelines

 

[Chief_Chujo]

So if she was driving on a suspended license, plus under the influence of something, plus evading police and then allegedly kills 3 innocent people, that surely is at least 20 years?

It's not her go, hard life etc etc. Two years tops with the QC Payne will get her.

 

[Ruby Roundhouse]

What an obnoxious cow.

 

[borisdog]

I blame the judges for this mess. They're a protected species and think they're above the law. Time for Palaszczuk to hold them accountable for their decisions.

That's where I differ from you. They have a series of options that they can roll with. Yeah maybe they've gone soft more often than they should, but who do you think REALLY can eliminate the revolving door.

Remove the soft options from the judges and you're in with a chance, that's the pollie's gig.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

It's not her go, hard life etc etc. Two years tops with the QC Payne will get her.

From what someone else said on here they’re not on speaking terms, which instantly made me like him more

 

[Chief_Chujo]

I blame the judges for this mess. They're a protected species and think they're above the law. Time for Palaszczuk to hold them accountable for their decisions.

Wtf are you on about. They have to adjudicate within the laws and framework set by parliament.

 

[borisdog]

From what someone else said on here they’re not on speaking terms, which instantly made me like him more

Yeah, although I wonder where the Flash Merc came from?

 

[Chief_Chujo]

From what someone else said on here they’re not on speaking terms, which instantly made me like him more

Every boy loves his mum mate. Especially when they're in distress.

 

[Ruby Roundhouse]

I blame the judges for this mess. They're a protected species and think they're above the law. Time for Palaszczuk to hold them accountable for their decisions.

 

[Bronco18]

I blame the judges for this mess. They're a protected species and think they're above the law. Time for Palaszczuk to hold them accountable for their decisions.

There is a reason why the judiciary is independent of the executive government.

 

[borisdog]

"Allegedly driving with a suspended license"

You're journalists, research your story.

That one's a YES/NO. Don't piss about.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Yeah, although I wonder where the Flash Merc came from?

Crims often have cash…

 

[borisdog]

Crims often have cash…

Yeah, I don't know much about love-love's lifestyle.

Although I can make a couple of guesses.

Payne has made a solid move if he's ditched her from his life a while ago.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Wtf are you on about. They have to adjudicate within the laws and framework set by parliament.

Wasn't the convicted criminal released from a 9 month prison sentence after serving just one month?

That's on the judge and parole board.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There is a reason why the judiciary is independent of the executive government.

It would be good if we got a say on who presides over the courtrooms. Make it so the public elect the judges on 3 year terms. That'll get the soft shit out of our courts.

 

[Maximus]

Judges don't make the laws. Premier is responsible for weak laws and sentencing guidelines

Which law in particular do you have a problem with?

 

[Bazal]

Wasn't the convicted criminal released from a 9 month prison sentence after serving just one month?

That's on the judge and parole board.

Who largely make decisions, either innocence/guilt, or sentencing, or parole/release eligibility etc, based on parameters created by lawmakers (who are not just politicians) and evidence, precedent and arguments presented by lawyers.

If you want to pick 'the system' as the issue instead of the criminal, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Canard]

I can tell you that after 2 years of living under curfews and arbitrary fines and house confinement, I'm completely against punitive measures being the only solution to a societal issue.

This thread is being conflated with youth crime, which is most certainly unrelated to the OP or its.

Despite the claims that governments are soft on crime, punitive measures and punishment are the only thing they really do well. They all struggle at identifying the root cause of the problem and taking steps to prevent it.

Most people want to be "tough on crime' for others, but when there mate Johno punches on with the bouncer at Brekky Creek, "give him a break, he was just on the cans".

Lastly, calling for someone to be deported based on their skin colour is almost certainly racist dog whistling.

 

[borisdog]

Who largely make decisions, either innocence/guilt, or sentencing, or parole/release eligibility etc, based on parameters created by lawmakers (who are not just politicians) and evidence, precedent and arguments presented by lawyers.

If you want to pick 'the system' as the issue instead of the criminal, you're doing it wrong.

It's indisputable that the "criminal" is the issue.

But once you have the problem, you have to deal with it.

History is littered with examples of criminals who just kept going because there was pretty much no consequence to themselves for their actions.

The high school bully just keeps stealing your lunch, until someone punches them in the face. Doesn't matter who does the punching.

 

[borisdog]

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Lastly, calling for someone to be deported based on their skin colour is almost certainly racist dog whistling.

And who here called for that?