Peach > GC?

[blacktip-reefy]

he wouldnt hold a candle to the top ten in the comp in his current form.

name tackles Misstackles failure%
webb 99 21 21%
stewart 109 30 27%
hornby 132 39 (six games at half)29%
greenshields 42 11 26%
slater 98 30 30%
Mckinnon 37 13 35%
Minni 68 26 38%
Thaiday 51 23 39%
peach 107 46 42%
Hunt 54 23 42%
Schifkofske 46 20 43%
wesser 99 44 44%
bowen 59 29 49%
hodgson 85 45 52%
patten 58 41 70%


Souths ???? 5 fullbacks

feel free to retract your statemnt Pogo & to apologise to the great man for onceagain being another who spreads lies in order to denigrate a great player & great clubman.
what is your agenda with these lies?

 

[Sheros los Deros]

I think we'll notice how important Peach is to the Sharks when he leaves next year.
It could get ugly.

 

[pogo]

maybe you can add to that menagerie a video clip of the VITAL one on one schoolboy missed tackles that have lead to tries.

particularly the abysmal pathetic limp wristed effort last week against souths that probably cost the team a win!

add to that the attack of dropsy he now has acquired, but thats ok, when you drop it......dont feel bad...just put a big smirk on your dial!!

blind loyalty, get around a few of the nrl clubs and see what they say as well

its very noble trying to defend the indefensible of your second favourite player, just dont use stats that only show part of the story.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

No they tell the whole story
You are wrong. if peach wasnt 31 hewould be snapped up by any of the clubs.
2nd best 5/8 in the comp is smith, with the best being Campbell.
How many clubs went to market for smith? 2
how many clubs went to market for peach? 3

you have been proven wrong again in your opinion & now you take 1 oe 2 anomalies out of 157 records & yet forget about the other 155 of which dozens were try savers.

pogo, do you think that just quite possibly our fullback is being over worked becuase our coach has no idea on defensive strategy, therefore contributing to his mid rankings in defensive effectiveness?
Oh no that would mean that you are also wrong on Raper then too wouldnt it?
and you are wrong on Raper. he hasnt a clue.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Were you beaten up by an aboriginal in your youth Pogo?

 

[Macca]

Are you accusing him of racism because I see nothing in his posts that supports that Reefy.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Accusing people of peachey support as blind?
Accsuing peach of every thing ruby league related despite being proven wrong on every issue of peaches play, he remains defiant & invents new criticisms or sub criticisms like they make or break the team every week?
other players like Simmons & Bird being excluded from criticisms Despite both of those players being responsible directly for more sharks losses in 1 season thant peach in his career?

I think there is something there that maybe only a shrink can dig out.

 

[pogo]

there it is the predictable race card from backflip.

no i actually played in the same side as some and very very often against aboriginal players.

i just judge things on their merit or lack of it.

by the way it was only a matter of time before you put the knife in raper, i d like to see him with the same cattle as some other coaches.

the sharks managements lack of ability to build a side has given you a mnassive opportunity to sh*tpot raper again next year hasnt it?

on tonights game i hope your two heroes peachey and merritt have had plenty of catching practice because my mail is that they will need every bit of it!!

 

[blacktip-reefy]

wow thanks scoop.
Fancy that, Johns kicking the ball.

Fancy that, singling out 2 aboriginals as my heroes?

 

[pogo]

you obviously have an issue with people who criticise players who happen to be aboriginal.

their skin colour has no bearing on my opinions........

unfortunately the debate , whether right or wrong gets you so stirred up you attack me on the grounds of racism.

unbelievable.

 

[Frenzy.]

Racism and bickering aside pogo.

Why does Peachey have to even attempt so many one on one tackles?

That's the simple question that was asked.

 

[Macca]

Accusing people of peachey support as blind?
Accsuing peach of every thing ruby league related despite being proven wrong on every issue of peaches play, he remains defiant & invents new criticisms or sub criticisms like they make or break the team every week?
other players like Simmons & Bird being excluded from criticisms Despite both of those players being responsible directly for more sharks losses in 1 season thant peach in his career?

I think there is something there that maybe only a shrink can dig out.

Pogo pays out on Danny Nutley just as much. Does he hate white men too?

In another sport he is extremely critical of Shane Warne and even Steve Waugh. He has some opinions I don't understand but it's not racism mate.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Well I have played along side Aboriginals all my life.
I have also been around the officialdome of those players.
I have heard all the excuses in the world to describe aboriginal players.
Lines like
walkabout
limp wristed
match deciding tackle
non existent defense
harlem globe trotter attack

I have been standing next to pogos heroes & heard the most dispicable things being said.

I have stood next to NSW selectors and heard them say unbelievable things.

Case point preston Campbell.
look at the bagging he used to get from all and sundry for his defense. Even on this forum.
I dont see the same attacks happening now on players who now average twice as many missed tackles as campbell.
Oh but thats right, aboriginals miss the tackles that matter the most, just ask Pogo.

Lockyer 4.3
Kimmorely 6.4

 

[pogo]

skin colour doesnt aid or abett defence backflip.

keep playing the race card though its consistent at least!

 

[blacktip-reefy]

I am consitent.
Im surprised you know the meaning of the word.
Your opinions appear to be launched in a rubber room.
boucing everywhere, crossing paths & getting in each others way.

 

[black_dot]

Come on Reefy, the race issue is out of line and your letting yourself down by playing that card.

I think captain has made a fair point. blaming peach for missing tackles is like blaming a soccer goalie for letting in 4 goals.

I disagree with Pogo about peach, absolutley I think he has been a form fullback in the comp this year, that's my read on the game and I've watched all peaches games live for many years. His positioning and read in defence has saved many times more tries than he has let in from poor reads. He heards attackers extremely well when they make line breaks and his natural positional play is textbook fullback, he knows where to be naturally.

I disagree with Pogos opinion wholeheartedly, but i've seen no evidence whatsoever to support an accusation of racism, that's just not on mate.

 

[Frenzy.]

Come on Reefy, the race issue is out of line and your letting yourself down by playing that card.

I think captain has made a fair point. blaming peach for missing tackles is like blaming a soccer goalie for letting in 4 goals.

I disagree with Pogo about peach, absolutley I think he has been a form fullback in the comp this year, that's my read on the game and I've watched all peaches games live for many years. His positioning and read in defence has saved many times more tries than he has let in from poor reads. He heards attackers extremely well when they make line breaks and his natural positional play is textbook fullback, he knows where to be naturally.

I disagree with Pogos opinion wholeheartedly, but i've seen no evidence whatsoever to support an accusation of racism, that's just not on mate.

Bit worrying that the question is being repeatedly ignored though.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

You see Dotter, the problem is ( & this is a real problem) you are correct.
There are only 2 people who have bagged peach.
DS & Pogo.
& they have been proven wrong, unequivocably.
Over the last 3 seasons, they have continued to say his time was up, yet he is week in, week out, one of our best if not the best.
so to continue on that theme, with no justification having been proved wrong, hides a more sinister reason.

 

[pogo]

this is the first season i have suggested he is well past his best!

many other people in the rugby league community are saying this also.

tommy raudonikis states in last weeks paper that "peachey is playing like a reserve grader"

what 'sinister' reasons could there possibly be?

all this is an assessment of a player you are so enamoured of you refuse to see what is there in front of you.
no one hopes he plays well more than i do, i dont death ride em like you backflip.

by the way is there a "sinister" reason behind your bashing of simmons? bird? raper? kimmorley? vagana?

 

[island pro]

oi pogo, peach was magical last week and has been going great guns for a while now... as for taking Tommy Raudonikis' comments into consideration, since when was he considered a smart bloke? He can hardly talk, let alone form a valid opinion in his decrepit brain...