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Opinion Penrith

The_Frog

First Grade
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Penrith made a huge mistake in underestimating his potential. He really should have played more last year. If we had given him game time in the centres and had him playing in the GF....what could have been.

Nevertheless I was part of the Burton at Fullback brigade. It would have been the final piece of the puzzle. Edwards is a servicable fullback but he is incapable of leading a team or making big plays. He is a simple cog. Burton would make what is a very competent spine - outright deadly.

The real big mistake the Panthers made was overrating Stephen Crichton - who is a talent for sure - but paying 700K for a centre and not offering Burton a deal over 450K seems pretty crazy though I say this with the benefit of hindsight.
No-one, least of all Burton himself, knew what a success he would make of centre. At the end of last season he was a back up half/five-eighth and that's it. We were offering a transition to the outside backs (which pay less) if it was viable (by no means a sure thing at that stage) and the Dogs were offering a start in the halves, and no doubt they were offering it for 2021, as they were sure he'd be released and put considerable effort into bringing that about. We were never keeping him.
 

Pretty Penny

Juniors
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328
Burton is a genuine gun player but you cant keep everyone else you are over the salary cap so we have to have an all in now approach at the Penrith Panthers. I am not sure how but the Panthers need to get the ball in Burton’s hands more often. He’s a game breaker. I would give him and Cleary all the long kicks as well and I would get Burton into first receiver pretty quick if they are not scoring points.

I feel the Panthers have become a little predictable in attack . Burton is the opposite of predictable.

This is our year mine friends Yes I know you are all believers and are all Penrith fans as your own teams other than South and Manly have no hope to topple the dreaded Darth Vader like enemy of the Melbourne Storm.

When the Melbourne storm come onto the park, Darth Vader's theme song should be played. Dar, dar, dar, de de dar ,de de dar...

As for the :DDarth Vader Dark Sith inspired: Storm; the 19 game winning streak is meaningless compared to winning the premiership. Bellamy has rested half the team, so he thinks so too, For Bellamy, premiership glory is everything and that is why he is a genius coach. He knows what is important and what is not. .He will judiciously balance his larger squad to the opposition, resting key players as he sees appropriate to balance winning the minor premiership with having his top players suitably refreshed. This is shown by the number of players he has out this week whilst still fielding a team good enough to take out the GCT No one in the top side needed to play. Chasing a minor trophy and a winning streak. Game was played in 90% humidity. Add to that the severe concussion at the end of that. Not surprising Hughes could not recall the previous hour and a half – probably longer. Would be quite strange to remember everything up until the first whistle and then go blank, just the actual match clock gone, absolutely nothing else. All a bit nonchalant to say he will just rest up a couple of weeks and be right to go. He’s currently been off 5 1/2 days. Papenhuyzen took 10wks to then play 4 half-games, still not 100%, and now he’s back playing full-time. Ivan or Uncle Ben have also been seen wagging judicious school, so not very wise all round. This year’s injury rate almost guarantees they'll be players lost in the coming weeks. Russian Roulette and judicious don’t usually go hand in hand.

Souffs v Pennies this Friday night may be the match of the season. Big game for both clubs as there are very few tests in the NRL for the Top 3. Souths haven’t beaten Penrith for a long long time.. April 2019 when the Panthers weren’t a real premiership threat and their current main men were in their rookie years.

And big game for the NRL – They desperately need two decent teams going at it a close contest.

Oh and would you look at that Nathan Cleary is cleared to play…Cleary first game back last week and our Panthers were looking much more dangerous. Dragons didn’t go to well on the predicting side. Still the only undefeated player in the NRL, and not through luck.

The Panthers have been less impressive but missing plenty of their key personnel in Cleary, Fisher-Harris & To’o and for a lesser extent of time in that period Yeo, Koroisau, Crichton, & Capewell. Pangia Jnr will be awesome and a match winner. There will still be some “ducks & drakes” and maybe some players spelled . But preparations for the finals with full squads will soon be under way, with week 1 of the finals the first real test.
 

Pretty Penny

Juniors
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328
Gee lockdown is tough. Its physical and mental torture. Especially for the next generation. My poor kids are doing lockdown school and what are they teaching them??? Social Reengineering in the form of TOXIC MASCULTINITY. All the English literature books that the Education Department chose have one theme to them - Men are BAD!

We really need to write to our politicians and get this shit cleaned up because the future of the next generation is at stake. Imagine if you were locked down without being allowed to go outside or see your friends at the age of 16 and 17 and being force fed that you and your sex were all bad and always unredeemable in how you live. It is a terrible thing and the Education Department has a lot to answer for.


For all the Charlie Staines bagging that has game on post the Storm game, lets all remember he is a young kid .He is like the majority of young kids it’s why they call it the second year syndrome it’s real they hit a wall. He will bounce back he has the talent with bit a size watch him fly .I Defiantly back him to bounce back. The abuse is like the whole toxic muscularity thing, I mean really!>!>!> do you really need to abuse a young kid?????

There was one overlap off a scrum against the Storm when JAC went over in Charlie Staines corner. And this is the best winger in the world that we are talking about in Josh Addo Carr. So you kind of have to expect him to win in a one on one. Every other overlap that's got to Charlie on his edge; he's shut down that I remember. A 2 in 10-12 strike rate is pretty amazing. He's helped massively by the hard work of Cleary in particular pressuring from the inside and Crichton reading the game well but it's still pretty great.
 

ACTPanthers

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Pretty Penny

Juniors
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328
If you could read, I think it would help you to actually communicate. That is why English is so important and not just not an excuse for Social Reengineering. Try Shakespeare if you think I am rambling. But I guess that is out of your league and you should stick to Toxic Masculinity and slagging off men, it is a sad world at the moment run by bad people.

If the Penrith Panthers hadn't been so disrupted since origin it would have been a good idea to rest and rotate some players. I mean it is interesting to compare and contrast our policy to Manly or the Storm. The Storm seem to have hit their peak mid season and if anything they have just been ok the last few games. Manly are peaking now but they are a one man band, Tommy Turbo or bust and the Panthers are still trying to get the band together and get everyone fit and firing and still working things out on the run.

The Penrith Panther players should know where they are playing and who is defending next to them.

It's a guessing game at the moment. But Ivan is tinkering through necessity because he is still trying to work out the best line up.

The team should be stabilised and that is the biggest problem the Panthers have. Stabilisation and learning and relearning the combinations before finals. Pengia Jnr needs to know what to do. God it will be exciting to see him play in Penny Panther colours this weekend
 

ACTPanthers

Bench
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If you could read, I think it would help you to actually communicate. That is why English is so important and not just not an excuse for Social Reengineering. Try Shakespeare if you think I am rambling. But I guess that is out of your league and you should stick to Toxic Masculinity and slagging off men, it is a sad world at the moment run by bad people.

If the Penrith Panthers hadn't been so disrupted since origin it would have been a good idea to rest and rotate some players. I mean it is interesting to compare and contrast our policy to Manly or the Storm. The Storm seem to have hit their peak mid season and if anything they have just been ok the last few games. Manly are peaking now but they are a one man band, Tommy Turbo or bust and the Panthers are still trying to get the band together and get everyone fit and firing and still working things out on the run.

The Penrith Panther players should know where they are playing and who is defending next to them.

It's a guessing game at the moment. But Ivan is tinkering through necessity because he is still trying to work out the best line up.

The team should be stabilised and that is the biggest problem the Panthers have. Stabilisation and learning and relearning the combinations before finals. Pengia Jnr needs to know what to do. God it will be exciting to see him play in Penny Panther colours this weekend

Why do you copy other peoples posts?
 

blaza88z

Coach
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If you could read, I think it would help you to actually communicate. That is why English is so important and not just not an excuse for Social Reengineering. Try Shakespeare if you think I am rambling. But I guess that is out of your league and you should stick to Toxic Masculinity and slagging off men, it is a sad world at the moment run by bad people.

If the Penrith Panthers hadn't been so disrupted since origin it would have been a good idea to rest and rotate some players. I mean it is interesting to compare and contrast our policy to Manly or the Storm. The Storm seem to have hit their peak mid season and if anything they have just been ok the last few games. Manly are peaking now but they are a one man band, Tommy Turbo or bust and the Panthers are still trying to get the band together and get everyone fit and firing and still working things out on the run.

The Penrith Panther players should know where they are playing and who is defending next to them.

It's a guessing game at the moment. But Ivan is tinkering through necessity because he is still trying to work out the best line up.

The team should be stabilised and that is the biggest problem the Panthers have. Stabilisation and learning and relearning the combinations before finals. Pengia Jnr needs to know what to do. God it will be exciting to see him play in Penny Panther colours this weekend

Thanks for that PP

Now I can get on with my day

Cheers
 

The Rosco

Bench
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Dear Penny Panther.
For the love of all things sacred, please . . . PLEASE keep following the mighty Panthers.
Don't ever change your team.
They need you, and your refreshing new ideas on the game. Your ideas and views are revolutionary.
Your piece on Burton was groundbreaking. I mean nobody had ever so much as thought that of Burton.
You are right. They should get the ball to him.
And when I looked up the word "predictable" in the dictionary, there was a photo of Burton in a circle with a diagonal red line across it. I don't know what the opposite of predictable is either ( I dunno . . . maybe nonpredictable ?), but Burton is it. That was a Robert Palmer song, wasn't it ? " Simply Nonpredictable "
Your "poetic" attempts of the bleeding obvious seem very, very familiar.
You're Banasta, aren't you ?
 

Pretty Penny

Juniors
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328
On a serious note, As far as the call that Nathan Cleary completed a shoulder charge in the last game. It is possible that the great players get some bias their way. Absolutely. I follow all codes of football however NRL is my main love. I have often watched a game of either NRL, AFL or Soccer where there is one team strongly favoured to win & the 50/50 calls predominantly favour that team. In your words, “It doesn’t matter as it doesn’t affect the result we all expected”. Perhaps that feeling is built into the subconscious of the match officials as they are not biased towards any particular teams, are they?

The ‘expected to win team’ gets the rub of the green and most 50/50 calls in tight situations. I agree that it may not be intentional, however I do believe that fear of the retribution of some clubs causes officials to be concerned and try to find results that will be better for their employment security.

My thoughts are there’s a bit of this confirmation bias from the refs towards the better teams and the better players, but as far as commentators like Gould and others go it’s more simply controlling the narrative to suit their agenda. Their agenda’s are all different, from willing the re-emergence of a style of play from a bygone era, to supporting the interests of friends in club land. I feel it’s too kind and too innocent to put it all down to confirmation bias. Nathan probably deserved a penalty for his shoulder hit but who knows what was the right decision.

I mean in Magic Round that would have got him sin binned and cost Nathan Cleary weeks so the rules in NRL as they do in every sport that has convoluted rules, change not only every week but every single game with different interpretations.

Graeme Annesley can't defend that.
 

Pretty Penny

Juniors
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328
Nothing new with the NRL & their blatant incompetence, specially in regards to consistency…only thing consistent is the inconsistency. Annesley lost the plot this week. The smart arze comments about Barrett were particularly galling.

Our Penny Panthers Nathan Cleary’s tackle is one of around a dozen shoulder charges ignored by the officials over the past month.

My feeling is that they are no longer illegal UNLESS they make contact with the head. Or they are still illegal but the NRL and their officials still can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. It’s like they’ve been told to watch for contact with the head, so previously illegal tackles (ie the shoulder charge) don’t register unless high contact is made.

I’m positive that clubs are stockpiling footage for when the inevitable “crackdown” rears its head again. Players will be charged and clubs will get that downgraded as they can show examples X, Y & Z of shoulder charges that never even got penalised.

Our Nathan Cleary wasn’t let off due to an inherent bias (well maybe just a little bit). He also just happens to be a big name so it has gained attention. Ash Taylor’s was worse against the Rabbitohs, but his low profile has meant the daggers aren’t out with references to Orwell. There are countless other examples (Warriors v Sharks game had players pleading with the ref to penalise a blatant shoulder charge) and I’d love for a journo to put them together and present them to the games hierarchy.
 

Grapple

First Grade
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Penrith will never win a GF against Melbourne. They are a great team, one of the best in the comp when healthy, but not the best. There's just no other way to spin it. Melbourne are too good and wan't it more. Though, it would be great for the comp if Penrith won. Wait and see!
 
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