Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Captain Apollo]

If you wanted to get rid of wrestling, one of the changes should have been to ban having more than 2 players attempting a tackle. Currently the first player holds them up, the second player locks up the ball, the third player actually gets them to the ground. If only 2 players could effect a tackle, it would reduce the opportunities for wrestling in my opinion.

 

[Smug Panther]

If you wanted to get rid of wrestling, one of the changes should have been to ban having more than 2 players attempting a tackle. Currently the first player holds them up, the second player locks up the ball, the third player actually gets them to the ground. If only 2 players could effect a tackle, it would reduce the opportunities for wrestling in my opinion.

Would ruin the sport

 

[Colk]

If you wanted to get rid of wrestling, one of the changes should have been to ban having more than 2 players attempting a tackle. Currently the first player holds them up, the second player locks up the ball, the third player actually gets them to the ground. If only 2 players could effect a tackle, it would reduce the opportunities for wrestling in my opinion.

That would be a better solution than the stupid 6 again rule. Either that or you know actually clamp down on what was occurring if it was deemed to be an issue rather than trying to seem too clever and creating the whole wrath of new issues that have occurred as a result of the 6 again.

The 3rd man in does annoy him more than anything else particularly the one where they dive in on somebody’s legs.

 

[siv]

2nd ruck referee should be used to blow the 6 again ruck infringements

 

[Iamback]

That would be a better solution than the stupid 6 again rule. Either that or you know actually clamp down on what was occurring if it was deemed to be an issue rather than trying to seem too clever and creating the whole wrath of new issues that have occurred as a result of the 6 again.

The 3rd man in does annoy him more than anything else particularly the one where they dive in on somebody’s legs.

It would have the same affect though. Junior Paulo runs at the smallest guys. The small guy can't take him down and with no help the attacking team wins the ruck.

With possession flow comes tries

 

[Iamback]

If teams don't break the rules there are no 6 agains... simple

 

[Wb1234]

The Roosters are the sole reason for 6 again.

There negative tactic of giving away deliberate penalties on their own goal line, had to be stopped as it ruining the game and turned into a turd.

There were instances of Roosters yelling at the ref to penalise them.

And even after the 6 again was introduced, they realised they could exploit it on opposition goal lines, and thus forced another change.

Not sure where this lionisation of Robinson comes from.

Six again was trialled in the all stars where bennett was a fan

the sole reason for six again is the storm

 

[Iamback]

Six again was trialled in the all stars where bennett was a fan

the sole reason for six again is the storm

It is in the International rules, So has fans all over

 

[Canard]

Six again was trialled in the all stars where bennett was a fan

the sole reason for six again is the storm

The Storm pioneered the wrestle, which brought in 2 referees.

The Roosters definitely pioneered the deliberate penalty tactic. Bellamy and Robinson are the best at cynically exploiting the rules (and all power to them, thats their role).

I am personally a big fan of 6 again, and think its made the game far better. You can see how the Roosters and Storm for example, haven't been anywhere near as good as the used to be with it.

 

[beave]

First iteration of the 6 again rule was f**ked.

What we see now is a better balance. Teams were happy to be offside to put a shot on and unsettle teams with the fallout only being an extra tackle or 2. Now it only happens at a scrum which IMO should now be tweaked to be a full penalty no matter where it occurs on the field.

 

[Wb1234]

The Storm pioneered the wrestle, which brought in 2 referees.

The Roosters definitely pioneered the deliberate penalty tactic. Bellamy and Robinson are the best at cynically exploiting the rules (and all power to them, thats their role).

I am personally a big fan of 6 again, and think its made the game far better. You can see how the Roosters and Storm for example, haven't been anywhere near as good as the used to be with it.

Bellamy is

I strongly disagree on Robinson and I dislike the roosters

and unlike the crap nrl sides who are poor storm clones, the storm have actually adapted well to the new rules and got killed with injury this year

 

[Wb1234]

First iteration of the 6 again rule was f**ked.

What we see now is a better balance. Teams were happy to be offside to put a shot on and unsettle teams with the fallout only being an extra tackle or 2. Now it only happens at a scrum which IMO should now be tweaked to be a full penalty no matter where it occurs on the field.

If teams didn’t cheat maybe it would’ve been fine

that’s what led to so many repeat six agains and blowouts

then they realised it wasn’t working due to cheating and adopted the modifications so the cheating wouldn’t work

now we wait and see if the coaches find a new way to cheat the rules

 

[beave]

If teams didn’t cheat maybe it would’ve been fine

that’s what led to so many repeat six agains and blowouts

then they realised it wasn’t working due to cheating and adopted the modifications so the cheating wouldn’t work

now we wait and see if the coaches find a new way to cheat the rules

no what would have worked is when the refs cracked down on wrestling 4 years ago, if the media praised and supported them and not went on a huge tirade blaming them for players indiscretions in the ruck and "ruining games".

 

[Iamback]

First iteration of the 6 again rule was f**ked.

What we see now is a better balance. Teams were happy to be offside to put a shot on and unsettle teams with the fallout only being an extra tackle or 2. Now it only happens at a scrum which IMO should now be tweaked to be a full penalty no matter where it occurs on the field.

You get it on most sets attacking the line still, Slow play the balls ruin the game

 

[Iamback]

If teams didn’t cheat maybe it would’ve been fine

that’s what led to so many repeat six agains and blowouts

then they realised it wasn’t working due to cheating and adopted the modifications so the cheating wouldn’t work

now we wait and see if the coaches find a new way to cheat the rules

Of course they will it is what they should do

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

The Storm pioneered the wrestle, which brought in 2 referees.

The Roosters definitely pioneered the deliberate penalty tactic. Bellamy and Robinson are the best at cynically exploiting the rules (and all power to them, thats their role).

I am personally a big fan of 6 again, and think its made the game far better. You can see how the Roosters and Storm for example, haven't been anywhere near as good as the used to be with it.

Does coincide with the Roosters losing players as a result of an ageing roster, though.

As for the deliberate penalties, I’m not doubting you but I’d love to see a graph showing where on the field, teams are giving penalties away. I remember Sterlo mentioning once that the Roosters conceded more penalties in the opp’s half than own goal line. If anything, they’re guilty of giving away piggybacks.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Does coincide with the Roosters losing players as a result of an ageing roster, though.

As for the deliberate penalties, I’m not doubting you but I’d love to see a graph showing where on the field, teams are giving penalties away. I remember Sterlo mentioning once that the Roosters conceded more penalties in the opp’s half than own goal line. If anything, they’re guilty of giving away piggybacks.

We won't mention injuries during the last 2-3 seasons either (e.g. Billy Smith, Brett Morris, Boyd Cordner, Jake Friend, Victor Radley, Sitili Tupouniua, Luke Keary) which were either season ending or career ending injuries.

As to the point about penalties conceded, you are correct.

 

[LineBall]

If you wanted to get rid of wrestling, one of the changes should have been to ban having more than 2 players attempting a tackle. Currently the first player holds them up, the second player locks up the ball, the third player actually gets them to the ground. If only 2 players could effect a tackle, it would reduce the opportunities for wrestling in my opinion.

Or Drop the number of players from 13 to 12 on each team, and go back to 5 meters (or less) defensive line.

Most of the reason for slowing the play-the-ball is giving time for the defense to get back and ready.

 

[Smug Panther]

If you limited it to 2 tacklers you'd see 200 offloads a game

 

[MugaB]

If you limited it to 2 tacklers you'd see 200 offloads a game

Cause and effect... every rule change just moves an issue elsewhere and creates a new one, by far the six again has proven if you want to cut corners as a team, and deliberately be slack or scummy, you will suffer for it... its why panthers are winning at the moment, coz they aren't giving away needless penalties that roll onto more 6agains/penalties etc, you can see the teams that get caught in that endless cycle of lost possession just get even more tired..
The rule was good, the application was rushed, and the players should have been more professional about taking it on board and working with it, instead of trying to still be scummy and cut corners in the ruck, we only need one ref, this is working, its just the clubs and coaches that are dull haven't got on board, that are struggling