Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Vlad59]

It really isn’t, the biggest jnr area in the country don’t give $1 cashto jnr rl in their area (panthers) take a look at LC financial reports, it’s lucky to be a few hundred 000 to local sport.

This is a flat out lie

 

[MugaB]

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Who's got those shithouse picks now... that's right it's you PR... these are Shiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeetttttt!

 

[Iamback]

This is a flat out lie

He often Lies but is true.

St Marys
Windsor
Blacktown

Have their own Leagues club so they fund their own teams.

The comp as a whole actually makes a profit

 

[Penrith fan]

The AFL give extra to the clubs loosing truck loads of cash.

That is not the same as the NRL.

NRL gives clubs close to 5m each over the cap weather you make money or not.

So the Broncos who make 3.5m a year are still given 5m over cap unlike Collingwood who are given a lesser distribution (12.2m distro) and that money goes to clubs like GWS (27.4m distro) and GCS (27.2m distro).

They are not the same.

Nice try though.

Example.

GWS 28m Grant in 2022 and in 2023 GWS posted a 2.75m loss.
GCS 27m Grant in 2022 and in 2023 posted a loss of 1.7m.

Looks like the Grant for GWS and Suns will have to increase to cover the losses.

That is not over the cap money that is head office paying down red ink.

Hopefully that clears this up for you Jamberoo.

Collingwood get shafted by the AFL, they have no control over their own destiny and have to pay overs to play in a competition where they generate the most money.

At least the big Clubs get a say in how the NRL is run.

Pete "The Man" V Landys system for NRL is much better than the AFL Commision set up.

That is why the NRL are streeting ahead of the AFL in popularity.

 

[Vlad59]

He often Lies but is true.

St Marys
Windsor
Blacktown

Have their own Leagues club so they fund their own teams.

The comp as a whole actually makes a profit

The leagues club provides grants across a huge number of community projects including footy. He minimises that due to his miserable agenda.

 

[Jamberoo]

The AFL give extra to the clubs loosing truck loads of cash.

That is not the same as the NRL.

NRL gives clubs close to 5m each over the cap weather you make money or not.

So the Broncos who make 3.5m a year are still given 5m over cap unlike Collingwood who are given a lesser distribution (12.2m distro) and that money goes to clubs like GWS (27.4m distro) and GCS (27.2m distro).

They are not the same.

Nice try though.

Example.

GWS 28m Grant in 2022 and in 2023 GWS posted a 2.75m loss.
GCS 27m Grant in 2022 and in 2023 posted a loss of 1.7m.

Looks like the Grant for GWS and Suns will have to increase to cover the losses.

That is not over the cap money that is head office paying down red ink.

Hopefully that clears this up for you Jamberoo.

Strange reply. That is what my post said. You just went into more detail.

 

[BlueandGold]

Strange reply. That is what my post said. You just went into more detail.

This was your original post and its factually incorrect.

''The AFL cap is around $13.5m. AFL distribution is variable. The strong clubs (about half the league) get less than that but the other half get up to double that (Suns, GWS, St Kilda). All up also around $80m - $90m above the cap.''

They do not get money over the cap.

Those same clubs if they turn around the clubs financials will have that same money taken away.

Where as NRL clubs will not have money taken away if they turn around the finances of the business.

So the AFL are not giving out 80-90m over the cap like you claim.

The NRL is giving out that amount and god knows how much is going to grass roots.

2023 NRL 76m a year in grass roots funding + clubs 85m over the cap funding.

2019 NRL 88m a year in grass roots funding.

All in all the angle from some folk in here that the NRL is funding grass roots less than 5 years ago is plain wrong.

 

[BlueandGold]

Clubs are spending much more on Grassroots funding compared to 5 years ago.

Even the Dolphins have to spend an extra 2m a year on Grassroots across Qld as per the license agreement.

NRL grants 17th club licence to The Dolphins » League Unlimited

leagueunlimited.com

 

[Penrith fan]

Yes the penny has dropped.

The battle is at the grassroots level and in juniors.

Simply the NRL must outspend AFL to win the war.

Money needs to be pumped into support at the kiddie level for the next generations' hearts and minds.

We are so close.

 

[The_Wookie]

Collingwood get shafted by the AFL, they have no control over their own destiny and have to pay overs to play in a competition where they generate the most money.

You say this shit like its true. Its not. Most years they also dont generate the most money.

The big clubs have benefits not available to other clubs by virtue of blockbuster fixturing and favourable stadium agreements built on decades of fixture inequality. Collingwood in particular is GUARANTEED most of its games will be at the MCG by virtue of the usage agreement.

small clubs cant become big clubs when the big clubs hog all the limelight and marquee fixtures. The League has had fixture inequality since the mid 80s.

At least the big Clubs get a say in how the NRL is run.

AFL clubs literally voted these powers to the AFL Commission in 1993 when the AFL board of directors (every clubs reps) was disbanded. The Commission was literally formed because the league was killing itself with club self interest. No club has ever objected to the Commissions format since it was created.

Pete "The Man" V Landys system for NRL is much better than the AFL Commision set up.

Are you actually Peter Vlandys?

 

[The_Wookie]

The AFL is run on the centralised Communist model of the strong giving to the weak with all control given to the centralised Elites who influence the evenness of the competition based on whatever whim they have at the time.

No one should want to see a club go to the wall to protect the interests of big clubs. The league learnt from the Fitzroy experience.

The AFL board make all the decisions on behalf of the Clubs.

No they dont. The clubs have independent boards. The AFL controls board appointments for 5 clubs - Adelaide (until 2029), Port Adelaide, GWS, Gold Coast and Sydney.

Basically, in the AFL, the strong clubs – Essendon, Richmond, Collingwood, and Carlton keep all the other Clubs afloat.

The AFL takes the money from these strong Clubs and gives it to all its other “special projects” like GWS and Gold Coast and basket cases like North Melbourne.

Its not so much taking money from these clubs as it is they just werent allocated it. A deal the clubs agree to.

If a big Club does something wrong i.e. drug or salary cap cheating, they are shunned to the bottom for 10 years with draft and fixture penalties.

This has literally happened twice. To Carlton (salary cap) and Essendon (drugs).

 

[Vlad59]

Thread needs more afl discussion

 

[Maximus]

@AlwaysGreen is going to be very upset when he reads this thread.

 

[Wb1234]

Communism failed abjectively

you shouldn’t be punishing the most sucessful clubs so much to cover for clubs who are failing

the nrl has 17 healthy clubs who all receive the same money

 

[Penrith fan]

No one should want to see a club go to the wall to protect the interests of big clubs. The league learnt from the Fitzroy experience.



No they dont. The clubs have independent boards. The AFL controls board appointments for 5 clubs - Adelaide (until 2029), Port Adelaide, GWS, Gold Coast and Sydney.



Its not so much taking money from these clubs as it is they just werent allocated it. A deal the clubs agree to.



This has literally happened twice. To Carlton (salary cap) and Essendon (drugs).

Yes, WB1234, This is pure Communism.

It's not up to one Club to bolster up another Club.

The Clubs agreed to the deal with a gun to their head. Lol.

And by the way, The Commission controls all AFL policy decisions, and by stealth all Club decisions, the AFL competition and maintains a professional talent pathway for players through the AFL Draft, AFL Draft Combine, AFL Academy and academies through its member clubs and affiliated bodies, Underage Men's and Underage Women's championships, the Australian Football (AFL) the rules, the salary cap, the schedule, the operations of the clubs, It also approves the administration of the Clubs and can ask any Club at any time to please explain any action under threat of fine or expulsion from the league or the penalty of the loss of premiership points.

But enough about fumbleball and its Communist heritage.

Pete "the Man" V landys should be made President of Australia.

Pete is the exact opposite of the AFL Commission

He is a one-man band who helps out everyone and gives of his time, effort, energy to grow our great game n Australia and around the World.

Pete is very careful not to help one NRL Club at the hinderance of another.

He is the opposite of the AFL

And for that WE love him.

 

[BlueandGold]

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The real travesty in that picture is they are watching baseball.

 

[Jamberoo]

This was your original post and its factually incorrect.

''The AFL cap is around $13.5m. AFL distribution is variable. The strong clubs (about half the league) get less than that but the other half get up to double that (Suns, GWS, St Kilda). All up also around $80m - $90m above the cap.''

They do not get money over the cap.

Those same clubs if they turn around the clubs financials will have that same money taken away.

Where as NRL clubs will not have money taken away if they turn around the finances of the business.

So the AFL are not giving out 80-90m over the cap like you claim.

The NRL is giving out that amount and god knows how much is going to grass roots.

2023 NRL 76m a year in grass roots funding + clubs 85m over the cap funding.

2019 NRL 88m a year in grass roots funding.

All in all the angle from some folk in here that the NRL is funding grass roots less than 5 years ago is plain wrong.

I am not sure what you are trying to get at. The question asked was - NRL pays clubs $85m total over the salary cap, how much does the AFL pay?

My answer, that payments to clubs is variable, is correct, and that the total amount at the AFL pays above the salary cap is also correct. Add it up.

I did not mention anything about grass roots, which is looked after by the AFL, not the clubs (aside from NSW and QLD clubs who are allowed to have academies).

 

[Perth Red]

Collingwood get shafted by the AFL, they have no control over their own destiny and have to pay overs to play in a competition where they generate the most money.

At least the big Clubs get a say in how the NRL is run.

Pete "The Man" V Landys system for NRL is much better than the AFL Commision set up.

That is why the NRL are streeting ahead of the AFL in popularity.

Haha now we’re advocating clubs running the league is a good thing?

 

[Perth Red]

Clubs are spending much more on Grassroots funding compared to 5 years ago.

Even the Dolphins have to spend an extra 2m a year on Grassroots across Qld as per the license agreement.

NRL grants 17th club licence to The Dolphins » League Unlimited

leagueunlimited.com

Another myth, that is not being spent on grassroots, it’s money being spent on improving elite pathways.

 

[Perth Red]

Yes the penny has dropped.

The battle is at the grassroots level and in juniors.

Simply the NRL must outspend AFL to win the war.

Money needs to be pumped into support at the kiddie level for the next generations' hearts and minds.

We are so close.

It’s a shame then that their 5 year commitment is less than they funded grassroots in 2019!