Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[BuffaloRules]

That is the concern

Ch9 and other FTA are pushing for exclusive games. Get an extra on FTA 9 games should have atleast 4 FTA a week.

Hopefully that brings an increase without having to add a 2nd pay service

anything is possible for Channel 9 …they just have to pay for it…

I think the NRL is looking for more than a 20 percent increase though ,… they want to match the AFL’s deal !

 

[Iamback]

anything is possible for Channel 9 …they just have to pay for it…

I think the NRL is looking for more than a 20 percent increase though ,… they want to match the AFL’s deal !

I am not just talking ch9 all FTA, other sports they only have it on one network. We should follow suit.

Then the comp stays 27 weeks, AFL got that with adding 9 extra rounds over 7 years. Aswell as another team.

NRL are wanting to reduce the season for more tests, which has merit but the TV figure won't get near the $3b he mentioned

 

[BuffaloRules]

I am not just talking ch9 all FTA, other sports they only have it on one network. We should follow suit.

Then the comp stays 27 weeks, AFL got that with adding 9 extra rounds over 7 years. Aswell as another team.

NRL are wanting to reduce the season for more tests, which has merit but the TV figure won't get near the $3b he mentioned

We’ll see what happens ….neither you nor I have any reason to be saying anything with certainty considering negotiations have not yet begun…. I’m very optimistic though ….. not having to negotiate with News Ltd is a major plus for the NRL this time given Rupert Murdoch’s negative influence previously….

 

[colly]

Abdo has been more active in recent times, appearing on podcasts and the like. His confidence is growing.

I saw a interview where he explained for years the NRL wanted to have a Australian Bank- ADBO worked at it, then the Westpac deal got done!

 

[Iamback]

We’ll see what happens ….neither you nor I have any reason to be saying anything with certainty considering negotiations have not yet begun…. I’m very optimistic though ….. not having to negotiate with News Ltd is a major plus for the NRL this time given Rupert Murdoch’s negative influence previously….

Yeah I am waiting to see the setup before commenting on figures.

I have said many times our last deal was good because it gave the money to expand

AFL's looks good on paper but given TV was given Magic rounds last deal and Stadium upgrades were included. When broken down isn't that outstanding.

For NRL. Season starts too early and if they can do something with Origin and add more tests that is better than potentially maximising tv $ and stay as we are now.

As for Fox moving forward, again that is a wait and see. As to how it looks, Foxtel set top boxes subsidies Kayo.

DAZN until now has shown no interest in that side of it. Also binge, Foxtel go, Kayo and DAZN all streamers seems too much wastage.

So when that is clearer mid season will help to discuss

 

[BuffaloRules]

Yeah I am waiting to see the setup before commenting on figures.

I have said many times our last deal was good because it gave the money to expand

AFL's looks good on paper but given TV was given Magic rounds last deal and Stadium upgrades were included. When broken down isn't that outstanding.

For NRL. Season starts too early and if they can do something with Origin and add more tests that is better than potentially maximising tv $ and stay as we are now.

As for Fox moving forward, again that is a wait and see. As to how it looks, Foxtel set top boxes subsidies Kayo.

DAZN until now has shown no interest in that side of it. Also binge, Foxtel go, Kayo and DAZN all streamers seems too much wastage.

So when that is clearer mid season will help to discuss

Let’s see what happens with the number of games thing … . I Iknow PVL floated playing everyone once only …. But I would be surprised to see this happen this time … it hasn’t been talked about much recently, and the broadcast partners want more content not less ..

also they should want to keep starting the season early to smash the AFL straight out of the blocks with Vegas … why would they be looking to change that strategy? So the season should still run early March through early Oct ..

The timing for DAZN looks terrible ( for them ) …there is no way they can afford to lose their most watched sport having just paid all that money to buy it ….you wouldn’t want to be losing half your subscribers out of the gate

so reasons to be optimistic as I said earlier

 

[Iamback]

Let’s see what happens with the number of games thing … . I Iknow PVL floated playing everyone once only …. But I would be surprised to see this happen this time … it hasn’t been talked about much recently, and the broadcast partners want more content not less ..

also they should want to keep starting the season early to smash the AFL straight out of the blocks with Vegas … why would they be looking to change that strategy? So the season should still run early March through early Oct ..

The timing for DAZN looks terrible ( for them ) …there is no way they can afford to lose their most watched sport having just paid all that money to buy it ….you wouldn’t want to be losing half your subscribers out of the gate

so reasons to be optimistic as I said earlier

I have doubts whether it has actually been looked into. For example Cows should play QLD teams home every year, They are a small market. Not sure clubs like that can cover 2-3 less home games

It is hard because Easter changes each year but ideally you'd go Vegas into Easter Round 2 and really fly out of blocks.

If the International game lifts and can match RU then it won't matter when or how strong AFL start because the 5 or 6 tests at the end of the year and Origin blow any event out of the water

Ashes in cricket aside.

I don't think there is a media company that doesn't want NRL it is cost. HBO loss is the big wait and see

If FTA gets 4-5 games a week exclusive. That leaves the rest in play for Fox/Stan.

That will be a lot cheaper than the full round is and could keep them in play as opposed to finding the extra $100m or so everything would cost

 

[The_Wookie]

Yeah I am waiting to see the setup before commenting on figures.

I have said many times our last deal was good because it gave the money to expand

AFL's looks good on paper but given TV was given Magic rounds last deal and Stadium upgrades were included. When broken down isn't that outstanding.

The AFLs 2023-2024 rights extension was signed in December 2020. Gather Round was not a thing before it was announced in late 2022. Although Marvel work was included in Telstra side of things, the amount of contra in the AFL reports did not increase.

 

[BuffaloRules]

I have doubts whether it has actually been looked into. For example Cows should play QLD teams home every year, They are a small market. Not sure clubs like that can cover 2-3 less home games

It is hard because Easter changes each year but ideally you'd go Vegas into Easter Round 2 and really fly out of blocks.

If the International game lifts and can match RU then it won't matter when or how strong AFL start because the 5 or 6 tests at the end of the year and Origin blow any event out of the water

Ashes in cricket aside.

I don't think there is a media company that doesn't want NRL it is cost. HBO loss is the big wait and see

If FTA gets 4-5 games a week exclusive. That leaves the rest in play for Fox/Stan.

That will be a lot cheaper than the full round is and could keep them in play as opposed to finding the extra $100m or so everything would cost

Until other teams can regularly challenge and beat Australia… the international games are a pipe dream ….until that happens don’t expect much to change in that space

 

[Iamback]

The AFLs 2023-2024 rights extension was signed in December 2020. Gather Round was not a thing before it was announced in late 2022. Although Marvel work was included in Telstra side of things, the amount of contra in the AFL reports did not increase.

Gather round started 2 years before the new deal. Yet the annual reports showed no extra TV money than what was announced?

That is extra content but paid for in this new deal

 

[Wb1234]

Until other teams can regularly challenge and beat Australia… the international games are a pipe dream ….until that happens don’t expect much to change in that space

Pacific cup generated 6.2 million viewers in Australia

Including Fiji v png generating more viewers in Australia than the last bledisloe cup

Kangaroos games getting over a million

The png v pm13 game got over one million viewers in png

Sure it’s not origin but it’s worth something to broadcasters

 

[Iamback]

Until other teams can regularly challenge and beat Australia… the international games are a pipe dream ….until that happens don’t expect much to change in that space

It is the only benefit of PNG is to get them decent for Test footy.

Getting more teams up to NZ standard should be the aim. Atleast tests not involving Australia will be close and great games

 

[BuffaloRules]

Pacific cup generated 6.2 million viewers in Australia

Including Fiji v png generating more viewers in Australia than the last bledisloe cup

Kangaroos games getting over a million

The png v pm13 game got over one million viewers in png

Sure it’s not origin but it’s worth something to broadcasters

So let me ask you the question - do the broadcasters want more internationals at the expense of a shorter NRL season ? I’m not so sure of that …yet …

 

[BuffaloRules]

It is the only benefit of PNG is to get them decent for Test footy.

No ..the main benefit will be them providing more players for the NRL…. Probably at least 10 tough years away though ..,they gotta get more players from somewhere

 

[Wb1234]

So let me ask you the question - do the broadcasters want more internationals at the expense of a shorter NRL season ? I’m not so sure of that …yet …

Nope you’re right

And i agree with what you said about reducing the season length and they prob won’t do it when the realise the impact on the tv deal and ratings

Each round is around 5 million in ratings

 

[Chimp]

Interesting to hear PVL talk about the importance of ensuring access to the game remains affordable as part of the TV deal negotiations - that it’s not all about the revenue from the deal, that the game needs to be accessible to all, he doesn’t want any family not able to afford to watch the game.
That’s a very noble standing point, and points to a fantastic ‘customer’ culture.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

Was great to see the Touch on FTA this year before the All-Stars game and proved to be excellent entertainment when the highest calibre players were involved.

Seems they are really taking this very serious now and can only be good for the game both domestically and overseas.

Touch Football Australia announces new leadership

Touch Football Australia is pleased to announce a new era of leadership, with the appointment of Marcus Ashcroft as CEO and directors Danielle Smith, Sharyn Williams and Brad Fittler.

www.nrl.com

 

[Dark Corner]

Was great to see the Touch on FTA this year before the All-Stars game and proved to be excellent entertainment when the highest calibre players were involved.

Seems they are really taking this very serious now and can only be good for the game both domestically and overseas.

Touch Football Australia announces new leadership

Touch Football Australia is pleased to announce a new era of leadership, with the appointment of Marcus Ashcroft as CEO and directors Danielle Smith, Sharyn Williams and Brad Fittler.

www.nrl.com

Do the NRL own Touch and Tag and why have an AFL guy in top postion ?

 

[Wb1234]

Interesting to hear PVL talk about the importance of ensuring access to the game remains affordable as part of the TV deal negotiations - that it’s not all about the revenue from the deal, that the game needs to be accessible to all, he doesn’t want any family not able to afford to watch the game.
That’s a very noble standing point, and points to a fantastic ‘customer’ culture.

They bought one out

Honestly yhin

Do the NRL own Touch and Tag and why have an AFL guy in top postion ?

 

[Wb1234]

Do the NRL own Touch and Tag and why have an AFL guy in top postion ?

They bought one out a while back

Think the other was theirs

There maybe one other organisation they don’t own