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phil goulds idea

Raider Azz

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phil gould just likes to disagree with the NRL for the sake of it. If the NRL announced that the Storm wouldn't be losing any points then Gould would argue that they should lose their points just for the sake of arguing. He is a bitter agenda driven fool.
 

taxidriver

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every other team spreads out the 4.1 million across 25 players

the proposal to have the storm cut players to get to 4.1 millions stills gives them a decided advantage in that they will only be using that to pay 20 odd players.

less players in the squad but higher quality ones
 

Johns Magic

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every other team spreads out the 4.1 million across 25 players

the proposal to have the storm cut players to get to 4.1 millions stills gives them a decided advantage in that they will only be using that to pay 20 odd players.

less players in the squad but higher quality ones

They obviously have to replace those players to fill the 25
 

ozjet1

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people just think it's a case of getting back under $4.1m and that's it.

WRONG!

the behaviour of the Waldron and other execs in on this at the storm affected every club's negotiations with players in the market. they assembled their premiership teams, runner-up teams and the 2010 team by offering players overs which other teams (as far as we know and must assume until proven otherwise) did not and could not provide.

whether players take paycuts for the rest of the season, or they offload some personnel to get under the cap for the rest of the season, it still does not get around the fact that they kept certain players for this season which other clubs would have otherwise attempted to negotiate with if the storm hadnt illegally offered these players what they did and managed to keep them.

i understand how it affects the competition, but any other approach wouldve perpetuated the unfairness to every club in the competition.

but frankly, keeping the team in the comp this season is farcical. they shouldve eliminated them from the 2010 season. obviously, financial, contractual and representative teams condsiderations prevented this, but every match involving the storm this season will be a joke either way.
 

chrisD

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There's plenty of good reasons why this whole idea is neverland stuff. But consider this, this team was formed by cheating. It shouldn't just be cut back and rearranged a bit here and there and be given the go ahead to start competing again. It should be torn asunder. Its core nucleus of players should be broken. There should be no repeat of the Bulldogs. And the way the NRL have gone is the best way to assure this will be the case.
 

m0nty

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The solution is simple, the Storm pays for them to play at another team this year. And to be fair they can only go to teams who will have the space to pay them from 2011 onwards.
Not a bad idea on face value. But salaries change every year, even if a club can afford a Storm player next year, what if their payment would put them over the cap this year? The rule would have to be that the club would have to fit what the Storm is paying that player in 2010 under their 2010 cap, it's just that they don't pay that salary, the Storm do. Could work.
 

squiddy

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I reckon they should just give Slater Cronk and Inglis to the Sharks and let them play on......

It's a joke OK , we need all the help we can get trust me.
 

mickdo

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Gould should shut the f**k up. f**k the Storm, they cheated and should thank their lucky stars they didn't get kicked out of the comp. Enjoy your zero points you dirty cheats.
 

adams10ella

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It is simple. The players to be dropped from the team, should be those that were paid above the salary cap with the exception of the player who insisted his third party contract was registered under the salary cap.
Regardless of the big names that have to be dropped, so be it. Then you will have the legitimate Melbourne Storm; the team they would have originally been able to field. Doubt that the other teams would have a problem playing the Storm without the big name overpaid guys.
It is unfair to drop players of lower pay just to get under the salary cap. Those that were paid illegally, are the ones to be dropped. Who knows, they may well have extra monies now lol.
 

Quidgybo

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every other team spreads out the 4.1 million across 25 players

the proposal to have the storm cut players to get to 4.1 millions stills gives them a decided advantage in that they will only be using that to pay 20 odd players.

less players in the squad but higher quality ones
Not necessarily. Last year the NRL's minimum wage was $55,000. So using that figure, for each player they cut to get under the cap, they actually need to get another $55k below $4.1m to enable them to still fill a squad of 25. So if they need to cut four players, those cuts actually need to take their expenditure back to no more than $3.88m and then they'd have to fill the four vacated spots with minimum wage players. If they want to fill them with players being paid more than the minimum wage then they need to cut back even further than $3.88m (ie. almost $1m worth of cuts to the current playing squad). Make no mistake, the cuts will need to be savage to make it all balance back to $4.1m with a squad of 25.

Leigh.
 
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