Player welfare and Kalyn Ponga

[Fangs]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-suddenly-drops-concussion-protocol-gamechanger/news-story/30c4242be72a599d68e7ba2ccbcc1845

NRL players will be mandated to miss two rounds of football if they are found to have suffered a concussion.

The Australian Rugby League Commission has confirmed reports it is now aligned with the AFL and world rugby in introducing a mandatory 11-day stand down for concussed players.

The new protocols will be introduced immediately and will be in effect from the start of Round 3.

All players found to be showing symptoms of category one concussions will be stood down for at least 11 days.

Any player who shows signs of having suffered a category two concussion may still be cleared to play without missing a game — if cleared by neurological experts.

 

[Wb1234]

Good move they copied the fumblers and union

nrl coaches will just have to suck it up

 

[Munky]

Not against it but surely they need to put a week between the prelim and GF going forward?

 

[Mr Bean]

Typical NRL. Reactive rather than proactive.
They could have put this change in before round 1.

 

[Slackboy72]

Not against it but surely they need to put a week between the prelim and GF going forward?

Don't worry. I'm sure V'Landys will make sure penriff players will be able to serve their stand-down 5 months after the season ends. You know. So as to not deny the fans. Or whatever.

 

[Wb1234]

Typical NRL. Reactive rather than proactive.
They could have put this change in before round 1.

So two weeks makes the world of difference ?

 

[Mr Bean]

So two weeks makes the world of difference ?

Should have been done in the pre-season.

 

[Saxon]

NRL players will be mandated to miss two rounds of football if they are found to have suffered a concussion.

Not quite accurate.
The Australian Rugby League Commission has confirmed reports it is ... introducing a mandatory 11-day stand down for concussed players.
11 days is ony 2 rounds if you play and get knocked out on a Sunday and your round-after-next game is a Thursday

 

[angak888]

Not quite accurate.
The Australian Rugby League Commission has confirmed reports it is ... introducing a mandatory 11-day stand down for concussed players.
11 days is ony 2 rounds if you play and get knocked out on a Sunday and your round-after-next game is a Thursday

This is correct.

Most players will only miss one game.

ARLC had no choice. The AFL is getting done left & right with class actions and lawsuits around this issue. I suspect similar legal issues will arise in RL in the coming months & years.

 

[Fangs]

Not quite accurate.
The Australian Rugby League Commission has confirmed reports it is ... introducing a mandatory 11-day stand down for concussed players.
11 days is ony 2 rounds if you play and get knocked out on a Sunday and your round-after-next game is a Thursday

Thats News.com for you.

And no, I won't be changing where I get my news. I have to keep up to date with Selena Gomesz and her most recent faux paus that has twitter users in a frenzy.

 

[lockyno1]

I don't know how I feel about that. At what point do we stop treating adults like adults? The players know the risks. It should remain their choice.

So let’s just let them all get dementia post football. No. Some mechanisms should be in place and this is a fair compromise. If that means a player misses a GF so be it, it may save him down the track

 

[Ruby Roundhouse]

there are tonnes of randomised studies that show the same result. CTE in randomised samples of athletes sit in the 10-20%, and in the general population around the 5-10% mark.

if the rates of CTE were as high as the idiotic 90+% claims we’d have thousands of examples of ex-league players to point to today. Instead we see that going through the great rosters of the 80s there are 1-2 players in each team that are in a bad way, and the rest are ok.

as an example, Mario gets mentioned a tonne when these things come up. How many of his Souths team mates are also suffering from CTE?

Evaluation of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy in Football Players

This case series investigated the neuropathological and clinical features of deceased football players with chronic traumatic encephalopathy whose brains were donated for research.

jamanetwork.com

The study in question was conducted by Dr. Ann McKee and her colleagues at Boston University, and it was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 2017. The study analysed the brains of 202 deceased individuals who had played football at various levels, including 111 former NFL players. Of the 111 NFL players, 110 (99%) had evidence of CTE upon postmortem examination.

 

[nick87]

The people who are saying that CTE is being overblown are the same sort of people that said the same about smoking many years ago.

 

[Someguy]

Ramifications for origin will be interesting. How many coaches will want their players involved given the rules are a little looser. IIRC Clearly received minimal punishment for the hit that started Pongas run of head injuries.

 

[Danish]

The people who are saying that CTE is being overblown are the same sort of people that said the same about smoking many years ago.

Except you are statistically as likely to get CTE from contact sports as you are to NOT get cancer from smoking, even taken at the 20% absolute high end

 

[nick87]

Except you are statistically as likely to get CTE from contact sports as you are to NOT get cancer from smoking, even taken at the 20% absolute high end

According to numbers based exactly one single study you've cited, which has a number of issues with methodolgy and there is a shit ton of studies that suggest more serious ramifications.

We're in the infancy of understand head injuries... we dont even know what we dont know and what little we do know it very troubling. This is exactly as the smoking studies where. There were studies that concluded that concerns around smoking were overblown too based on flawed processes... they were wrong. Egregiously so.

We've got a long way to go on understanding this and if you think its going to get better and not worse... well you're one of the people im talking about. History will not on your side. Of that im very confident of.

 

[Danish]

According to numbers based exactly one single study you've cited, which has a number of issues with methodolgy and there is a shit ton of studies that suggest more serious ramifications.

We're in the infancy of understand head injuries... we dont even know what we dont know and what little we do know it very troubling. This is exactly as the smoking studies where. There were studies that concluded that concerns around smoking were overblown too based on flawed processes... they were wrong. Egregiously so.

We've got a long way to go on understanding this and if you think it’s going to get better and not worse... well you're one of the people im talking about. History will not on your side. Of that im very confident of.

but the 99% risk CTE study is infallible, I’m sure…

we know what we can observe in the retired sportsman population, and those observations simply do not bear out to the ridiculously high numbers people claim CTE to occur.

by their logic most of the players from the 70s and 80s NSWRL era that are alive today should be mentally f**ked, and that is just not the case

 

[Wb1234]

This will explode the minute a high profile player misses origin or a grand final

 

[Danish]

This will explode the minute a high profile player misses origin or a grand final

Well the raiders better hope they don’t get any cat 1 knocks in round 12, as they play 2 games in the ensuing 11 days from that one.

can only assume anyone guaranteed a top 4 or top 8 spot will rest the entire 17 for the last round too

 

[Wb1234]

Well the raiders better hope they don’t get any cat 1 knocks in round 12, as they play 2 games in the ensuing 11 days from that one.

can only assume anyone guaranteed a top 4 or top 8 spot will rest the entire 17 for the last round too

I can’t wait for a prelim final and this happens