Knuckle-dragger
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Thought-provoking and educating thread.
Changed my mind on a few matters.
Changed my mind on a few matters.
I was taught literally zero about indigenous culture at school.
The only things I recall were
King from the Burke and wills expedition being saved by the indigenous.
Maybe Buckley the convict had contact when he went on the run.
Haha wot
...its taking away from it now.
You're like the lesbian version of John LennonNational anthems are meaningless,patriotism is embarrassing,all countries on the planet are as equally useless and overrated as one another
Obviously Aus. is not a young or a new piece of land, it hasn't just popped up from the sea. Scott Quinnell called the US and Australia "new" countries a few yrs ago, i took offence at what he said, but i didn't write into Sky to complain, Quinnell's heart is in the right place, just that he's a bit thick.
You do know that continents aren't countries right? The land we now call Australia was not called Australia during the 40,000 years before British settlement.
Imagine taking offence at someone calling Australia a new country jesus christ
You do know that continents aren't countries right? The land we now call Australia was not called Australia during the 40,000 years before British settlement.
Imagine taking offence at someone calling Australia a new country jesus christ
You're missing the point. When people say "young" or "new", they are ignoring the countless generations that came before.You do know that continents aren't countries right? The land we now call Australia was not called Australia during the 40,000 years before British settlement.
Imagine taking offence at someone calling Australia a new country jesus christ
but our indigenous are treated worse than every other former british colony, including US and Canada.
Sometimes it's an honest mistake. Unfortunately media outlets do very little to set the record straight.Obviously Aus. is not a young or a new piece of land, it hasn't just popped up from the sea. Scott Quinnell called the US and Australia "new" countries a few yrs ago, i took offence at what he said, but i didn't write into Sky to complain, Quinnell's heart is in the right place, just that he's a bit thick.
What I find disappointing is the number of people who know and just don't care! The it's not offensive brigade.Thanks to these players, there are now more people who are aware that this is an issue, when previously they may have been blissfully unaware.
As the AFL crows, rugby league works quietly on Indigenous excellence
Roy Masters
June 10, 2019 — 4.00pm
The AFL rarely apologises. It does boasting better, citing its big crowds and capital city TV ratings (minus the regional figures) as evidence of its national popularity, or its stand on gay marriage, humane treatment of refugees and women's football as demonstrating its commitment to social change.
Last week’s apology for the treatment of Swans player Adam Goodes, coming hours prior to the world premiere of the documentary,The Final Quarter, was a half decade too late. However, it was a significant mea culpa, considering the huge government grants the code has received for its promotion of social inclusiveness, including funds for support of Indigenous players and their culture.
But the time difference between the national booing of Goodes, a double Brownlow medallist, and the apology, together with past undelivered, or attempted ventures, invite questions on AFL motives for Indigenous support.
Somehow, the justified boast that Australian football is Australia’s indigenous (as in original) game has been insinuated into Australia’s Indigenous game, as evidenced by Monday’s comment from Collingwood chairman, Eddie McGuire: “The treatment of Adam challenges us, and our right to be considered Australia’s Indigenous football code.”
Rugby league has always been a Koori sport but the AFL has always been better at using its false boast as a lever to gain public funding.
Compare the big noise AFL makes about support for First Nations people to the NRL reaction when Indigenous superstars refused to sing the national anthem at the State of Origin match. No big deal was made, aware it would be a breach of rugby league’s social contract with its Aboriginal players.
Consider the differences between the codes with the Clontarf Foundation, an organisation which uses sport to encourage young Aboriginal kids to attend school, funded a third each by state and federal governments and corporations.
The program was begun by Gerard Neesham, a teacher, shortly after he was sacked as inaugural coach of the Fremantle Dockers. It became so successful in Western Australia, the AFL sought to take it over and badge it as their own. However, Neesham knew the project would never gain traction in NSW where rugby league was dominant. He sought the assistance of the NSWRL, which cooperated without demanding acknowledgement.
Nor has the NSWRL interfered with the annual Koori knockout, a 50-year-old competition held in NSW and run exclusively by Indigenous leaders.
While both the AFL and NRL stage an annual Indigenous round in their respective competitions, rugby league can demonstrate commitment where it counts: appointing Indigenous people to leadership positions.
It was the first football code in Australia to select an Aboriginal player in a national team when Lionel Morgan became a Kangaroo in 1960, eight years before he was counted in the population.
Arthur Beetson was appointed Australian captain five years after the constitutional change.
Until last year, the opposing coaches of the code’s jewel, State of Origin, were Indigenous: NSW’s Laurie Daley and Queensland’s Mal Meninga.
Two Aboriginal captains led their teams in the NRL grand final in 2015 when Justin Hodges’ Broncos were defeated by Johnathan Thurston’s Cowboys. On that same day the two captains of the curtain raiser game were Aboriginal.
Thurston, awarded an AM on Monday, is a four-time winner of the Dally M medal.
When the ARL Commission was inaugurated, an Indigenous man, Dr Chris Sarra, was appointed.
The ARL Indigenous Council was established to provide strategic advice to the NRL leadership team and the board.
Reconciliation week showed how far the game has come on the advancement of Indigenous participation. The NRL was the first national sporting organisation to develop a Reconciliation Action Plan in 2008 and followed up last year, being the first to sign an Elevate RAP.
In 2009, the NRL joined Oxfam to deliver the Close the Gap campaign to raise awareness of health inequality and the gap in life expectancy. In 2010, the All Stars fixture began at a time more than half the national team was Indigenous.
Recently, the NRL signed up to the RECOGNISE campaign and was an inaugural supporter of the Uluru Statement From the Heart.
The code has backed its focus on the advancement and recognition of Indigenous Australia’s contribution to the game by its own employment practices.
A number of years ago the NRL set about employing more Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander staff. Now, 51 people or close to eight per cent of its workforce are Indigenous, while 12 per cent of players are Indigenous.
With rugby league, the debate isn’t about Indigenous disadvantage but Indigenous excellence.
What I find disappointing is the number of people who know and just don't care! The it's not offensive brigade.
Yep. A relation of mine is connected to an island in the gulf. The big one.For those of us that work and live in Indigenous Communities, the most disappointing thing i find, is the people who protest Australia Day or boycott the anthem are always quiet when it comes to the horrendous abuse of women and children in Indigenous Communities, the amount of children walking around with STDs or the fact that every youth in detention in the Northern Territory is Indigenous.
Personally I think a lot of protests or boycotts are just people who are building their own brand or white people who’ve never left their air conditioning office and their only real interaction with Indigenous people is watching Walker or Inglis on TV. These people aren’t ready to know what really goes on in Indigenous Communities.
So will this all get rehashed for SOO 2&3 or be just like the change the date stuff and only be relevant on the agenda for 1 occasion every 12 months?
Nonsense.For those of us that work and live in Indigenous Communities, the most disappointing thing i find, is the people who protest Australia Day or boycott the anthem are always quiet when it comes to the horrendous abuse of women and children in Indigenous Communities, the amount of children walking around with STDs or the fact that every youth in detention in the Northern Territory is Indigenous.
Personally I think a lot of protests or boycotts are just people who are building their own brand or white people who’ve never left their air conditioning office and their only real interaction with Indigenous people is watching Walker or Inglis on TV. These people aren’t ready to know what really goes on in Indigenous Communities.
Nice article in the Sydney Morning Herald by Roy Masters -
Certainly isn't.Mal Meninga isn't Indigenous though.