PNG's back.

[Babyface O'reilly]

Why do you think PNG will provide players quicker than Perth?

PNG doesn’t have a rival code that’s number one in hearts and minds of the population sucking up talent, I’d guess.

 

[Bukowski]

PNG doesn’t have a rival code that’s number one in hearts and minds of the population sucking up talent, I’d guess.

Neither does Perth. Not many Polynesians playing AFL here. Lots playing union and league though.

 

[Iamback]

I don't know but I'm sure that would be looked at if a team came in.
I'm sure the 4k playing numbers would have a greater success at going on to be an NRL player than the numbers of players in Port Moresby who have poor health and nutrition.

I have no doubt it will but that is an example of the sort of stuff needed.

The 4k in isolation doesn't mean anything,

Take out those under say 12
Those over 18 also - as they will be too old

That is the potential player pool, There could be others in a different sport though and that is why school teams are important. Allows them to play multiple sports

 

[Wb1234]

if you think a cairns based PNG team isnt going to be at least 75% full of australians and kiwis youre kidding yourself.
Dolphins have and continue to poach players from existing pools, it will be many years before we see them full of Moreton Bay region players. Thast the reality of any new club.

no team will ever be full of locals

the difference with the dolphins is they will grow juniors meaningfully Perth won’t

not in our lifetimes

 

[Bukowski]

I have no doubt it will but that is an example of the sort of stuff needed.

The 4k in isolation doesn't mean anything,

Take out those under say 12
Those over 18 also - as they will be too old

That is the potential player pool, There could be others in a different sport though and that is why school teams are important. Allows them to play multiple sports

What's the school programs in Port Moreby like?

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Neither does Perth. Not many Polynesians playing AFL here. Lots playing union and league though.

Are there? Didn’t know, mining brought them over? Why did rugby fail?

 

[MugaB]

It will take at least a decade though for those systems to be in place and producing players. I agree they have a head start on perth in pure numbers alone but arguably the Jnr systems are actually more developed in perth (well was till SG Ball was closed down) than in PNG. Its a huge step to take kids running around fields in barefoot to NRL level and will take many years and lots of grassroots investment.

What are you talking about? Sgball? Hunters are in the qcup, there's a digicel cup comp that has clubs that would rival some of the reserve or massey cup sides... perth sgball side couldn't even win one match, your perception is lopsided...
As for a new club poaching talent, as long as they are able to give back then its give and take, a city like perth won't be giving back for minimum a decade

 

[Iamback]

It will take at least a decade though for those systems to be in place and producing players. I agree they have a head start on perth in pure numbers alone but arguably the Jnr systems are actually more developed in perth (well was till SG Ball was closed down) than in PNG. Its a huge step to take kids running around fields in barefoot to NRL level and will take many years and lots of grassroots investment.

Correct, So can add another 5-10 years after that 10 to get a crop of meaningful players... if players can't be enticed across in the meantime?

Say a decade of 12-18 place finishes, In that time Perth 3 will be AFL team 20.

How much support is that shit Perth NRL side getting?

Again. I am not saying no to a side but that is the risks with a Perth side. As with all locations there is risk

 

[Bukowski]

Are there? Didn’t know, mining brought them over? Why did rugby fail?

Why has rugby failed in Sydney, Brisbane and the rest of Australia? I don't know why but we should be taking advantage.

 

[Wb1234]

What are you talking about? Sgball? Hunters are in the qcup, there's a digicel cup comp that has clubs that would rival some of the reserve or massey cup sides... perth sgball side couldn't even win one match, your perception is lopsided...
As for a new club poaching talent, as long as they are able to give back then its give and take, a city like perth won't be giving back for minimum a decade

50 years minimum

20 years maybe produce one first grader a year

 

[MugaB]

no team will ever be full of locals

the difference with the dolphins is they will grow juniors meaningfully Perth won’t

not in our lifetimes

Yes they will, just not for atleast a decade after they have a licence

 

[Bukowski]

What are you talking about? Sgball? Hunters are in the qcup, there's a digicel cup comp that has clubs that would rival some of the reserve

Why aren't there png players coming thorough the NRL then?

 

[Wb1234]

Yes they will, just not for atleast a decade after they have a licence

50 years to generate a decent amount of nrl players each year

ten years maybe produce one nrl player a year (tops)

 

[MugaB]

Why has rugby failed in Sydney, Brisbane and the rest of Australia? I don't know why but we should be taking advantage.

Population in Australia, plus rugby is a rigid sport, too many fickle rules, not exactly fun... the only draw card was the wallabies, now theyre pretty underwhelming... its basically on life support, especially after eddie jones got the flick

 

[Iamback]

What's the school programs in Port Moreby like?

Struggles at the elite level but Rugby League is mandatory to be played in all schools.

Kids dropping out of school early hinders that. Paying kids like we do elite kids here will help.

 

[Perth Red]

I have no doubt it will but that is an example of the sort of stuff needed.

The 4k in isolation doesn't mean anything,

Take out those under say 12
Those over 18 also - as they will be too old

That is the potential player pool, There could be others in a different sport though and that is why school teams are important. Allows them to play multiple sports

NRLWA runs a number of school programs from participation events, nines through to a full SHS competition with RL scholarships

Schools - NRL WA

NRL WA offers schools a variety of programs and events for all abilities and year levels. A brief outline of our popular programs can be seen below. High School CompetitionsOur High School Competitions range from one-day events, to fortnightly competitions, for schools and students to compete...

nrlwa.com.au

 

[MugaB]

Why aren't there png players coming thorough the NRL then?

No direct pathway, just like Perth or Adelaide, dolphins did start taking 3 png juniors into their squad this season, i think thats a start

 

[Wb1234]

No direct pathway, just like Perth or Adelaide, dolphins did start taking 3 png juniors into their squad this season, i think thats a start

Something like ten png players over in England too

 

[Iamback]

Like most of PNG theres no data so who knows? Always take Wiki with a pinch of salt but it claims there are 5000 registered JNrs in PNG.

That is kids 12-18

 

[Perth Red]

no team will ever be full of locals

the difference with the dolphins is they will grow juniors meaningfully Perth won’t

not in our lifetimes

what does 'meaningfully' mean int his context?

In the short life of the Reds we had already seen a massive uptake in participation and a really strong U19's NSWRL team coming through. On the smell of an oily rag our Pirates SG Ball program has started to develop players who went on to second tier and some on to NRL or SL level.

I have no doubt PNG and WA can produce NRl players with the right investment, systems and pathways in place. Its really strange to think either couldnt.