PNG's back.

[Wb1234]

Are they. I think the fumblers forcing a multi million dollar stadium on a small state like Tasmania is pathetic and the federal government essentially supporting is even worse.

But it’s happening

so one billion for afl and zero for rugby league is what many on this forum want lol

 

[Canard]

You want the ARLC to waste hundreds of millions of dollars propping up unwanted teams in Adelaide and Perth.

You hate it when rugby league is successful in Brisbane and Sydney. Especially when it's a traditional BRL club succeeding in ways that put the parasitic Melbourne Storm to shame. Dolphins 32k averaged at Lang Park in their first season. Storm's best ever season drew a lousy 17k average at MRS. Raiders are a pissant compared to the Dolphins.

This post is used as an example of a strawman argument on Dictionary.com

 

[Canard]

But it’s happening

so one billion for afl and zero for rugby league is what many on this forum want lol

The Feds have committed to $250M for Mac point, and not a cent more.

Even then I'm against it.

 

[mongoose]

This post is used as an example of a strawman argument on Dictionary.com

nah he's right. I just hate it when League is successful in Sydney and Brisbane, fills with me rage. I want it to die in these cities and only grow in Perth and Adelaide, because that would make so much sense.

 

[Maximus]

Did you ever think

Could have stopped there.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

nah he's right. I just hate it when League is successful in Sydney and Brisbane, fills with me rage. I want it to die in these cities and only grow in Perth and Adelaide, because that would make so much sense.

You want traditional BRL clubs like the Brisbane Tigers to die.

 

[The Great Dane]

You want the ARLC to waste hundreds of millions of dollars propping up unwanted teams in Adelaide and Perth.

You hate it when rugby league is successful in Brisbane and Sydney. Especially when it's a traditional BRL club succeeding in ways that put the parasitic Melbourne Storm to shame. Dolphins 32k averaged at Lang Park in their first season. Storm's best ever season drew a lousy 17k average at MRS. Raiders are a pissant compared to the Dolphins.

That's so pathetically pitiful that it's almost endearing in a weird way.

 

[The Great Dane]

How is developing rugby league in png not to the benefit of the nrl

via increased nrl players and more money from test match rugby league

just imagine back to when you fell In love with John ribots vision for rugby league in China and carry that to png

It would be a benefit if they were talking about doing it in a sustainable manner, but they're not, and it isn't.

Any investment in junior development in PNG would be reliant on the Australian taxpayer funding it. Any pathways that were developed would die as soon as that source of funding was taken away, and it'd only be a matter of time before that funding was cut.

The government, and NRL for that matter, hasn't addressed how they'd deal with the rampant corruption issues in PNG, which would see significant amounts of that funding disappear before they'd even started. Nor have they explained why this team and pathways will be any more successful than the Hunters who have existed for a decade and produced only a single solid NRL player.

They haven't contended with the moral implications of spending such enormous amounts of money underwriting the operations of a professional football team in a nation where most people are subsistence farmers without access to clean water either, and it's extremely tone deaf to be spending that kind of money on such trivial things internationally at a time when we're going through the worst cost of living crisis in generations and younger generations of Australians futures have basically been sacrificed for political and corporate gain.

 

[The Great Dane]

I don’t disagree with you but if there’s a positive, I’m loving the fact that for the first time in my life or perhaps ever, we finally have a seat at the big boys table in the corridors of power while the other two codes are seated at the kids table and we have the prime minister’s ear no less! Whether or not we’re smart enough to work this opportunity to our advantage is another matter but I’m not gonna let that spoil my enjoyment for now. Best off season in years!

LOL, no, just no.

What we know of the talk by the serious players at the federal level about funding a potential NRL side in PNG has happened in spite of the NRL in the assumption that they'd just play along with the governments demands. There's been no serious dialogue that's included incentives for the NRL to participate, nor has the NRL proposed any, just the running assumption that the NRL will play along and like it.

Meanwhile in the same time period the AFL has secured the commitment to hundreds of millions of dollars in funding for programs and infrastructure that will actually benefit and produce a return for them in the mid-long term.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's so pathetically pitiful that it's almost endearing in a weird way.

Everything I said is a fact. Dolphins drew an average of 32k at Lang Park. Storm and Raiders get a little over half of that in a good year.

 

[Canard]

The Storm averaged 23k at Docklands in 2023, the Dolphins averaged 10k at Dolphin Stadium

 

[TheEroticGamer]

You want traditional BRL clubs like the Brisbane Tigers to die.

If it means we’ll stop hearing about their dumb ass playing in Suncorp, training in Coorparoo but repping Ipswich bid then thank f*ck.

 

[The Great Dane]

Everything I said is a fact. Dolphins drew an average of 32k at Lang Park. Storm and Raiders get a little over half of that in a good year.

The real question is what relevance does any of it have to PNG or the article I was reacting to?!

You're so single-mindedly obsessed with Brisbane that you clog up ever single thread trying to twist every discussion into a debate about it. Not only does it say a lot about your mindset, and frankly ignorance of the world outside of the outer suburbs of Brisbane, but it's obnoxious and pathetic. Furthermore your reliance on blatantly misrepresenting people and prescribing them with positions they don't hold in attempts to bait them into changing the topic is beyond tiresome.

If you want to talk about this stuff that's fine, but personally I don't care about your pet obsession with a minor league that failed over 30 years ago. I don't care about your obsession with trying to effectively revive it and relive the glory days (that were never that glorious to begin with) through what effectively amounts to a hostile take over of the NRL. I'm not really interested in endlessly going round in circles discussing/debating it, nor do I take you or your opinions on the matter, or many other matters, particularly seriously.

So yeah, either go discuss it somewhere else that's more appropriate with somebody else that cares to participate, or give it a f**king rest and try engaging with the discussion at hand.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The real question is what relevance does any of it have to PNG or the article I was reacting to?!

You're so single-mindedly obsessed with Brisbane that you clog up ever single thread trying to twist every discussion into a debate about it. Not only does it say a lot about your mindset, and frankly ignorance of the world outside of the outer suburbs of Brisbane, but it's obnoxious and pathetic. Furthermore your reliance on blatantly misrepresenting people and prescribing them with positions they don't hold in attempts to bait them into changing the topic is beyond tiresome.

If you want to talk about this stuff that's fine, but personally I don't care about your pet obsession with a minor league that failed over 30 years ago. I don't care about your obsession with trying to effectively revive it and relive the glory days (that were never that glorious to begin with) through what effectively amounts to a hostile take over of the NRL. I'm not really interested in endlessly going round in circles discussing/debating it, nor do I take you or your opinions on the matter, or many other matters, particularly seriously.

So yeah, either go discuss it somewhere else that's more appropriate with somebody else that cares to participate, or give it a f**king rest and try engaging with the discussion at hand.

How can anyone take you seriously after you claimed the Dolphins failed miserably on all metrics?

The Dolphins are the second largest rugby league club in the world.

Adelaide and Perth don't have teams because they're worthless markets.

PNG is ahead of Adelaide and Perth.

Deal with it.

In what universe would a second BRL club entering the NRL be a "hostile takeover"?

It's downright crazy to equate a second BRL club entering the NRL as a "hostile takeover". You of all people aren't in any position to call anyone obnoxious. You've been obnoxiously arguing against everything rational for years because you're bitter and need to be the centre of attention.

 

[Nutz]

Putting people on ignore makes the forum a lot easier to deal with

I’ve had people on ignore for close to a year and they still respond to my posts or quote me from a year ago

the issue when you block is they still get to see your posts. It should be like blocking on social media where they can’t see your posts

Is there a way of installing an add-on to the LU software that detects trolls and blocks them straightaway. Also it makes the LU app to shutdown on the users phone if they continually post off topic.
Now that would be a great investment.
The only problem with that is there would only be the mods left to chat amongst themselves.

 

[Canard]

Seemed like the media, in particular, went all in on PNG.

Given the current state of the economy it would be a very brave PM that proposes this sort of aid for what amounts to an elite few (mostly Australians and Kiwis). And in my opinion, this is all but over as a concept (for at least the term of this government anyway).

Now that this bid is dead in the water, what are the next steps for the NRL?

 

[Perth Red]

Seemed like the media, in particular, went all in on PNG.

Given the current state of the economy it would be a very brave PM that proposes this sort of aid for what amounts to an elite few (mostly Australians and Kiwis). And in my opinion, this is all be over as a concept (for at least the term of this government anyway).

Now that this bid is dead in the water, what are the next steps for the NRL?

Depends how much press it’d actually get. They just gave a few mill to prop up the union fiji team And it never got a mention. I get the money and profile is much larger on this but other than good old fitz who else is going to be ctitical in the media?
Vlad has bought the media favours and will be calling them in for sure To spin this as nrl saving the poor people of png. I’m not sure it will be the political hot potato you think?

 

[Canard]

Depends how much press it’d actually get. They just gave a few mill to prop up the union fiji team And it never got a mention. I get the money and profile is much larger on this but other than good old fitz who else is going to be ctitical in the media?
Vlad has bought the media favours and will be calling them in for sure To spin this as nrl saving the poor people of png. I’m not sure it will be the political hot potato you think?

I think you are extremely naïve. Look at the coverage, players who run foul of the law get even years after they retire.

Rugby would be happy for any press, good or bad, and any press they get is off the back of League lately anyway.

Luckily for all of us, its a dead duck at the moment.

 

[Perth Red]

I think you are extremely naïve. Look at the coverage, players who run foul of the law get even years after they retire.

Rugby would be happy for any press, good or bad, and any press they get is off the back of League lately anyway.

Luckily for all of us, its a dead duck at the moment.

why? What paper is going to write negative stories about it? So far we have only heard one slightly dissenting voice, Webster, and even his was toned down. I think you underestimate how Vlandys is using the sweet tv deal he gave news ltd and ch9 to manipulate the media. I mean he signed a tv deal costing the game hundreds of millions and only one journo questioned it, and soon shut up about it. Half the RL public are questioning the point of Vegas, yet not one story questioning it. And so it goes on. Unless the papers have it in for Labor I doubt its getting much negative airtime when the deal is done, if its done.

 

[Canard]

Unless the papers have it in for Labor I doubt its getting much negative airtime when the deal is done, if its done.

Yes there are no papers in Australia that have it in for Labor at the moment.

And there is no way Dutton would play wedge politics to get his own way.

You are off with the fairies mate, Pete has control of the News Ltd sports section, but not its political coverage.

When Vegas fails to live up to the hype, the media tide will turn, and turn quickly.