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Perth Red

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Yes there are no papers in Australia that have it in for Labor at the moment.

And there is no way Dutton would play wedge politics to get his own way.

You are off with the fairies mate, Pete has control of the News Ltd sports section, but not its political coverage.

When Vegas fails to live up to the hype, the media tide will turn, and turn quickly.
I think you underestimate how much favour those sweet sweet tv deals has bought him.
 

The Great Dane

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Yes there are no papers in Australia that have it in for Labor at the moment.

And there is no way Dutton would play wedge politics to get his own way.

You are off with the fairies mate, Pete has control of the News Ltd sports section, but not its political coverage.

When Vegas fails to live up to the hype, the media tide will turn, and turn quickly.
The media's never held PVL to account before, and he's f**ked up way worse than that in the past...

It's way too early to tell whether or not Vegas will be a failure though. You'd kind of expect the NRL to lose their ass on the first year or two, so until then they'll get a pass mark so long as Vegas doesn't enact a get out clause or pull out of the deal.

They've definitely made some huge mistakes though. Not planning ahead to make sure that Rusty and Jackman were able to attend before booking the Rabbitohs and Sea Eagles was an impressive level of incompetence even for them.
 

Wb1234

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The media's never held PVL to account before, and he's f**ked up way worse than that in the past...

It's way too early to tell whether or not Vegas will be a failure though. You'd kind of expect the NRL to lose their ass on the first year or two, so until then they'll get a pass mark so long as Vegas doesn't enact a get out clause or pull out of the deal.

They've definitely made some huge mistakes though. Not planning ahead to make sure that Rusty and Jackman were able to attend before booking the Rabbitohs and Sea Eagles was an impressive level of incompetence even for them.
Yep his decision to bring in the dolphins has been a disaster

you were correct
 

The Great Dane

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Strawman, no one said itd be a disaster, just that dolphins wouldn’t be the brisbane2 the city needed. Which has been very much proven by the instant demand for brisbane3 as apparently no one south of river wants to support dolphins.
Which, by the way, was one of the things I actually predicted would happen.
 

Wb1234

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Strawman, no one said itd be a disaster, just that dolphins wouldn’t be the brisbane2 the city needed. Which has been very much proven by the instant demand for brisbane3 as apparently no one south of river wants to support dolphins.
Broncos profits up 80 percent with the Addition of a second brisbane team

dolphins on their way to being the biggest rugby league club on earth

you said brisbane was already covered and didn’t need a team

lmao
 
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Yep his decision to bring in the dolphins has been a disaster

you were correct

I made a post about his bizarre position on the Dolphins.

 
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Strawman, no one said itd be a disaster, just that dolphins wouldn’t be the brisbane2 the city needed. Which has been very much proven by the instant demand for brisbane3 as apparently no one south of river wants to support dolphins.


You did say this on Feb 20 2020:

Using a brl brand is just going to put offside the grassroots support for a second club that isn’t keen on the broncos. Unless the new club is going to be largely reliant on pokie revenue from a LC then it has to have a broad enough appeal to get 25k members and 20k plus crowds if it has any hope of competing against the biggest club in RL on its doorstep. It’s best, and probably only hope is to either be a broncos city wide clone or a strong regional population identity. Calling it North Brisbane something’s but owned by Redcliffe playing out of Suncorp or a South Queensland something owned by Ipswich etc.

this requirement to still be reliant on LC’s rather than the nrl supporting the growth remains the biggest difference to afl expansion model and why we will always struggle to move beyond our traditional boundaries.



Dolphins drew 30k members with an average attendance of 32k at Lang Park. They're a traditional BRL club. You predicted they wouldn't be able to to draw 25k members and an average attendance of 20k unless they were based out of Lang Park as a Broncos clone or under the name North Brisbane.
 

Perth Red

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You did say this on Feb 20 2020:

Using a brl brand is just going to put offside the grassroots support for a second club that isn’t keen on the broncos. Unless the new club is going to be largely reliant on pokie revenue from a LC then it has to have a broad enough appeal to get 25k members and 20k plus crowds if it has any hope of competing against the biggest club in RL on its doorstep. It’s best, and probably only hope is to either be a broncos city wide clone or a strong regional population identity. Calling it North Brisbane something’s but owned by Redcliffe playing out of Suncorp or a South Queensland something owned by Ipswich etc.
this requirement to still be reliant on LC’s rather than the nrl supporting the growth remains the biggest difference to afl expansion model and why we will always struggle to move beyond our traditional boundaries.

Dolphins drew 30k members with an average attendance of 32k at Lang Park. They're a traditional BRL club. You predicted they wouldn't be able to to draw 25k members and an average attendance of 20k unless they were based out of Lang Park as a Broncos clone or under the name North Brisbane.
They avg’d 25k and made their memberships look good by offering a 1 game membership cheaper than the gate ticket lol. and I was right, not being a Brisbane wide club has meant, according to you, that non broncos rl fans south of the river won’t follow them. But that ship has sailed and can be put down to yet another poor Vlandys decision.
 
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They avg’d 25k and made their memberships look good by offering a 1 game membership cheaper than the gate ticket lol. and I was right, not being a Brisbane wide club has meant, according to you, that non broncos rl fans south of the river won’t follow them. But that ship has sailed and can be put down to yet another poor Vlandys decision.

Now you're being disingenuous.

You know that the Dolphins played a few games at a ground that has a capacity of 11.5k. That lowered their overall average. The games they played at Lang Park -- wasn't it 7 or 8? -- proves there is more than 30k people in the greater Brisbane area willing to actively support the Dolphins brand. You and The Great Dane argued they would have limited support because they were a BRL club. That means the pair of you have been proven wrong.

I was mocked in 2020 for saying BRL clubs had strong brand value and would thrive in the NRL. It looks like I was right and all the smartarses who called me delusional were wrong. It's a very satisfying feeling to see all of the arrogant and obnoxious know-it-alls pretending they never predicted doom and gloom in 2020.

I can never take anything that you, Dane or mongoose say about expansion in Brisbane seriously because all three of you have been well and truly repudiated by reality. That's something the three of you will have to live with for the rest of your lives.
 

TheEroticGamer

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Dolphins should play all their games at Suncorp. A 2nd Brisbane team in theory was never small enough to move some home games away and the numbers prove that in practice as well.
 

Canard

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I'm sorry, but people are dreaming if they think V'landys has enough power that he can influence the media to not criticise Albo's policies or spending decisions.
 

Wb1234

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Now you're being disingenuous.

You know that the Dolphins played a few games at a ground that has a capacity of 11.5k. That lowered their overall average. The games they played at Lang Park -- wasn't it 7 or 8? -- proves there is more than 30k people in the greater Brisbane area willing to actively support the Dolphins brand. You and The Great Dane argued they would have limited support because they were a BRL club. That means the pair of you have been proven wrong.

I was mocked in 2020 for saying BRL clubs had strong brand value and would thrive in the NRL. It looks like I was right and all the smartarses who called me delusional were wrong. It's a very satisfying feeling to see all of the arrogant and obnoxious know-it-alls pretending they never predicted doom and gloom in 2020.

I can never take anything that you, Dane or mongoose say about expansion in Brisbane seriously because all three of you have been well and truly repudiated by reality. That's something the three of you will have to live with for the rest of your lives.
Fair calll about the value of the brl clubs

can’t remember anybody saying you were right

and you were
 

MugaB

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Strawman, no one said itd be a disaster, just that dolphins wouldn’t be the brisbane2 the city needed. Which has been very much proven by the instant demand for brisbane3 as apparently no one south of river wants to support dolphins.
Perf!!!! The club that Gotham doesn't need, but one that the city deserves
 

Maximus

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I'm sorry, but people are dreaming if they think V'landys has enough power that he can influence the media to not criticise Albo's policies or spending decisions.

You only need to look at the media now with the tax cut. Widespread public support and yet the media is all out attack.

If the LNP opposes PNG funding, the media will too. Anyone who thinks they'd side with Vlandys over the LNP is delusional.
 

Perth Red

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Now you're being disingenuous.

You know that the Dolphins played a few games at a ground that has a capacity of 11.5k. That lowered their overall average. The games they played at Lang Park -- wasn't it 7 or 8? -- proves there is more than 30k people in the greater Brisbane area willing to actively support the Dolphins brand. You and The Great Dane argued they would have limited support because they were a BRL club. That means the pair of you have been proven wrong.

I was mocked in 2020 for saying BRL clubs had strong brand value and would thrive in the NRL. It looks like I was right and all the smartarses who called me delusional were wrong. It's a very satisfying feeling to see all of the arrogant and obnoxious know-it-alls pretending they never predicted doom and gloom in 2020.

I can never take anything that you, Dane or mongoose say about expansion in Brisbane seriously because all three of you have been well and truly repudiated by reality. That's something the three of you will have to live with for the rest of your lives.
They avgd 25k, thats the facts. The fact they chose to play at a ground not fit for NRL is on them. The fact they feel they need to do that, and sell games to Perth suggests financially they arent as rich as you'd like to think maybe?
 
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