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mongoose

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Pole born in NZ
Tuilagi born in Samoa, grew up in NZ
Marzhew born and raised NZ
Ieremia born in Samoa
Taunoa-Brown yes born here, dad is Samoan via NZ
Nicoll-Klokstad born and raised NZ
Kennar born in Samoa
Tonumaipea born in Samoa

I’ll give you Taunoa-Brown, so one, the same as the number of PNG players.
Well if we go by "born" then Peter Wallace, Jake Webster, Craig Polla Mounter, Timana Tahu...
 

Canard

Immortal
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@Jamberoo is one of the most level headed posters on here, and I wouldn't put him in this category at all.

But as someone who lives in Melbourne, there is some weird inherent prejudice with respect to whether someone is a "real" Victorian.

It borders on racist at times. Especially when it comes to those of PI background.

For example, no-one in QLD considers Xavier Coates anything more then a full fledged Cane Toad.
 

The Great Dane

First Grade
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@Jamberoo is one of the most level headed posters on here, and I wouldn't put him in this category at all.

But as someone who lives in Melbourne, there is some weird inherent prejudice with respect to whether someone is a "real" Victorian.

It borders on racist at times. Especially when it comes to those of PI background.

For example, no-one in QLD considers Xavier Coates anything more then a full fledged Cane Toad.
There's nothing weird about it.

A similar thing exists here in Canberra where clear distinctions are made between the minority of people who are born and raised here and the vast majority of "Canberrans" who moved here for Uni or work when they were older.

There's more to being a member of a group than simply existing in the same geographical space as them.
 
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I was right.

In 1982, the club was still technically a Melbourne-based club which played all of its home games at the Sydney Cricket Ground.[61]

In June 1982, it dropped the name "South Melbourne", officially becoming "the Swans" for the rest of the season.[61] The name change, however, did not endear either the Sydney media or the Sydney public, and after successive games at home, began to draw as few as 10,000. Despite just missing the finals, and some good wins at home and respectable home crowds against league leaders Carlton and Richmond, the lack of success and cold reception in Sydney lead to the lustre quickly leaving the league's glamour team.[67]

In 1983 average crowds in Sydney continued to plummet to 12,000 and Swans supporter packages dropped to as low as 100 members (well short of the 20,000 average crowds predicted by the VFL's 1980 Hennessy Report).[68] Television ratings and sponsorship revenue in Sydney were also far below the league's expectations.[69][70]

Operating at a loss well short of the VFL's predicted $750,000 a year profit[68] poor financial performance continued to drown the club in 1984, with the club flagging pay cuts to its players in order to survive.[71] Coach Ricky Quade resigned and caretaker coach Bob Hammond, despite showing some promise, was unable to turn the club's poor performance around.[72] In order to keep the club solvent during this time, the VFL began to write loans to the Swans that the club would have been unable to pay off on its own.[73] The Swans were the league's most reliant on sponsorship and subsidies from the VFL to stay solvent and meet player payments due to its continued poor crowds, public apathy and poor TV ratings.[70]

Public support for the Swans in Sydney was so bad that by the start of the 1985 season, the VFL began to backflip and the league's administrators, having sunk large amounts of money into the club began looking to offload it.[74][75]

 

The Great Dane

First Grade
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I was right.

In 1982, the club was still technically a Melbourne-based club which played all of its home games at the Sydney Cricket Ground.[61]​
In June 1982, it dropped the name "South Melbourne", officially becoming "the Swans" for the rest of the season.[61] The name change, however, did not endear either the Sydney media or the Sydney public, and after successive games at home, began to draw as few as 10,000. Despite just missing the finals, and some good wins at home and respectable home crowds against league leaders Carlton and Richmond, the lack of success and cold reception in Sydney lead to the lustre quickly leaving the league's glamour team.[67]​
In 1983 average crowds in Sydney continued to plummet to 12,000 and Swans supporter packages dropped to as low as 100 members (well short of the 20,000 average crowds predicted by the VFL's 1980 Hennessy Report).[68] Television ratings and sponsorship revenue in Sydney were also far below the league's expectations.[69][70]​
Operating at a loss well short of the VFL's predicted $750,000 a year profit[68] poor financial performance continued to drown the club in 1984, with the club flagging pay cuts to its players in order to survive.[71] Coach Ricky Quade resigned and caretaker coach Bob Hammond, despite showing some promise, was unable to turn the club's poor performance around.[72] In order to keep the club solvent during this time, the VFL began to write loans to the Swans that the club would have been unable to pay off on its own.[73] The Swans were the league's most reliant on sponsorship and subsidies from the VFL to stay solvent and meet player payments due to its continued poor crowds, public apathy and poor TV ratings.[70]​
Public support for the Swans in Sydney was so bad that by the start of the 1985 season, the VFL began to backflip and the league's administrators, having sunk large amounts of money into the club began looking to offload it.[74][75]​
Nobody said you were wrong, and why the Swans did it has been explained multiple times.

What people were saying is that being based in Melbourne and playing all your games out of Sydney for a season as part of a transitional period isn't the same as a club that splits it's home games between two cities.

The eighties were also a very different time, and it was totally unrealistic to expect a bunch of semi-pros with jobs and lives outside of footy to be capable of relocating to another city on short notice. The club also needed time to organise basic things like training facilities and fields, which weren't exactly in ready supply in Sydney at the time.
 
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Nobody said you were wrong, and why the Swans did it has been explained multiple times.

What people were saying is that being based in Melbourne and playing all your games out of Sydney for a season as part of a transitional period isn't the same as a club that splits it's home games between two cities.

The eighties were also a very different time, and it was totally unrealistic to expect a bunch of semi-pros with jobs and lives outside of footy to be capable of relocating to another city on short notice. The club also needed time to organise basic things like training facilities and fields, which weren't exactly in ready supply in Sydney at the time.
The two headed hillbilly from Cairns went on a rant. He was corrected by Jamberoo.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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Calling everything you disagree with a 'rant' is weak, and his only point of contention was that they didn't split games like the Bears intend to do.

So no, he didn't go on a rant and he wasn't wrong. . .
Him calling anything a rant is hilarious given his melt downs!
 

AlwaysGreen

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So if this thing ever came to be, what would they be called?

PNG Plunderers
PNG Patriots
PNG China Haters

PNG Cuscus
PNG Cassowaries
PNG Boars

Or my favourite, PNG Nonsense.
 

mikail-eagle

Bench
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There is a clear and obvious choice.

The PNG Albo's

Re-birthing the Port Moresby Vipers is way to go in opinion

Port Moresby Vipers still exist today.

PNG Cuscus already taken the PNG Mens National Soccer Team and Cassowaries by the AFL Team.
I have a feeling they will stick with Hunters.
Personally I wouldn't mind PNG Masalais. (Ma-sa-lai) Its the pidgin term for the local devil /evil deity.
 

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