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[sup42]

Sup. Have to agree with you.
How much of this do you think is due to top-quality coaching in the early years?
Most Aussie clubs have a wealth of ex-NRL players turned to coaching available. Here we don't have the same skills. Many junior clubs here have well-meaning but inexperienced coaches and the full skill set is not put in place early enough.

Many of the skill must be put in place early so they become instinctive.

It's entirely about the coaching resources and quality of competition.

I played here through school level then in Australia ( Sydney ) at school level , the experience was universes apart.

I only wish I had played top level Union here at the same age to make a comparison.

Forty years ago the Aussie school boy level was starting to build a semi professional mind set in some of the Big schools.

Thirty years ago it was a Semi Pro mindset.

Now it would be elite I'd imagine, keeping pace with the institute of sports philosophies.

Anyone who has played School boys in Aus at a high level will tell you that a play maker knows the set plays by the time they are 15 that we are introducing only now post Matt Elliot to our junior talent.

 

[Juju]

Carl Jennings gorne

 

[Mixmasterreece]

Broncos have issued a statement that they have agreed to let Hoffman negotiate with other clubs for 2015 as his preferred position is FULLBACK ......

 

[Fufu Andronez]

We've already got the Hoffman that we needed.. let's find us a James Graham mk2

 

[Fast Eddie]

I'm not overly convinced that either Matai or Josh Hoffman would push Hurrell or Laumape out of any position.

Especially considering the latter two have had another season of first grade under their belts.

Another thing, Matai and Hoffman probably look a little better than they really are, cause they play for Manly and Brisbane respectively.

Matai is one of the best centres in the game, he walks into a centre spot in front of either Hurrell or Laumape at the Warriors. It's not even really a question.

 

[ozbash]

Broncos have issued a statement that they have agreed to let Hoffman negotiate with other clubs for 2015 as his preferred position is FULLBACK ......

I'd have him, shift the pom to 6.

 

[JJ]

As an aside, for all the Luke fuss, did we have a chat with Ennis, or even Koroisau who to me looks a much better player than Havili?

 

[maddest_kiwi]

As an aside, for all the Luke fuss, did we have a chat with Ennis, or even Koroisau who to me looks a much better player than Havili?

Probably not? Dean Bell doesn't get a trip to the UK talking to them :sarcasm:
Jayden Hodges - the Manly stop-gap rake - looks the goods to. He'd be worth a yarn to.

 

[Rebel]

I'd have him, shift the pom to 6.

This

 

[vvvrulz]

I think we can all agree that chasing backs is nowhere near as important as chasing forwards... of which we don't seem to be doing a lot of

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I think we can all agree that chasing backs is nowhere near as important as chasing forwards... of which we don't seem to be doing a lot of

At least not that we've heard about, I guess. I did read somewhere we'd talked to Sam Moa at least?

 

[sup42]

At least not that we've heard about, I guess. I did read somewhere we'd talked to Sam Moa at least?

yeah sam moa, kassiano, ben teo, ben lowe, side show bob, Ryan hoffman, Isaac Luke....those are the names that have been in the media the last couple of seasons.

The fact only Hoffman took the bait is the problem.

 

[Iron Lion]

I think we can all agree that chasing backs is nowhere near as important as chasing forwards... of which we don't seem to be doing a lot of

Our backs are not as good as we think. Probably over rated to be truthful.

Tomkins - Average thus far
Vatuvei - Best winger at the club but elite NRL winger -NO because of the many variables required in that position.
Hurrell - Huge potential but not 80min player currently.
Laumape - Good player should improve/Not outstanding yet but competes
Fusititua - Good player should improve/Not outstanding but competes
Fish - Fast but injury prone
Neilsen - decidely average
All Wood - Not rated at raiders
Johnson - Prodigal talent not delivering to full potential yet
Townsend - solid at best
Leaulaui - shadow of Wigan version
Peyroux - soild toiler

Looking at that we bloody well need some good back recruits and it is obvious why the warriors are being aggressive in the market place.

 

[Dr Crane]

I just want our news

 

[Iron Lion]

I just want our news

I just had a conversation with an associate close to the warriors and he said the warriors have a dilemma, Matai, Hoffman have indicated the Warriors are their preference at the moment but we will have to pay quite excessive overs now for them signing on. I have heard Hoffman wants a bundle to come here and play centre - 3 year deal at over 700k a season alone. Matai would be on even more! - He reckons Newcastle are making the most aggressive play at Beale and he will be a million dollar player.

I reckon the Warriors should through half of the Hoffman/Matai money at George Moala from Auckland rugby.

 

[Iron Lion]

Also Warriors are haggling with Manly over Mateo, trying to get release and discount over Matai. Manly are making it very difficult wanting to take Mateo with us paying majority of his wages still and also paying Matai wages also + fee

 

[Meth]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11336379

 

[Mixmasterreece]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11336379

Not a single mention of the warriors in the article haha

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

I just had a conversation with an associate close to the warriors and he said the warriors have a dilemma, Matai, Hoffman have indicated the Warriors are their preference at the moment but we will have to pay quite excessive overs now for them signing on. I have heard Hoffman wants a bundle to come here and play centre - 3 year deal at over 700k a season alone. Matai would be on even more! - He reckons Newcastle are making the most aggressive play at Beale and he will be a million dollar player.

I reckon the Warriors should through half of the Hoffman/Matai money at George Moala from Auckland rugby.

If we're their preference and they're making us pay excess what are they trying to make the teams pay who aren't their preference?

Looks like we're being slapped around in negotiations. They know we're desperate and it gives them the edge.

 

[Iron Lion]

Not a single mention of the warriors in the article haha

Put on your glasses and try reading it again