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Put up or shut up, ASADA.

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Card Shark

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I always ask whether you're a member of your footy club. If they answer no I stop talking about footy to them, they are not serious fans.

In the fair weather fans defence, every club has them.....but no other club has made them wait 45 years for sfa!
 

Frenzy.

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Luv it, GB.
Yep, I've had a brick in the pavement for some years now. So if the Sharks win the comp after I kark it, I can still be a very small part of it.

I had a brick in the pavement too. Are they still there?

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Yep, they moved them to the main entrance, Frenzy. Go there on a non-game day and you should find yours. As you know, they were on the club side entrance initially, now they're over the other side. The wall plaques are now at the club side entrance.
 

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Old sharks supporters never die they simply fade away.


Gee Gunn I had this very pic stashed away in the vault.

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Along with anothery

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Frenzy.

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Link is on the blink Poolie

Advice for Sharks players to boycott ASADA

By Brad Forrest



April 30, 2013, 5 a.m.
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A SYDNEY lawyer has strongly advised Cronulla Sharks players not to supply any information that may incriminate themselves — and not to do any further interviews with drug agency investigators.



Forward star Wade Graham was the first of 10 players given Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) interviews yesterday in Sydney, accompanied by his lawyer.

The Sharks and their managers have agreed to the 10 being interviewed, with the NRL stepping in last week to expedite the interview process after ASADA officials wanted to delay proceedings, and sought a day for each of the 10 players.

The Leader understands that all players have a different lawyer.

However, lawyer Zali Burrows strongly questioned the NRL agreement with ASADA, telling the Leader players were under ‘‘no compulsion or contractual obligation’’ to attend interviews.

‘‘The NRL is ascribing to make it a compulsive investigation, yet the ASADA Act does not provide to compel a player to a coercive examination,’’ said Burrows, who was contacted independently by one player.

‘‘An ASADA interview is voluntary, it is not under oath and without caution.
‘‘ASADA cannot compel witnesses to attend or waive privilege against self-incrimination.

‘‘In that context if the player is a non-attendee and it is deemed to be a contract breach, that is nonsense.’’

She said ASADA did not have powers to conduct coercive questioning.

‘‘Requests for interview are merely an invitation only,’’ she said.

‘‘If this is a criminal investigation then the police should be [involved].

‘‘If ASADA assures players that they will not be asked incriminating questions then will they or have they been asked questions to incriminate others? This could be deemed a fishing expedition.

‘‘Adverse findings can destroy a career and devastate a player, and as such the NRL should not be a party to acting on any adverse findings that were founded by intimidation and a surrender of fundamental human rights.’’

Bruno Cullen, the Sharks’ interim chief executive who confirmed Graham was the first of the 10 to start interviews (away from the club), said he and Sharks’ football manager Steve Noyce had received advice that players would not have to incriminate themselves in interviews.

See related Shark Patrol story:
http://www.theleader.com.au/story/1465284/after-the-horror-there-can-only-be-hope-for-the-sharks/?cs=163
 
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It's confirmed in today's paper. A prime reason for our team's recent failures has been off field - the ASADA investigations initiated by the Federal Govt. via Lundy and Clare, which many say was to get their own negatives off the front page. Apparently they don't care who they hurt.....and that seemingly includes Cronulla club and its supporters.
`Whatever it takes' - said Graham Richardson. Well, that certainly seems to be the case here. But enough is enough. Either make your accusations now or pyss off. This so far unfounded finger pointing has done much damage to many people. A small number have had their lives destroyed, and yet the Federal Govt. does not seem to give a damn. So to ASADA and the people who initiated the enquiry - either put up or shut up.......and let us get back to enjoying the sport we love so much.

This original post, from almost a month ago, applies more than ever!
 

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That's it say nothing. If not guilty simply tell the truth. Say nothing every will mark you down as guilty anyway. If guilty tell the truth too, cop your ban and go elsewhere. Sorry, but I don't want cheats at the club. We've waited long enough to win clean. If they all get off it would seem a bit odd. No-one at the club has ever denied anything from day 1.
 

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That's it say nothing. If not guilty simply tell the truth. Say nothing every will mark you down as guilty anyway. If guilty tell the truth too, cop your ban and go elsewhere. Sorry, but I don't want cheats at the club. We've waited long enough to win clean. If they all get off it would seem a bit odd. No-one at the club has ever denied anything from day 1.
bullshit they havent said they did nothing wrong. They have all said it a million times. Essendon are saying it , everybody is saying it.
The PEPS are/were not banned. That is all that matters.
No catch all law is going to win, & its not intended to. Its all about labor.
 
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For real enough of the hand-wringing webby... All players and coaching staff have consistently and unanimously denied any wrong doing.

Ever heard of a little something we like to call 'presumption of innocence'?
 

Card Shark

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Ever heard of a little something we like to call 'presumption of innocence'?

The big difference I see in this compared to everyday law is with asada, it's the presumption of guilt.

The accused have to prove innocence rather than asada prove guilt. That's why they can suspend people without a positive test.
 

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All players and coaching staff have consistently and unanimously denied any wrong doing.

Ever heard of a little something we like to call 'presumption of innocence'?

I have not seen consistent denials. Must be looking in the wrong place. Presumption of innocence. You mean the Roosters didn't really rort the cap like most think. Well not officially. OJ Simpson?

Poor old Roosters and OJ. Greg Bird got off too. Good on him. Champion bloke.
 

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bullshit they havent said they did nothing wrong. They have all said it a million times. Essendon are saying it , everybody is saying it.
The PEPS are/were not banned. That is all that matters.
No catch all law is going to win, & its not intended to. Its all about labor.

If they admit taking peptides why the delay in establishing whether banned or not?

I agree with your point about Labor though. The whole ASADA crap will blow over if they lose the next election. (Which they will). If we can drag this past September the whole political crap will lose impetus.
 

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Outta action for a while. Computer copped a virus. One must admit though, that this issue has been a booming success for the Federal Govt. It has done exactly what the pundits have said it was designed to do - keep their other issues off the front page.
But even though they like it, I hate it. I just wanna see the Sharks win a few games. We threw away the game against the Dogs with attacking failures you'd hope not to see from 10yo's. Essendon are undefeated, Manly are performing well, Sharks have crumbled. Was only discussing the issue with the missus. It seems a huge source of our problems has been the lack of support for the playing group by the previous Board, and their hiring of one from those who would destroy us to justify their stand.
 

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I hardly think it's a success for the federal gov Pops (If one was to believe in the smoke screen theory) I'm assuming the media will now turn the heat up on ASADA very soon. They have tarnished both the AFL and NRL 2013 seasons, and there are thousands of angry sports fans.

Including lower end sections of society that usually vote Labor?
 

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I hardly think it's a success for the federal gov Pops (If one was to believe in the smoke screen theory) I'm assuming the media will now turn the heat up on ASADA very soon. They have tarnished both the AFL and NRL 2013 seasons, and there are thousands of angry sports fans.

Including lower end sections of society that usually vote Labor?

Since when has any stunt they've pulled been a success.

Passion fingers.
 
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