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QLD Team 2017

Smack

Coach
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we are f**ked

Myles, Lillyman, O'Neil & no JT. And expect plenty of traffic directed at Milf too, hope he holds his own though.

And then you realise they are playing against a team coached by daley and run by pearce, because he will finally come good, the 16th time
 

big hit!

Bench
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3,452
we are f**ked

Myles, Lillyman, O'Neil & no JT. And expect plenty of traffic directed at Milf too, hope he holds his own though.

there's all this talk about milf copping a heap of traffic on wednesday night. unless there is a bit of a positional re-jig for NSW, or they actually get the MFs in Friz and JTrob to specifically target that side of the ruck too, I can't see it being too much of a problem for QLD. NSW have their most non-threatening attacking player running down the right side (QLD's left where Milf will be defending as the #3) in Jackson. As I said, I wonder if Daley is going to get some other bigger bodies in Frizell and JTrob running lanes off Pearce down there too.

I know Cords and Pearce play at club together, but I dunno if they'll have much of a combination down the NSW left side either as Maloney is very left-side dominant. He'll be feeding Cords I'd say and this will be up against QLD's best defender in Gillett. and obviously Hayne will be outside Cords with Tedesco chiming in th inside.

It's all interesting how this will tactically play out. Once again, QLD still have the advantage of combinations going into this match, whereas NSW are working on them from scratch yet again.
 

isaiah

Bench
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milf was smashed all night in an u20 interstate game but dean pay is a better tactician than daley and his brains trust
 

Triple H

Juniors
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Ya see here's the thing rednecks..

Dane my friend Dane shouldn't be there. Why? His haircut. It's reminiscent of Rocky Maivia-uhh circa 96.

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Rocky couldn't get over-uhh with this haircut, and neither can my friend Dane. Actually Rock was booed outta the building with go away heat, and told to go and die.

I just don't see my friend Dane being able to get over with said haircut, so he shouldn't be there. Holmes is more over, and should be picked for game 2.
 

slamminsam246

Juniors
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Credit where credits due, Milf was solid on debut. He had a couple of good runs later in the game and other than a misread and the odd missed tackle, held his own defensively when he was on. However, like with DCE, Cronk n Smith denied him quality ball the few times Qld had a roll on and he didnt ever kick. On the 5th Nsw knew Cronk was the only option and rushed him. The bomb n hope tactic was woeful. U15s stuff. Walters said b4 the game they were up for defense. Well that went to shi!+ very quickly and the attack was the worse ive seen from QLD in 12 years.
Boyd proved me completely right (to my dismay). Barely had a dig at all n went missing most of the night cause it was all too tough. Didnt run off any of the halves (maybe once with 5 mins to go and got smashed) and was never there ready for n offload from a forward. Threw a wild cut out pass when there was 3 on 1 that went behind Gagai and ruined the chance. Woeful. I thought defense was more his go, but tonight he didnt seem interested in that either. All night caught out of position or just simply too feeble to stop anything.
Real "captains" knock. What a joke
 

big hit!

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Credit where credits due, Milf was solid on debut. He had a couple of good runs later in the game and other than a misread and the odd missed tackle, held his own defensively when he was on. However, like with DCE, Cronk n Smith denied him quality ball the few times Qld had a roll on and he didnt ever kick. On the 5th Nsw knew Cronk was the only option and rushed him. The bomb n hope tactic was woeful. U15s stuff. Walters said b4 the game they were up for defense. Well that went to shi!+ very quickly and the attack was the worse ive seen from QLD in 12 years.
Boyd proved me completely right (to my dismay). Barely had a dig at all n went missing most of the night cause it was all too tough. Didnt run off any of the halves (maybe once with 5 mins to go and got smashed) and was never there ready for n offload from a forward. Threw a wild cut out pass when there was 3 on 1 that went behind Gagai and ruined the chance. Woeful. I thought defense was more his go, but tonight he didnt seem interested in that either. All night caught out of position or just simply too feeble to stop anything.
Real "captains" knock. What a joke

Boyd only really took on the left-side half duties while Milf was off, with no forward momentum as their middle was getting reamed all night. Not a tough gig at all.

And Pearce basically nullified his return game with the constant kicks to Oates in the first half.

But don't let the facts get in the way of the conclusion you'd already come to pre-game.

He's not the reason they lost the game, but they'll be bringing in Slater no doubt for his added spark and speed around the ruck.
 

Blood Shot Eyes

First Grade
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Credit where credits due, Milf was solid on debut. He had a couple of good runs later in the game and other than a misread and the odd missed tackle, held his own defensively when he was on. However, like with DCE, Cronk n Smith denied him quality ball the few times Qld had a roll on and he didnt ever kick. On the 5th Nsw knew Cronk was the only option and rushed him. The bomb n hope tactic was woeful. U15s stuff. Walters said b4 the game they were up for defense. Well that went to shi!+ very quickly and the attack was the worse ive seen from QLD in 12 years.
Boyd proved me completely right (to my dismay). Barely had a dig at all n went missing most of the night cause it was all too tough. Didnt run off any of the halves (maybe once with 5 mins to go and got smashed) and was never there ready for n offload from a forward. Threw a wild cut out pass when there was 3 on 1 that went behind Gagai and ruined the chance. Woeful. I thought defense was more his go, but tonight he didnt seem interested in that either. All night caught out of position or just simply too feeble to stop anything.
Real "captains" knock. What a joke
Thats Boyd in a nutshell...when the going gets tough he disappears ..been like it all his career...fortunately for him hes been on the winning teams more than the losing
 

slamminsam246

Juniors
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Boyd only really took on the left-side half duties while Milf was off, with no forward momentum as their middle was getting reamed all night. Not a tough gig at all.

And Pearce basically nullified his return game with the constant kicks to Oates in the first half.

But don't let the facts get in the way of the conclusion you'd already come to pre-game.

He's not the reason they lost the game, but they'll be bringing in Slater no doubt for his added spark and speed around the ruck.

Facts?
Fact is he did nothing in attack other than botching a 3 on 1 opportunity with a shit pass. Was never sniffing around in support for an offload. Wasnt interested at all.
Fact. Defensively he was woeful. Tedesco saved 2 tries n scored 1. Darius was hiding somewhere off screen for basically 80 minutes.
Fact. If he wasnt a donkey he wouldnt be this overrated and he definitely wouldnt have been selected over Holmes/Slater
 

Bronco18

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Boyd proved me completely right (to my dismay). Barely had a dig at all n went missing most of the night cause it was all too tough.

Lol, you were deathriding him from the start. No doubt you missed his try saving tackle on Tedesco under the posts?

For the record, they ~should~ bring Slater back, his speed and involvements around the ruck was sorely missed, and Boyd had a game he'd like to forget. I defended his selection but Slater probably would've been better. But Big Hit is 100% right, he's one of the last things that need changing. Forwards were absolutely pummeled, everything after that was secondary.
 

slamminsam246

Juniors
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Lol, you were deathriding him from the start. No doubt you missed his try saving tackle on Tedesco under the posts?

For the record, they ~should~ bring Slater back, his speed and involvements around the ruck was sorely missed, and Boyd had a game he'd like to forget. I defended his selection but Slater probably would've been better. But Big Hit is 100% right, he's one of the last things that need changing. Forwards were absolutely pummeled, everything after that was secondary.
Haha a Bronco accusing someone of deathriding. Irony at its finest.

Boyd did make the tackle, but Morgan was as much the hero in that play. His desperate dive had tedesco backing his way to the try line. This was directly after Boyd completely missed a tackle on Morris (1 on 1) and was only saved by Gagai desperation. Just earlier he got shown up by Maloney to the point he wasnt even able to lay a finger on him.
Woeful. A cat with a heart the size of a caraway seed.
Gagai, McGuire, Napa, Papali, Smith, Cronk were good. O'neill and Boyd terrible.
 

slamminsam246

Juniors
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1. Slater
2. Holmes
3. Chambers
4. Gagai
5. Oates
6. Thurston
7. Cronk
8. Napa
9. Smith
10. Wallace
11. Papali
12. Gillet
13. McGuire

14. Morgan/Milf
15. Thaiday
16. Lawrence
17. Hess

18. Dce/Norman
19. Guerra
 

hellteam

First Grade
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Too slow in the middle.

Smith had an absolute shocker, the worst game I've seen him play. He was on the back foot all night in defence, looked tired constantly.

1 Boyd
2 Oates
3 Chambers (right side against Hayne - plus it's his preferred side)
4 Gagai
5 Holmes
6 Thurston
7 Cronk
8 Napa
9 Smith
10 McGuire
11 Cooper (mainly for combination with Thurston)
12 Gillett
13 Papalli

14 Morgan
15 Wallace
16 Hess
17 Guerra

The time has come for Thaiday and Myles unfortunately.

If the game was at Suncorp I would probably add Slater... but the wet ground at ANZ has never suited him.

We need a bit of impact off the bench, I thought Guerra was decent and deserves another shot.

Napa, McGuire, Papalii should be quick enough in the middle.

Gillett needs to lift, wasn't in the game at all.
 

Bronco18

Juniors
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Haha a Bronco accusing someone of deathriding. Irony at its finest.

Im missing something here... is this a Crushers/Super League dig?

In any case the fact that your initial analysis was on two Broncos backs rather than the abysmal performance of the forwards as a collective shows you have an axe to grind or no knowledge of football.
 

slamminsam246

Juniors
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Im missing something here... is this a Crushers/Super League dig?

In any case the fact that your initial analysis was on two Broncos backs rather than the abysmal performance of the forwards as a collective shows you have an axe to grind or no knowledge of football.

Definitely have an axe to grind. Im a passionate Qlder and i want us to remain successful. The team that played last night wasnt even competitive.
I have definitely acknowledged (in another thread) that the game was lost in the middle. The forwards as a unit were dominated. Hence the team I listed 5 posts ago. Time for a clean out and bring in some youth.
 

Bronco18

Juniors
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Definitely have an axe to grind. Im a passionate Qlder and i want us to remain successful. The team that played last night wasnt even competitive.
I have definitely acknowledged (in another thread) that the game was lost in the middle. The forwards as a unit were dominated. Hence the team I listed 5 posts ago. Time for a clean out and bring in some youth.

On that I agree on... only so good to stick solid if they're performing and winning. This game was probably a while in the making.
 

davi

Juniors
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Andrew Johns suggests Queensland needs to make wholesale changes, just sitting on their hands and being patient won't be enough.

4. QUEENSLAND MUST RESPOND

Legend Andrew Johns has called for Queensland to make immediate amends.

“I thought it showed just the young legs in the (NSW) team,” Johns said. “I think they looked hungry and stages tonight they looked far faster in key moments, especially under fatigue.”

While Johns conceded that Queensland could make excuses given their depleted ranks, they must still make changes for game two in Sydney.

“There has to be changes,” Johns said. “They have to bring some young forwards in. Young Coen Hess has to come in somewhere, Jarrod Wallace has to come in. The big argument is Billy Slater, does he come back?”
Queensland will be hopeful of welcoming back superstar half Johnathan Thurston.

Their kicking game was poor in the opening half-hour, as New South Wales made it their mission to work over Cooper Cronk. The Blues simply belted Cronk every time he kicked.

With Anthony Milford stepping in for his first Origin game, Cronk was placed in the spotlight and at times it looked like he was fighting a losing battle.

There’s no doubt Queensland will be hoping to rush Thurston back for Origin II, but there’s no guarantee that he is going to be available.

Queensland legend Paul Vautin said Thurston’s shoulder may not respond in time for the June 21 clash.

“I’m not sure, his shoulder is pretty bad,” Vautin told Nine. “The rotator cuff. It is three weeks away. You know, you think he could be right. I’m not sure.”

The Maroons clearly lacked the experience and polish of their missing stars, but Thurston isn’t the only one who is unlikely to make a return in time to save their series.

“Matt Scott is out for the season. Billy Slater is obviously available, but, you know, had Billy been here tonight, would it have made a difference?” Vautin asked."

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/or...1/news-story/aed6fc86467f4593f071c37a371083c4
 

lockyno1

Post Whore
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Too slow in the middle.

Smith had an absolute shocker, the worst game I've seen him play. He was on the back foot all night in defence, looked tired constantly.

1 Boyd
2 Oates
3 Chambers (right side against Hayne - plus it's his preferred side)
4 Gagai
5 Holmes
6 Thurston
7 Cronk
8 Napa
9 Smith
10 McGuire
11 Cooper (mainly for combination with Thurston)
12 Gillett
13 Papalli

14 Morgan
15 Wallace
16 Hess
17 Guerra

The time has come for Thaiday and Myles unfortunately.

If the game was at Suncorp I would probably add Slater... but the wet ground at ANZ has never suited him.

We need a bit of impact off the bench, I thought Guerra was decent and deserves another shot.

Napa, McGuire, Papalii should be quick enough in the middle.

Gillett needs to lift, wasn't in the game at all.

I worry about McGuire as a prop. He can play there sure but I'd rather a genuine prop. Maybe someone like Simms from our side is a chance.
 

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