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R15 vs Sydney Roosters

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His brother is Steve Crawley. Executive Director of Fox Sports. Only reason Paul gets a gig there. It sure ain't for talent or intelligence.
I am sure Mick Crawley assistant coach at the Raiders is another brother.
Oh yeah you're right. I forgot about that. Thanks
 

Iamback

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No I think Smith is a permanent in.

Hosking makes the side dependent on who we are verging.

Teams with big forward packs that tire than Luke on the bench. Smaller quicker teams hosking.

Horses for courses.. the last bloke will most likely get limited mins anyway so doesn't effect team dynamics

The issue with that is. Kenny plays middle,
Sorro can play middle if needed

Who is the edge back up?

We saw last night how easy it is to lose a guy or 2

We you need and has served us well is a well balanced

As you said if the aim is for the starting backrow to play 80

Fish and Moses 50.

Kenny replaces a prop

Spencer needs time.

Throw in time for Luke.

Then very little game time for that last guy and Salmon. Why does it need to be a middle?

You have a HIA early on. Who from that assorted middles would you trust defending on an edge for 70 mins?
 

chrisD

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Spencer’s agent’s press release was just trying to make out the move was for football reasons rather than the reality that it was about cash and everything else. It’s their job to make such a statement, it was just stupidly done given the reality of the two clubs. Agents are just salesman and they all live in their own little dumb bubble where they think everyone other than them is a moron and will believe their bullshit like they’ve conditioned themselves to. No use holding it personally against Spencer.
 

age.s

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Spencer’s agent’s press release was just trying to make out the move was for football reasons rather than the reality that it was about cash and everything else. It’s their job to make such a statement, it was just stupidly done given the reality of the two clubs. Agents are just salesman and they all live in their own little dumb bubble where they think everyone other than them is a moron and will believe their bullshit like they’ve conditioned themselves to. No use holding it personally against Spencer.
Who holds anything against Spencer personally? He's a kid who's paid to run and hit very hard. Its a pretty silly comment and worthy of mockery (particularly if we flog them next year) but it doesn't besmirch his character. He's a good dude by all accounts.
 
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Speaking of wankers what about this drivel, Mr Crawley you have excelled your self

NRL Tackle: Ivan Cleary’s hypocrisy on show in explosive fallout to JWH-Spencer Leniu fight​

Ivan Cleary thinks Jared Waerea-Hargreaves was ‘looking for trouble’ in the explosive Roosters-Panthers showdown, but he might need to look a little closer to home, writes Paul Crawley.



NRL: Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Spencer Leniu have almost come to blows in a huge fiery exchange which resulted in both props heading to the sin bin.
It was a bit rich of Ivan Cleary throwing Jared Waerea-Hargreaves under the bus when accusing the Roosters enforcer of “looking for trouble” in the explosive aftermath to the Panthers’ thumping 30-6 win over the Roosters.

While it is understandable an NRL coach will want to look after his own players, Cleary might want to remember he doesn’t coach a team of choir boys.
And he has one player in particular in Jarome Luai who goes out every single week with what appears a clear intention of looking for trouble, albeit in a very different way to what Cleary was accusing Waerea-Hargreaves of here.
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Spencer Leniu come together in a flashpoint at the end of the match. NRL Imagery

Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Spencer Leniu come together in a flashpoint at the end of the match. NRL Imagery
But in the big prop’s defence, it was outrageous of Cleary to suggest intentional foul play had anything to do with the two ugly incidents involving Liam Martin and Moses Leota.
While Cleary’s comments about Waerea-Hargreaves’ apparent intention to start the trouble were just as ludicrous, with the claim “the balance of probability was that Jared was probably the one initiating it” complete and utter nonsense.
In the incident involving Martin it was the Panthers backrower who came in from the side and hit his head on Waerea-Hargreaves’ hip.
A total accident, which was proven by the fact the NRL did not charge JWH for what happened.
While in respect to Leota, as Trent Robinson said, Waerea-Hargreaves was simply running with his bumpers up like every prop does, and the replays certainly did not indicate to me that he raised his elbow in an act of illegal play. Again, the NRL match review committee agreed.
Penrith coach Ivan Cleary had some choice words to say about Roosters enforcer Jared Waerea-Hargreaves. Picture: Getty

Penrith coach Ivan Cleary had some choice words to say about Roosters enforcer Jared Waerea-Hargreaves. Picture: Getty
You see multiple incidents very similar in most games, just go back to Thursday night when Tino Fa’asuamaleaui broke Api Koroisau’s jaw.
Yet when asked if he had an issue with this one, Cleary didn’t hold back.
“If I’m truthful, I did,” Cleary added. “I think it was very questionable. The way he looked. Where he saw him. The way it (the elbow) was cocked.”
There was a time when rival coaches would steer clear of commenting on incidents likely to go before the NRL match review committee out of respect, especially when the evidence was as unclear as this was.
No doubt, Waerea-Hargreaves over reacted when squirting Spencer Leniu with water before hurling the bottle at him.
Waerea-Hargreaves has a reputation as one of the game’s most fiery forwards. Picture: Getty

Waerea-Hargreaves has a reputation as one of the game’s most fiery forwards. Picture: Getty
But again, Cleary’s inability to see fault in his own players was highlighted by the fact he was confused why Leniu was even sent to the sin bin.
How about the fact Leniu was carrying on like a lunatic and couldn’t be calmed down, not even by his own captain Isaah Yeo.
Even when Lenui was walking from the field he still couldn’t control his anger as he started doing lewd gestures to the crowd and appearing to offer to fight anyone out in the car park.
You want talk about out of control, that was the rugby league definition of it.
This is the same prick that started the whole “Penrith are arrogant “ diatribe after the game against Canberra in 2021.
 
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Crawley does have a point. Yes Hargraves instigated it, however, Leniu's reaction could have been better. Nice, attempted reflection though.
 

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Well done on another win. We are shit. A clean out is needed.
Souffs, Storm and maybe Broncos are your biggest threats.

Please beat Souffs. I couldn't put up with the media wankfest over Fatrell and their number one fan. The publicity whore airmiles pm.
Roosters ,what is you fans reaction to Robinson at the moment?
 

Black Panther

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Like a few have said on here before, where was JWH when the game was on the line? No where to be see. Comes in trying to be the hard man when the game was dead and buried. Former hard man I say. Who the f**k throws a water bottle at someone, but then cocks their fist.
 
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I like how he has a crack at Cleary's response to Leniu, but ignores Robbo saying "that's why we signed him".

One coach is a bit bemused by it, the other is directly encouraging it.

😐
I find it ironic that there's no official announcement of Leniu's arrival?
 

Iamback

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Well done on another win. We are shit. A clean out is needed.
Souffs, Storm and maybe Broncos are your biggest threats.

Please beat Souffs. I couldn't put up with the media wankfest over Fatrell and their number one fan. The publicity whore airmiles pm.

Souffs can't beat us because we keep the ball and don't give them set starts. They aren't a threat
 

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