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R19 vs Broncos

mxlegend99

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Why all the Cleary dislike coming out?
Remember he is still just a kid!
He hasn't signed an extension yet so he's in a limbo where people are talking him down.

If he leaves they turn on him. If he extends hes great again. Jimmy is a bigger problem than Cleary. He took over the team and is now in shit form.

Cleary is much better when it's his team. You can see him try to take over when Jimmy isn't doing anything. Although last night no half could have changed the result. Halves need the ball to do that. But our back 3 helped make sure Broncos had all the possession early.
 
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OldPanther

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I’d play Peach in 13, JFH or Merrin back to the bench.

Or I’d run the same side. We need some sort of continuity to build partnerships. We haven’t had any the last 3 months. Surely We can’t play that bad again.

At this point I'll take a consistent roster for more than 2 weeks in a row.
 

OldPanther

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He hasn't signed an extension yet so he's in a limbo where people are talling him down.

If he leaves they turn on him. If he extends hes great again. Jimmy is a bigger pronlrm than Cleary. He took over the team and is noe in shit form.

Cleary is much better when it's his team. You can see him try to take over when Jimmy isn't doing anything. Although last night no half could have changed the result. Halves need the ball to do that. But our back 3 helped make sure Broncos had all the possession early.

Hey you know I don't do that. I really hope you're right and it's just Maloney holding him back.
 

mxlegend99

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Hey you know I don't do that. I really hope you're right and it's just Maloney holding him back.
Not all people do it. Just in general.

Its not Jimmy holding him back. The coach hss made it Jimmys team due to his early season form. Cleary has a different role now. While Jimmy is not in good form.

For the past 2 seasons Cleary has been the main guy leading the team around. Although i think he is slowly taking over from Jimmy again. But it needs to be his team again.
 

franklin2323

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Happy for Griffin to be criticised but there is absolutely no consistency. If he gets hammered when we lose, he should be praised when we win. But he doesn’t because conveniently Gus is the coach when we win.

In saying that, no coach could of done much last night. We made dreadful decisions & errors that we haven’t all year. It started 3 minutes in & finished at full time. From what I can see there isn’t much continuity in our errors from previous weeks. He could of hooked Maloney but not sure how that would impact us going forward in the season.

If we do the same thing next week I’ll be very worried. At the moment I’m only semi worried but we’re not the first team to struggle through an origin period. Ok maybe between semi worried & very worried.

We looked pretty good with the ball the 2nd half. Defence all game was right off. Usually it is the opposite with him as coach. So it is a tough one
 

franklin2323

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Not all people do it. Just in general.

Its not Jimmy holding him back. The coach hss made it Jimmys team due to his early season form. Cleary has a different role now. While Jimmy is not in good form.

For the past 2 seasons Cleary has been the main guy leading the team around. Although i think he is slowly taking over from Jimmy again. But it needs to be his team again.

He had good vision for Blake's try. Had a good line break too. He was coming along nicely
 

unKwn

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what worries me is that if Cleary leaves he will become a top notch player, and that we'll never get to see that side of Cleary under the current coach we have
 

franklin2323

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At this point I'll take a consistent roster for more than 2 weeks in a row.

That is the main problem. They scored 2 tries off kicks due to a new fullback not being in position. Throw in 2 new halves in the defence line. Doesn't excuse the easy tries just why it isn't as bad as most on here would want you to thihk
 

OldPanther

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Work it out yourself. I am done.

Compared to his last game for us up there. He tried new things as the game went on. Had a good line break. Good vision for the Blake try... He is just the target this month

Thanks Franklin. People just want to see some good reasoning. I'm glad you can at least support your opinion with an argument. Definitely makes it easier to digest an opposing opinion.
 

franklin2323

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Thanks Franklin. People just want to see some good reasoning. I'm glad you can at least support your opinion with an argument. Definitely makes it easier to digest an opposing opinion.

I was critical of him after the semi last year due to him merely only following the game plan and not playing what was in front of him. Early on last night was the same. As the game went on that improved.
 

age.s

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I understand having some misgivings about Cleary, but c'mon guys we just shipped 50. He's a long long way down the list of our problems.
 

franklin2323

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I understand having some misgivings about Cleary, but c'mon guys we just shipped 50. He's a long long way down the list of our problems.

We have many issues. The halves will fix themselves with time with the team. Other problems not so easy. For me ref calls killed us. I'd be getting a ref to check in at training to see what we are doing wrong. Every week we get caned
 

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