maybe i'm totally off the wall, but i would have thought that assoication with the Japanese community is more of a Japanese thing than an Australian thing.
It's divisive when ethinicities "take over" suburbs, such as the Vietnamese in Cabramatta and the Lebanese in Punchbowl.
Really who do I discriminate against?greeneyed said:Mr Angry said:Because I live in QLD and talk to QLDers' all the time.Why would you say rednecks live in Qld?
They care not for immigrantslol, no problemo, stop QLder's hating anything non white or in a broncos jersey and I'll stop judging them.How about you stop being judgmental and lets tolerate differences
Yes that in fact all people are equal, despite what Johnny and other would tell you, and despite what you may hear in QLD.Your own comments reveal your own discriminatory beliefs.......
Migrants are scum, or have you hear the call of Queenslander?
Pick the correct side to fight against, fargwit.
Clearly you are a discriminatory and intolerant as the ones you are choosing to denounce.
Tokyo_Raider said:It's divisive when ethinicities "take over" suburbs, such as the Vietnamese in Cabramatta and the Lebanese in Punchbowl.
Why? What stops you living there? I used to live in Campsie, 'Korea Town'. Damn, I loved that place - great food, wonderful shops, lovely people....who gives a toss if a large percentage of the population were drawn from Korea? How is this divisive?
Mr Angry said:Really who do I discriminate against?greeneyed said:Mr Angry said:Because I live in QLD and talk to QLDers' all the time.Why would you say rednecks live in Qld?
They care not for immigrantslol, no problemo, stop QLder's hating anything non white or in a broncos jersey and I'll stop judging them.How about you stop being judgmental and lets tolerate differences
Yes that in fact all people are equal, despite what Johnny and other would tell you, and despite what you may hear in QLD.Your own comments reveal your own discriminatory beliefs.......
Migrants are scum, or have you hear the call of Queenslander?
Pick the correct side to fight against, fargwit.
Clearly you are a discriminatory and intolerant as the ones you are choosing to denounce.
Now Kris man, I see you need a dictionary also.Kris_man said:Mr Angry: call me a Redneck, call me whatever - don't you see how you're proving me right?? greeneyed is correct - you're guilty of exactly that which you're preaching against. you see, if everyone is entitled to their opinions, then i am entitled to my opinion that homosexuality is immoral (i'm NOT judging homosexuals themselves, merely that particular aspect of their person). but because i possess this belief, i am shunned for it, and labelled a "redneck". surely this is not the "tolerance of others beliefs" that you preach.
Tokyo_Raider said:I'm as white as snow, hrundi.
Perhaps I AM being overly idealistic. Let's put it this way, then. Perhaps certain suburbs of Sydney become less attractive you to as a result of ethnic demography.
Do you really care? Do you have a strong urge to spend time in Lakemba or whevever? If people are happy sharing an alternate culture in a confined area, then it seems to me that it does no harm. Personally, I am more uncomfortable among the BMW and mortgage set on the North Shore of Sydney than in Lakemba or Campsie or Ultimo.
Why is your sense of comfort worth more than the sense of comfort of those who choose to make their homes in these places? if you don't like an ethnically insular neighbourhood, then don't go there. Seems pretty simple to me.
:lol: i'll get a dictionary when you get a pair of glasses - i never said i hate homos or immigrants, in fact i even added a disclaimer to what i said about homosexuality in order to avoid essentialist claims like the one you just made. one thing is clear to me though: there is not even agreement amongst multiculturalists as to just what it means to be multicultural: Tokyo says if you dislike someone's views, then don't interact with them. Mr Angry says if you dislike someone's views, then too bad - you just have to tolerate it.Mr Angry said:I am completely tolerant of thier attitude, I simply disagree with it and point it out, I do not hate them nor would I not hire them because they feel this way.
You can hate homos and immgrants that is fine with me, I just do not share the view.
yeah, Tokyo Raider, your solution to intolerance by dividing Sydney up seems to contradict your stance that multiple cultures and beliefs do not make for a divided city/nation.Tokyo Raider said:Avoid the suburbs? What next, build a fence around it and not let "outsiders" in? You're not making sense, or you seem to be misunderstanding what I'm getting at.
you know what Mr Angry? i think this was a pretty reasonable, intellectual debate until you blew in and brought emotion into it, and started to make personal attacks (ie, "redneck"). this was a purely academic debate, each person proposing reasons to support their claims, until you chimed in and used the "redneck" line, which like i showed before is completely self-contradictory, which means you lose this debate, you're out. it's time to go... Mr Angry
culture is what brings a nation together. rituals, art, dance, etc are the process by which people bond and celebrate. take this away, and what is there left to form the glue of society? my answer is, that if you divide the society enough, society will of necessity cease to exist
alternatively some are poor suburbs, one is Redfern for example
does a bug flapping its wings over in Jupiter make any difference to us here on Earth? yes, but not a big enough difference to concern me. what i'm saying is that ideally, people would practice the same cultural rituals. when you "express your cultural identity", you're not expressing anything as an individual, you're expressing something as a member of a group. would it be called 'culture' if everyone practiced completely different rituals and artforms?Panjabi said:Please correct me if im wrong, but are you saying that, individuals who express thier cultural identity are resulting in a divisive society?
Panjabi said:alternatively some are poor suburbs, one is Redfern for example
Just a slight technicallity on that, Redfern is not seen as a threat to individuals because it's a poor suburb (property values in Redfern are high), but the problem is the high crime rate, which is directly related to the Block. Get rid of the Block and you will solve the problem, but that's another topic for another day. Carry on..
The block is being replaced by new high-density housing. Do you think the criminal and drug related aspects of the area are suddenly going to disappear
Panjabi said:The block is being replaced by new high-density housing. Do you think the criminal and drug related aspects of the area are suddenly going to disappear
Disappear out of sight? Probably not, but lets face it the Block is the hub of all the criminal and drug related activity. Take away the Block and resettle the inhabitants and you will find the problems will diminish, but then we will find the same issues rising in other parts of the city.