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Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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I guess we are all hoping Luai changes a lot of things for us when he arrives, we have a lot of good kids coming up, but imo, are still a year or two away from being ready.

Without a hardworking forward pack, Luai's magic will be lost.

Sadly I don't thin Reg is the answer either. Too unpredictable, and is showing a thing about chewing through clubs. Penrith let him go, and now Parramatta. Something doesn't quite gel with Reg regarding hard work and discipline.

I'd be looking in the country for some hardworking raw bones, (not too large) forwards with good motors who are plying their trade in country rugby league.

I don't see Reg as an snwer.
 

Tigerm

Coach
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10,727
Without a hardworking forward pack, Luai's magic will be lost.

Sadly I don't thin Reg is the answer either. Too unpredictable, and is showing a thing about chewing through clubs. Penrith let him go, and now Parramatta. Something doesn't quite gel with Reg regarding hard work and discipline.

I'd be looking in the country for some hardworking raw bones, (not too large) forwards with good motors who are plying their trade in country rugby league.

I don't see Reg as an snwer.
You would know him by than me, I’ve only seen minutes of him, but we need some “good attitude “ experience here, whether he is that guy I don’t know.
We’ll find out what’s happening soon enough, I guess.
 

Nutz

First Grade
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5,230
You would know him by than me, I’ve only seen minutes of him, but we need some “good attitude “ experience here, whether he is that guy I don’t know.
We’ll find out what’s happening soon enough, I guess.
Spot on Tm..."good attitude"
I take attitude as being committed... by not to tuning out for the whole 80 minutes.
Classic example is Fonua Pole. He was one of our best this year but on several occasions he was bad.
He'd have games where he'd run from the back fence, have heaps of energy, score a try and be a bit of a tackling machine.....then at some stage during the same game he'd arm grab and let in a try. He's had a couple of those tuning out moments.
Our whole team is like that. Most of the guys really put in but spoil it by doing dumb stuff.
The right attitude as you say is often misconstrued with poor concentration....
Sports Psychologist teach "be in the zone" or "being in the moment"
A forward pack of Angus Crichtons and Apisai Koroisaus will do me.
 

Ron's_Mate

Bench
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‘I’ll always be a Tigers player’: How season at Leichhardt set Grant on path to grand final
By Christian Nicolussi
October 5, 2024 — 4.45pm

Grand final week is always a time for players to reflect on the journey that helped get them to the biggest game of the year.

For Harry Grant, he will forever be grateful for his year at the Wests Tigers when part of a Melbourne swap deal with Paul Momirovski.

“I’ll always be a Wests Tigers player, which is pretty cool,” Grant told this masthead.

“I embraced being there. I was all in that season and what we could achieve.

“I learnt a lot about what it took to play first grade, week in and week out.

“It set me up to be in a good position when I did come back to the Melbourne Storm.”

Grant was in the Storm system but stranded behind gun starting hooker and captain Cameron Smith, while Brandon Smith was the back-up dummy half.

Believing Smith was about to retire at the end of 2020, Grant knew he needed to be playing regular football if he was any chance to beat Brandon Smith to the coveted No.9 jersey.

Storm coach Craig Bellamy recalled it being his idea. Then Tigers coach Michael Maguire said the swap deal was floated by his offsider Scott Woodward.

Grant was prepared to head to the other side of the world for 12 months, but was glad when the Tigers came knocking.

“It was my dad [Paul] who spoke about going to Super League for a year to change things up and learn a different style of footy,” Grant said this week.

“I went to Craig [Bellamy] with the idea, but he spoke about going to another NRL club.

“I was lucky I didn’t go to England because it was the COVID year. If I was there, I wouldn’t have played many games at all that season.

“It was a great adventure for me going to the Tigers. I got a lot of exposure and experience, and met some really cool people.

“When you have an opportunity to play NRL, you have to take it, and that’s what 2020 was for me.

“It hadn’t been done before, but I’d encourage other people to take that option up moving forward [if possible].

“I played 15 games that year and was picked for Origin. I was in Origin camp [in Queensland] when the Storm played in the grand final.”

Maguire loved Grant’s appetite for work and application to training, and will never forget the Leichhardt locals chanting his name when he came to the sideline for a well-earned spell one night.

“I’ll never forget the crowd chanting, ‘Harry, Harry’, because they appreciated all the effort he had put in from the time he got to the club,” Maguire said.

“He’s a great player. He works really hard at his game. He’s also very smart. What he is achieving now, he deserves everything because of the hard work he puts in.

“It was Scott Woodward who put the idea to me. We put it to the people down there [Melbourne], they liked the idea, and away we went.”

Bellamy has said on many occasions he never thought he would unearth a classy No.9 as quickly as he did following Smith’s exit.

The supercoach said Grant was always in the club’s long-term plans, and the move to the Tigers was never going to be for longer than 12 months.

“The idea was to give him some experience in first grade,” Bellamy said. “We knew how good a player he was, we knew Cameron was retiring, so it was a win-win for us, a win-win for Harry and a win-win for the Tigers.

“I think it was my idea. We said, ‘You go and play first grade because it will give you a better chance of doing the job better when you come back’. He agreed with that. It was a little bit of a selfish thing for us because we wanted him more than ready by the time Cameron retired. A year in the NRL helped that happen.”

Grant was elevated to captain this year, has arguably become the best hooker in the NRL, and said his last premiership dated back to his junior days with the Yeppoon Seagulls, just south of Rockhampton in Queensland.

 

Perth Tiger

Bench
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Harry gave everything he had as a rookie while he was here and the fans could see that and showed him the appreciation.

we know when players are giving their all or just along for the ride, coasting on their talent and we have had far too many of the latter.
 

Ron's_Mate

Bench
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Three players to front board, another can’t train: Why Benji’s got Tigers right where he wants them

Benji Marshall is bringing in tough love, with emphasis on the tough, as he prepares for the 2025 season.

By Michael Chammas
November 20, 2024

Benji Marshall’s got them walking on eggshells in Tiger town. And it’s exactly where he wants them.

After playing Mr Nice Guy in his first preseason in charge at the Tigers, the coach has flipped the script in a bid to drive a set of standards he hopes will help turn the tide at the struggling club.

Next month three players - Latu Fainu, Solomona Faataape and Solomone Saukuru - will front the Wests Tigers board after being hit with breach notices relating to their performances to start preseason.

The breaches relate to two sets of criteria the trio failed to meet. The first; an expectation around weight and skin folds that they failed to comply with upon returning to training after two months of holidays.

The second related to their fitness levels and an inability to get close to the time assigned to them for a 1.6 kilometre run.

Two other players also failed to meet the standards. Impressive young fullback Heath Mason, who made his NRL debut in 2024, surprisingly didn’t hit the mark during his time trial and was subsequently issued a warning. His lack of conditioning wasn’t deemed serious enough to warrant a breach.

The other player who was issued a warning for failing to meet the time trial expectations placed on him was Brandon Tumeth.

When news of the Tigers’ stern action against the players began to leak out just over a week ago, it put all the senior players, who were yet to return to preseason training due to extended leave entitlements under the collective bargaining agreement, on notice. They responded accordingly on Tuesday with their test results.

But the stern actions of the coach a fortnight ago even prompted new recruit Royce Hunt to volunteer to begin training three weeks before he was scheduled to arrive at the club to give himself time to improve his condition ahead of his time trial and testing in the coming weeks. It would’ve been music to Marshall’s ears.

A notable absentee at training, however, is boom prop Sione Fainu. The 12-game rookie doesn’t have a contract for 2025.

It’s a less than ideal situation given the financial investment in his brothers Latu and Samuela - the Tigers’ recipient of their player of the year award for 2024.

Some clubs wouldn’t want to upset the family, but Tigers CEO Shane Richardson is making a point of not allowing the club to be held to ransom by agents, or players, for that matter. That even goes for Faataape - the client of the chief executive’s son, Brent, now awaiting his date with the always topical Tigers board.

Richardson also flexed his muscle a few months ago when he refused to baulk at a request from the agent of teenage schoolboy sensation Onitoni Large who wanted a clause in his client’s contract that would allow him to walk away from the Tigers if they re-signed fellow young play-maker, Lachlan Galvin.

It’s a fair request given the Tigers also have Jarome Luai on the books for another five years and Latu Fainu tied up on a long-term deal. Richardson, however, let Large walk to Manly with nothing but a guarantee from the Galvin family that they would sit down in the new year to begin discussions about a potential extension beyond the end of his deal that expires after the 2026 season.

Time will tell if that what was the right football decision, especially given how much Canterbury general manager Phil Gould has been singing Galvin’s praises in recent months.

But the Tigers hierarchy feel that they need to show they aren’t going to be pushed around, and messaging off the field is as important as the one’s being relayed on it.

Sione Fainu was under the impression that he was going to get the next available top 30 spot in the roster when it eventually cleared up. With Jayden Sullivan, John Bateman and Brent Naden unwilling - or unable - to find new homes, that vacancy only cleared up recently following the termination of Jordan Miller’s contract for failing to uphold expected standards.

One of those breaches related to him turning up late to training despite assisting police with a domestic violence enquiry unrelated to him. It’s why he’s sort legal advice from former chairman Lee Hagipantelis.

But instead of promoting Fainu to a top 30 deal, the Tigers signed former Roosters prop Terrell May on a three-year contract worth $2 million on Monday.

That same day Sione’s agent Mario Tartak visited Concord seeking a please-explain. Richardson reiterated that the spot was never guaranteed to his client. In fact, the message the Tigers originally relayed was that they were always planning on signing another prop forward before Sione.

They went after Canberra’s Corey Horsburgh and Brisbane’s Kobe Hetherington before negotiations with both players fell through. May was merely filling the spot that had already been assigned to someone else.

Now Sione faces the likelihood of a $1200-a-week train-and-trial contract, pending NRL approval, until something budges at the Tigers.

The Dragons are still exploring the possibility of luring Adam Doueihi to the club as a halves option, but St George Illawarra are also in discussions with South Sydney’s Lachlan Ilias and Cronulla’s Daniel Atkinson.

Richardson knows that most clubs, at this time of year, are still holding out hope for a top-line player to hit the open market.

It’s the kind of unforseen situation that the Tigers themselves benefited from just this week when they secured the services of May on a three-year deal.

There will come a time, however, when some teams will need to fill roster spots or find replacements for players injured in preseason training or trials.

The Tigers are hopeful - once the big dominoes like Ben Hunt and Ryan Papenhuyzen fall - teams might be more willing to look at the lower end of their roster spots. If not, they’ll have to dip into their pockets.

The case surrounding Bateman is fascinating. The Tigers - big on messaging and all - went to the Rugby League Players’ Association a few weeks ago to find out what date the Englishman was due back at training after his stint in the Super League with Warrington.

The RLPA crunched the numbers and conceded that the Tigers were within their rights to order Bateman back to training on the final day of training on a Saturday before the two-week Christmas break. So they did.

Given the animosity between Bateman and his agent Isaac Moses towards the Tigers at the moment, they took it exactly as it was meant; a reminder that he was unwanted after falling out with the coach over perceived unfair treatment.

He isn’t the only player to have fallen out with Marshall in 2024. Naden found himself on the outer after refusing to shake the coach’s hand after their match at Magic Round. Marshall voiced his displeasure at Naden’s sin-binning at half-time.

Naden thought the coach overstepped the mark and made it personal, taking exception to the way he was spoken to by the coach. It’s the same gripe Bateman had with Marshall after a loss to South Sydney later in the year, as well as a belief that the younger players weren’t being held to the same account as the senior ones. The start of preseason speaks to a shift in that mentality.

For now, Bateman is scheduled back at training in the new year. Moses was able to get Warrington to provide documentation that Bateman in fact underwent a series of medical examinations and corporate appearances in the week after the Wolves’ final game that meant he wasn’t due back at training for another week and secured his absence from training until the new year. The RLPA changed its position.

Given the Tigers’ desire to release a number of players, it has created a perception that their recent decision to issue breaches and warnings for preseason performances was more a reflection of their desire to create roster spots than a culture building exercise.

The Tigers strongly refute those assertions. They want players who are willing to put in the extras.

Marshall’s coaching style has already met resistance. His second year at the helm is in the make-or-break territory after the club slumped to their third consecutive wooden spoon last season.

The roster is largely his, having the final say on all recruitment matters since he was anointed Tim Sheens’ successor. Some of those decisions are already coming back to bite him, so he’s changing the way he does things. Avoiding claims of mixed messaging is also paramount to his success.

Michael Maguire went down this path before. Marshall was there as a player and saw first hand how his former teammates resisted Maguire’s approach to change. It led to the now-Broncos coach’s demise in what was a train-wreck of a four-year campaign at the joint venture club.

The difference for Marshall, however, is that he might just have the players who are willing to change.

 

Tigerm

Coach
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Three players to front board, another can’t train: Why Benji’s got Tigers right where he wants them

Benji Marshall is bringing in tough love, with emphasis on the tough, as he prepares for the 2025 season.

By Michael Chammas
November 20, 2024

Benji Marshall’s got them walking on eggshells in Tiger town. And it’s exactly where he wants them.

After playing Mr Nice Guy in his first preseason in charge at the Tigers, the coach has flipped the script in a bid to drive a set of standards he hopes will help turn the tide at the struggling club.

Next month three players - Latu Fainu, Solomona Faataape and Solomone Saukuru - will front the Wests Tigers board after being hit with breach notices relating to their performances to start preseason.

The breaches relate to two sets of criteria the trio failed to meet. The first; an expectation around weight and skin folds that they failed to comply with upon returning to training after two months of holidays.

The second related to their fitness levels and an inability to get close to the time assigned to them for a 1.6 kilometre run.

Two other players also failed to meet the standards. Impressive young fullback Heath Mason, who made his NRL debut in 2024, surprisingly didn’t hit the mark during his time trial and was subsequently issued a warning. His lack of conditioning wasn’t deemed serious enough to warrant a breach.

The other player who was issued a warning for failing to meet the time trial expectations placed on him was Brandon Tumeth.

When news of the Tigers’ stern action against the players began to leak out just over a week ago, it put all the senior players, who were yet to return to preseason training due to extended leave entitlements under the collective bargaining agreement, on notice. They responded accordingly on Tuesday with their test results.

But the stern actions of the coach a fortnight ago even prompted new recruit Royce Hunt to volunteer to begin training three weeks before he was scheduled to arrive at the club to give himself time to improve his condition ahead of his time trial and testing in the coming weeks. It would’ve been music to Marshall’s ears.

A notable absentee at training, however, is boom prop Sione Fainu. The 12-game rookie doesn’t have a contract for 2025.

It’s a less than ideal situation given the financial investment in his brothers Latu and Samuela - the Tigers’ recipient of their player of the year award for 2024.

Some clubs wouldn’t want to upset the family, but Tigers CEO Shane Richardson is making a point of not allowing the club to be held to ransom by agents, or players, for that matter. That even goes for Faataape - the client of the chief executive’s son, Brent, now awaiting his date with the always topical Tigers board.

Richardson also flexed his muscle a few months ago when he refused to baulk at a request from the agent of teenage schoolboy sensation Onitoni Large who wanted a clause in his client’s contract that would allow him to walk away from the Tigers if they re-signed fellow young play-maker, Lachlan Galvin.

It’s a fair request given the Tigers also have Jarome Luai on the books for another five years and Latu Fainu tied up on a long-term deal. Richardson, however, let Large walk to Manly with nothing but a guarantee from the Galvin family that they would sit down in the new year to begin discussions about a potential extension beyond the end of his deal that expires after the 2026 season.

Time will tell if that what was the right football decision, especially given how much Canterbury general manager Phil Gould has been singing Galvin’s praises in recent months.

But the Tigers hierarchy feel that they need to show they aren’t going to be pushed around, and messaging off the field is as important as the one’s being relayed on it.

Sione Fainu was under the impression that he was going to get the next available top 30 spot in the roster when it eventually cleared up. With Jayden Sullivan, John Bateman and Brent Naden unwilling - or unable - to find new homes, that vacancy only cleared up recently following the termination of Jordan Miller’s contract for failing to uphold expected standards.

One of those breaches related to him turning up late to training despite assisting police with a domestic violence enquiry unrelated to him. It’s why he’s sort legal advice from former chairman Lee Hagipantelis.

But instead of promoting Fainu to a top 30 deal, the Tigers signed former Roosters prop Terrell May on a three-year contract worth $2 million on Monday.

That same day Sione’s agent Mario Tartak visited Concord seeking a please-explain. Richardson reiterated that the spot was never guaranteed to his client. In fact, the message the Tigers originally relayed was that they were always planning on signing another prop forward before Sione.

They went after Canberra’s Corey Horsburgh and Brisbane’s Kobe Hetherington before negotiations with both players fell through. May was merely filling the spot that had already been assigned to someone else.

Now Sione faces the likelihood of a $1200-a-week train-and-trial contract, pending NRL approval, until something budges at the Tigers.

The Dragons are still exploring the possibility of luring Adam Doueihi to the club as a halves option, but St George Illawarra are also in discussions with South Sydney’s Lachlan Ilias and Cronulla’s Daniel Atkinson.

Richardson knows that most clubs, at this time of year, are still holding out hope for a top-line player to hit the open market.

It’s the kind of unforseen situation that the Tigers themselves benefited from just this week when they secured the services of May on a three-year deal.

There will come a time, however, when some teams will need to fill roster spots or find replacements for players injured in preseason training or trials.

The Tigers are hopeful - once the big dominoes like Ben Hunt and Ryan Papenhuyzen fall - teams might be more willing to look at the lower end of their roster spots. If not, they’ll have to dip into their pockets.

The case surrounding Bateman is fascinating. The Tigers - big on messaging and all - went to the Rugby League Players’ Association a few weeks ago to find out what date the Englishman was due back at training after his stint in the Super League with Warrington.

The RLPA crunched the numbers and conceded that the Tigers were within their rights to order Bateman back to training on the final day of training on a Saturday before the two-week Christmas break. So they did.

Given the animosity between Bateman and his agent Isaac Moses towards the Tigers at the moment, they took it exactly as it was meant; a reminder that he was unwanted after falling out with the coach over perceived unfair treatment.

He isn’t the only player to have fallen out with Marshall in 2024. Naden found himself on the outer after refusing to shake the coach’s hand after their match at Magic Round. Marshall voiced his displeasure at Naden’s sin-binning at half-time.

Naden thought the coach overstepped the mark and made it personal, taking exception to the way he was spoken to by the coach. It’s the same gripe Bateman had with Marshall after a loss to South Sydney later in the year, as well as a belief that the younger players weren’t being held to the same account as the senior ones. The start of preseason speaks to a shift in that mentality.

For now, Bateman is scheduled back at training in the new year. Moses was able to get Warrington to provide documentation that Bateman in fact underwent a series of medical examinations and corporate appearances in the week after the Wolves’ final game that meant he wasn’t due back at training for another week and secured his absence from training until the new year. The RLPA changed its position.

Given the Tigers’ desire to release a number of players, it has created a perception that their recent decision to issue breaches and warnings for preseason performances was more a reflection of their desire to create roster spots than a culture building exercise.

The Tigers strongly refute those assertions. They want players who are willing to put in the extras.

Marshall’s coaching style has already met resistance. His second year at the helm is in the make-or-break territory after the club slumped to their third consecutive wooden spoon last season.

The roster is largely his, having the final say on all recruitment matters since he was anointed Tim Sheens’ successor. Some of those decisions are already coming back to bite him, so he’s changing the way he does things. Avoiding claims of mixed messaging is also paramount to his success.

Michael Maguire went down this path before. Marshall was there as a player and saw first hand how his former teammates resisted Maguire’s approach to change. It led to the now-Broncos coach’s demise in what was a train-wreck of a four-year campaign at the joint venture club.

The difference for Marshall, however, is that he might just have the players who are willing to change.

Cheers
 

Tiger05

First Grade
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Three players to front board, another can’t train: Why Benji’s got Tigers right where he wants them

Benji Marshall is bringing in tough love, with emphasis on the tough, as he prepares for the 2025 season.

By Michael Chammas
November 20, 2024

Benji Marshall’s got them walking on eggshells in Tiger town. And it’s exactly where he wants them.

After playing Mr Nice Guy in his first preseason in charge at the Tigers, the coach has flipped the script in a bid to drive a set of standards he hopes will help turn the tide at the struggling club.

Next month three players - Latu Fainu, Solomona Faataape and Solomone Saukuru - will front the Wests Tigers board after being hit with breach notices relating to their performances to start preseason.

The breaches relate to two sets of criteria the trio failed to meet. The first; an expectation around weight and skin folds that they failed to comply with upon returning to training after two months of holidays.

The second related to their fitness levels and an inability to get close to the time assigned to them for a 1.6 kilometre run.

Two other players also failed to meet the standards. Impressive young fullback Heath Mason, who made his NRL debut in 2024, surprisingly didn’t hit the mark during his time trial and was subsequently issued a warning. His lack of conditioning wasn’t deemed serious enough to warrant a breach.

The other player who was issued a warning for failing to meet the time trial expectations placed on him was Brandon Tumeth.

When news of the Tigers’ stern action against the players began to leak out just over a week ago, it put all the senior players, who were yet to return to preseason training due to extended leave entitlements under the collective bargaining agreement, on notice. They responded accordingly on Tuesday with their test results.

But the stern actions of the coach a fortnight ago even prompted new recruit Royce Hunt to volunteer to begin training three weeks before he was scheduled to arrive at the club to give himself time to improve his condition ahead of his time trial and testing in the coming weeks. It would’ve been music to Marshall’s ears.

A notable absentee at training, however, is boom prop Sione Fainu. The 12-game rookie doesn’t have a contract for 2025.

It’s a less than ideal situation given the financial investment in his brothers Latu and Samuela - the Tigers’ recipient of their player of the year award for 2024.

Some clubs wouldn’t want to upset the family, but Tigers CEO Shane Richardson is making a point of not allowing the club to be held to ransom by agents, or players, for that matter. That even goes for Faataape - the client of the chief executive’s son, Brent, now awaiting his date with the always topical Tigers board.

Richardson also flexed his muscle a few months ago when he refused to baulk at a request from the agent of teenage schoolboy sensation Onitoni Large who wanted a clause in his client’s contract that would allow him to walk away from the Tigers if they re-signed fellow young play-maker, Lachlan Galvin.

It’s a fair request given the Tigers also have Jarome Luai on the books for another five years and Latu Fainu tied up on a long-term deal. Richardson, however, let Large walk to Manly with nothing but a guarantee from the Galvin family that they would sit down in the new year to begin discussions about a potential extension beyond the end of his deal that expires after the 2026 season.

Time will tell if that what was the right football decision, especially given how much Canterbury general manager Phil Gould has been singing Galvin’s praises in recent months.

But the Tigers hierarchy feel that they need to show they aren’t going to be pushed around, and messaging off the field is as important as the one’s being relayed on it.

Sione Fainu was under the impression that he was going to get the next available top 30 spot in the roster when it eventually cleared up. With Jayden Sullivan, John Bateman and Brent Naden unwilling - or unable - to find new homes, that vacancy only cleared up recently following the termination of Jordan Miller’s contract for failing to uphold expected standards.

One of those breaches related to him turning up late to training despite assisting police with a domestic violence enquiry unrelated to him. It’s why he’s sort legal advice from former chairman Lee Hagipantelis.

But instead of promoting Fainu to a top 30 deal, the Tigers signed former Roosters prop Terrell May on a three-year contract worth $2 million on Monday.

That same day Sione’s agent Mario Tartak visited Concord seeking a please-explain. Richardson reiterated that the spot was never guaranteed to his client. In fact, the message the Tigers originally relayed was that they were always planning on signing another prop forward before Sione.

They went after Canberra’s Corey Horsburgh and Brisbane’s Kobe Hetherington before negotiations with both players fell through. May was merely filling the spot that had already been assigned to someone else.

Now Sione faces the likelihood of a $1200-a-week train-and-trial contract, pending NRL approval, until something budges at the Tigers.

The Dragons are still exploring the possibility of luring Adam Doueihi to the club as a halves option, but St George Illawarra are also in discussions with South Sydney’s Lachlan Ilias and Cronulla’s Daniel Atkinson.

Richardson knows that most clubs, at this time of year, are still holding out hope for a top-line player to hit the open market.

It’s the kind of unforseen situation that the Tigers themselves benefited from just this week when they secured the services of May on a three-year deal.

There will come a time, however, when some teams will need to fill roster spots or find replacements for players injured in preseason training or trials.

The Tigers are hopeful - once the big dominoes like Ben Hunt and Ryan Papenhuyzen fall - teams might be more willing to look at the lower end of their roster spots. If not, they’ll have to dip into their pockets.

The case surrounding Bateman is fascinating. The Tigers - big on messaging and all - went to the Rugby League Players’ Association a few weeks ago to find out what date the Englishman was due back at training after his stint in the Super League with Warrington.

The RLPA crunched the numbers and conceded that the Tigers were within their rights to order Bateman back to training on the final day of training on a Saturday before the two-week Christmas break. So they did.

Given the animosity between Bateman and his agent Isaac Moses towards the Tigers at the moment, they took it exactly as it was meant; a reminder that he was unwanted after falling out with the coach over perceived unfair treatment.

He isn’t the only player to have fallen out with Marshall in 2024. Naden found himself on the outer after refusing to shake the coach’s hand after their match at Magic Round. Marshall voiced his displeasure at Naden’s sin-binning at half-time.

Naden thought the coach overstepped the mark and made it personal, taking exception to the way he was spoken to by the coach. It’s the same gripe Bateman had with Marshall after a loss to South Sydney later in the year, as well as a belief that the younger players weren’t being held to the same account as the senior ones. The start of preseason speaks to a shift in that mentality.

For now, Bateman is scheduled back at training in the new year. Moses was able to get Warrington to provide documentation that Bateman in fact underwent a series of medical examinations and corporate appearances in the week after the Wolves’ final game that meant he wasn’t due back at training for another week and secured his absence from training until the new year. The RLPA changed its position.

Given the Tigers’ desire to release a number of players, it has created a perception that their recent decision to issue breaches and warnings for preseason performances was more a reflection of their desire to create roster spots than a culture building exercise.

The Tigers strongly refute those assertions. They want players who are willing to put in the extras.

Marshall’s coaching style has already met resistance. His second year at the helm is in the make-or-break territory after the club slumped to their third consecutive wooden spoon last season.

The roster is largely his, having the final say on all recruitment matters since he was anointed Tim Sheens’ successor. Some of those decisions are already coming back to bite him, so he’s changing the way he does things. Avoiding claims of mixed messaging is also paramount to his success.

Michael Maguire went down this path before. Marshall was there as a player and saw first hand how his former teammates resisted Maguire’s approach to change. It led to the now-Broncos coach’s demise in what was a train-wreck of a four-year campaign at the joint venture club.

The difference for Marshall, however, is that he might just have the players who are willing to change.


This is a really good article.
 

Nutz

First Grade
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This is a really good article.
Thanks for going to the trouble of putting the whole article in here Tiger as it's so much more enjoyable. Better than just putting up a link that we have to open.
I'll do more of that, well done.
It was surprising to read about Heath Mason being one of the players involved.
He has the best rig in the squad but he failed the run.
Most of those guys are biggish lads but no excuse. They are inexperienced and hopefully will learn from this.
 

Tigerm

Coach
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10,727
Thanks for going to the trouble of putting the whole article in here Tiger as it's so much more enjoyable. Better than just putting up a link that we have to open.
I'll do more of that, well done.
It was surprising to read about Heath Mason being one of the players involved.
He has the best rig in the squad but he failed the run.
Most of those guys are biggish lads but no excuse. They are inexperienced and hopefully will learn from this.
It should be a 3 strikes policy.
This is not a democracy, perform or perish.
It’s absolute rubbish to turn up under done.
It’s been over a decade.
 

Tigerm

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Agree It's professional football. If your underdone your not professional.
It would be every sportsman’s dream to be a professional in there sport.
They are all young blokes, they should be jumping out of their skin for the opportunity they’ve been given. There is no off season.
WTF is the pathways teaching them.
 

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It would be every sportsman’s dream to be a professional in there sport.
They are all young blokes, they should be jumping out of their skin for the opportunity they’ve been given. There is no off season.
WTF is the pathways teaching them.
Pathways is an apprenticeship hey.
Not too many electricians get their ticket if they skip tech school or miss being taught how to wire up lights and power points.
Young players do similar training from HM through to development squads.
Then there's no guarantee they'll make or stay in first grade.
They must know how to play the game, know the fundamentals and rules backwards. An NRL coach shouldn't have to coach these basics.
When blokes like
These kids must wonder what had hit them when they don't make it. What now?
So not doing things at 110% and not being a sponge regarding learning the game is dumb dumb dumb.
It’s not 2 or 300k, he’s on $750k, so unless someone takes him, we are stuck with a shut deal.
He maybe eluding to if another club really wants him ala manly, then usually the clubs come to an agreement. Quiet ofter you'll read about clubs contributing around 2-300k a season towards the new contract.
Trouble is he has heaps of years to run and he's not considered a marquee player anymore.
 

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I’m surprised that Faataape is one that turned up under done, while I don’t think he will be a main stay in FG, he did play a few games, would have expected better from all of them, but more so from him.
 
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I’m surprised that Faataape is one that turned up under done, while I don’t think he will be a main stay in FG, he did play a few games, would have expected better from all of them, but more so from him.
There’s a footy player in him somewhere.

I rate him as one of sub-prospects, a slow learner, but at least he has shown he can count to 5 in a footy sense!

Thanks @Ron's_Mate. Good to see the old forum can still produce the goods every now and then.
 
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While I love being able to read Tigers articles, it shits me off to no end how everything we do gets blasted in the media. There is no way you can tell me that there aren't at least 5 players in every top 30 roster that come back to training underdone. The scrutiny of our club is ridiculous.

The Jordan Miller thing is a bit worrying. If the bloke has a genuine excuse then I really don't think it's worth a sacking.
 

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