Rate Noddys kicking game

[millersnose]

i used to be a coach apparently

 

[PeacheyPower]

A kicking game is helped by having someone else in the team who can kick? That player in the Sharks is..............

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Having just compared the kickers after watching last weekends games.

Noddy was at the tail end. Sorry Millers there are glaaring deficincies in his technique & results.

What the good kickers have in common
1)Able to control the ball. Spin, swing, style
2) accuracy
3) distance
4) choice
5) THE BIGGIE!!!! The good kickers changed the flow of the game to help their team by long kicks, 40/20's or repeat sets.

From last weekend the good kickers were Gower, Orford, Dylkes, Lockyer, Giddley, Campbell.

Then Daylight

The Sharks need a better kicker. Someone who can get about another 15 metres on their kicks. At this stage BK is about 20 metres behind Gowers kicks.
He needs to massively improve his kick decisions.
He needs to play the full set.

Most of all he needs to stop complaining publicly about others training & attitudes, & improve his kicking game by 30-40% in EVERY area if he wants to the team to improve.

 

[Macca]

Maybe you should have named this thread "Rate Noddy's kicking game against the Cowboys"

Overall he is one of the best in the game Reefy. Granted he his kicking game was part of the rubbish we saw last Saturday but you are a bit quick to jump all over him here.

If you want blame him for a bad kicking game then you should blame that on his huge reliance on our forwards getting over the advantage line. Something we didn't do last week.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Noddys kicking game has been average, at best, all year. Not just against the cowboys.

Along with the players going better, with their training & attitude, double that improvement in Noddys kicking game & Ill be happy. Very.

We won't improve with an average kicker, with average kicks.

His downtowns are the worst in the NRL from inside the half. The distance is appaulingly low.
It has nothing to with the forwards. They are looking to his boot to give them a bit of an advantage & at best, his wimpy kicks are applying more pressure than they are relieving.

& then when he kicks from the attacking half, 78% of his kicks this season have gone dead. Appauling.

Massive improvement required.
& the mail is that Noddy's re-selection for Australia has nothing to do with Gowers incredible form, but more to do with Gowers far superior kicking game.

 

[Alan Shore]

Peachey has a decent boot on him and I'd like to see him used as an alternate kicker a bit more. Against the Dogs he kicked a few times and the defence didn't touch him. Good idea.

 

[King of the Hill]

I've never been a fan of Noddy's kicking game
I like his chip but we dont see it that often
Sometimes he has a great kicking game but it's very very rare
Even his top games he manages to kick it dead a few times (vs Newcastle 2002)

The worry is I dont know if it's something he can really improve quickly

Edit: This is something I've been talking about since the start of 2002. The last tackle option in particular...it used to ALWAYS be a pissy little grubber into the in-goals that the chasers didnt know where it was going to be aimed at. I guess back in those days though at least we used to be near the opposition's try line on the 5th tackle...ahh memories

 

[millersnose]

Having just compared the kickers after watching last weekends games.

Noddy was at the tail end. Sorry Millers there are glaaring deficincies in his technique & results.

What the good kickers have in common
1)Able to control the ball. Spin, swing, style
2) accuracy
3) distance
4) choice
5) THE BIGGIE!!!! The good kickers changed the flow of the game to help their team by long kicks, 40/20's or repeat sets.

From last weekend the good kickers were Gower, Orford, Dylkes, Lockyer, Giddley, Campbell.

Then Daylight

The Sharks need a better kicker. Someone who can get about another 15 metres on their kicks. At this stage BK is about 20 metres behind Gowers kicks.
He needs to massively improve his kick decisions.
He needs to play the full set.

Most of all he needs to stop complaining publicly about others training & attitudes, & improve his kicking game by 30-40% in EVERY area if he wants to the team to improve.

with due respect reefy that doesnt sound like a verry scientific study

it sounds like your opinion

 

[blacktip-reefy]

I watched all games today.
Scientific enough for me.

 

[chili pepper]

Having just compared the kickers after watching last weekends games.

Noddy was at the tail end. Sorry Millers there are glaaring deficincies in his technique & results.

What the good kickers have in common
1)Able to control the ball. Spin, swing, style
2) accuracy
3) distance
4) choice
5) THE BIGGIE!!!! The good kickers changed the flow of the game to help their team by long kicks, 40/20's or repeat sets.

From last weekend the good kickers were Gower, Orford, Dylkes, Lockyer, Giddley, Campbell.

Then Daylight

The Sharks need a better kicker. Someone who can get about another 15 metres on their kicks. At this stage BK is about 20 metres behind Gowers kicks.
He needs to massively improve his kick decisions.
He needs to play the full set.

Most of all he needs to stop complaining publicly about others training & attitudes, & improve his kicking game by 30-40% in EVERY area if he wants to the team to improve.

The guy is a great player but his kicking has been average at best this year.

Not enough distance when going downtown and still kicking the occassional grubber into defenders legs.

Still think he is too flat and therefore rushing his kicks costing him accuracy and distance.

 

[markstan]

Having just compared the kickers after watching last weekends games.

Noddy was at the tail end. Sorry Millers there are glaaring deficincies in his technique & results.

What the good kickers have in common
1)Able to control the ball. Spin, swing, style
2) accuracy
3) distance
4) choice
5) THE BIGGIE!!!! The good kickers changed the flow of the game to help their team by long kicks, 40/20's or repeat sets.

From last weekend the good kickers were Gower, Orford, Dylkes, Lockyer, Giddley, Campbell.

Then Daylight

The Sharks need a better kicker. Someone who can get about another 15 metres on their kicks. At this stage BK is about 20 metres behind Gowers kicks.
He needs to massively improve his kick decisions.
He needs to play the full set.

Most of all he needs to stop complaining publicly about others training & attitudes, & improve his kicking game by 30-40% in EVERY area if he wants to the team to improve.

with due respect reefy that doesnt sound like a verry scientific study

it sounds like your opinion

Well if you cant control the ball, spin and style you cant kick a ball properly. You probably release it from a high position. Swing is a different story it can be greatly affected by wind however some can naturally compensate or you can add swing by kicking different positions of the ball or adjust your feet, and effort.

Accuracy is pritty easy too if you know the conditions and there not too bad it's a piece of cake.

Dont know what distance has to do with it the best kicker ever in rugby league was langer and he rearly got great distance. Distance can be important in some cases but sometimes a ball that hits the deck and runs at 45 is better than one that goes 50 and into the bread basket.

Choice: dont really understand this just crap bandied around by the nine team. They generally bring it up when people do short kicks and they dont work out yet when they do they go off there heads with delight.

You can change the flow of the game by big tackles other kicks surprise not just big kicks. Big kicks play there part but the fact people get so many 40-20's, is in fact a sad indightment on full backs cos really they should be paying attention if there right footed and looking for 40-20's go to your right.

Kicking is quite easy to defuse if you know how to! Gower isn't a great kicker anyteam that puts any pressure on him would work it out his style is very flawed, as is Campbell's and Dykes. Orford's is ok but far from superb, Lockyer's is visually not to bad but isn't what it use to be. Gidley i haven't really seen

 

[blacktip-reefy]

If Gower & Lockyer can't kick, then all kickers are in trouble!!

IMO the ball is hit so sweetly of Lockyers boot, you can read an expression of gratification on the face of the ball, as it flys downfeild at record distance.


And BTW, alfie was a good kicker, but others were used for clearing kicks or distance kicks.

 

[Macca]

Lockyer is the best in the game closely followed by Gower IMO. Locky used to play AFL didn't he?

 

[markstan]

If Gower & Lockyer can't kick, then all kickers are in trouble!!

IMO the ball is hit so sweetly of Lockyers boot, you can read an expression of gratification on the face of the ball, as it flys downfeild at record distance.


And BTW, alfie was a good kicker, but others were used for clearing kicks or distance kicks.

Never said Lockyer couldn't kick, merely it has droped a bit, although what helps him is he is Left footed and therefore naturally can kick further than rights. Gower is a shade of Lockyer thats for sure lockyer caresses the ball Gower kicks the crap out of it and technically the action has so many faults.

 

[fatshark]

9 out of 10 :lol: :lol:

 

[Mr Angry]

If Gower & Lockyer can't kick, then all kickers are in trouble!!

IMO the ball is hit so sweetly of Lockyers boot, you can read an expression of gratification on the face of the ball, as it flys downfeild at record distance.

I am yet to see the equal of Wally, it is all about when, and f**k me I am yet to see and equal (still booing Wal), Johns comes close.
Kimmorley goes pretty damn well , but Wally, Sterlo, and Johns are the standouts in this department IMHO.
Lockyer has a couple of years at his natural position to match them, I think he will and his running game is better than all of them.
Gower has a very impressive kicking game also, good enough for a premiership.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

He booted them straight over the black dot from the sideline.
He put them into the ingoal but more chasing from the Sharkies.
He got a scrum from the kickoff just like on X Box.
He kicked deep in general play.
He kicked acurately with the cross field kicks for the wingers.
He grubbed for Peachey's try.

Thankyou linesman and ballboys!!!!

 

[imasharkie]

He booted them straight over the black dot from the sideline.
He put them into the ingoal but more chasing from the Sharkies.
He got a scrum from the kickoff just like on X Box.
He kicked deep in general play.
He kicked acurately with the cross field kicks for the wingers.
He grubbed for Peachey's try.

Thankyou linesman and ballboys!!!!

I think you will find sullivan did the grubber for peach's try

 

[Dragon Slayer]

 

[Dragon Slayer]

You sure it was pretty early on in the game?