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Chins

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Cheating was long in the past. Its a big neg for me but you can't fake the consistency they've had. He is doing something right.

The bomb is in vogue its the right play. They just haven't had their full strength spine together. Hughes is the key to everything. They just aren't as good without him.

And that right there ^^^ is the only excuse for allowing Hughes to play. He had a lay off and they wanted to get him some game time. But I bet you Ivan Cleary doesn't play Hughes in that game last night. Bellamy f**ked up.
Ivan rushed back a broken Yeo just 2 weeks ago
 

Fangs

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Ivan rushed back a broken Yeo just 2 weeks ago

To'o and Cleary along with others playing injured too.

Different circumstances. The Top 4 was alive. And prior to that we were dead last needing to win every game to make the 8. You have to play when it matters. Last night really didn't matter to anyone except Bellamy's ego.

We changed tact when we realized the top 4 was almost a pipe dream. Our chance was to beat Raiders/Storm and we threw both games away. Then came the great rest that we will tell our grandchildren about.
 

age.s

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The Storm are always top of my list of teams I dont want to win a premiership, so Bellamy pissing away his halfback like that makes me warm/fuzzy inside.
 

Chins

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No late changes. Really disappointing Ivan isn't resting a few more especially Yeo
 

Fangs

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Just don't use all the gears. Little bit of WD40 and just making sure they are moving.
 

PennyPanthers81

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Remember in 2022 the biggest worry was that Staines had to come in for an injured Taylan May?
Now we’ve got Eiso and f**king Brad S on the bench.
 

betcats

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What other coach has been anywhere near as consistent as bellamy? Name me a coach that has 10 years straight in the 8? They dont exist.
 

Frankus

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The Storm are always top of my list of teams I dont want to win a premiership, so Bellamy pissing away his halfback like that makes me warm/fuzzy inside.
I hate the Storm as much as just about anyone you will ever meet. In saying that, seeing Hughes go down with a busted arm his first game back from a dislocated shoulder was not good.
 

age.s

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What other coach has been anywhere near as consistent as bellamy? Name me a coach that has 10 years straight in the 8? They dont exist.
I know we've had this argument in the past, but Ivan is now 6 years straight, including (at least) 5 straight grand finals.
 

Chins

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I hate the Storm as much as just about anyone you will ever meet. In saying that, seeing Hughes go down with a busted arm his first game back from a dislocated shoulder was not good.
Yeah Hughes is ok.


Now if it was NAS or merkinster then laugh away
 

betcats

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I know we've had this argument in the past, but Ivan is now 6 years straight, including (at least) 5 straight grand finals.

This is not the same argument as we had previously. Ivan turned us around this year, just doing that has him back in the goat convo IMO.

That being said, 6 top 8s in a row has him at what, half of Bellyaches current streak of top 8 finishes? Maybe not even half, at this stage it looks like the only thing that will keep bellamy from the top 8 is retirement or death. How can anyone say Bellamy isnt a great coach when no other coach comes close to his long term consistency? Sure Ivan has the goat run over the last 6 years, but Belyache is the goat getting teams in top 8, usually top four. T

I get not liking bellamy, but not rating him is mind boggling. Id have him over every coach bar Ivan right now. Dont mention Bennet to me please, he is 15 years removed from his last success and gets absolutely smoked in the h2h stats with Bellyache. Also he has 1 impressive prem with the Dragons, and 6 premierhships he won with a broncos team that IMO had just as much of an advantage as storms over the cap team. Those broncos were very likely cheating and if they weren't i dont think any other club could pull off those teams without cheating, not even the rorters.
 

Chins

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This is not the same argument as we had previously. Ivan turned us around this year, just doing that has him back in the goat convo IMO.

That being said, 6 top 8s in a row has him at what, half of Bellyaches current streak of top 8 finishes? Maybe not even half, at this stage it looks like the only thing that will keep bellamy from the top 8 is retirement or death. How can anyone say Bellamy isnt a great coach when no other coach comes close to his long term consistency? Sure Ivan has the goat run over the last 6 years, but Belyache is the goat getting teams in top 8, usually top four. T

I get not liking bellamy, but not rating him is mind boggling. Id have him over every coach bar Ivan right now. Dont mention Bennet to me please, he is 15 years removed from his last success and gets absolutely smoked in the h2h stats with Bellyache. Also he has 1 impressive prem with the Dragons, and 6 premierhships he won with a broncos team that IMO had just as much of an advantage as storms over the cap team. Those broncos were very likely cheating and if they weren't i dont think any other club could pull off those teams without cheating, not even the rorters.
He's a bum until he wins without Smith
 

Chins

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Youd almost have a point if they fell off a cliff after smith retired but that never happened.
I'm obviously being hyperbolic with the hate because he's a merkin of a human but he handed us the 2021 premiership with that awful bench he picked in the preliminary and last night was an absolute disaster.
 

betcats

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I'm obviously being hyperbolic with the hate because he's a merkin of a human but he handed us the 2021 premiership with that awful bench he picked in the preliminary and last night was an absolute disaster.

Well no one picks benches to your satisfaction. They are tailing off pretty badly right now tho if it continues like this it will be a bad look for bellyache, i expected them to be fired up after the loss last week but no coach is perfect, its nice to see them getting flogged. Anyway the reason they dont have one post cameron smith is our run over the years since smith retired. We became the greatest nrl era team and we knocked them out in PF or GF 3 out of the last 4 years. If we were just a normal good team and not the goats they would likely beat us one of those years.
 

Frankus

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What other coach has been anywhere near as consistent as bellamy? Name me a coach that has 10 years straight in the 8? They dont exist.
Of the other coaches outside Ivan and Bellamy, Robinson deserves a shout. 3 premierships and only missed the finals once in the past 13 seasons. I hate the Roosters but have met Trent a couple of times at Thredbo and he is a nice bloke.
 

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