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Rd19: Parramatta v Warriors LIVE GAME DAY thread 27/7/19

strider

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So we are happy to turn the game into some safety first, dont try and set yourself up for an offload pile of shit?

Dumbest bullshit rule
 

Bazal

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So we are happy to turn the game into some safety first, dont try and set yourself up for an offload pile of shit?

Dumbest bullshit rule

No.

But I am happy to have more of an onus on ball carriers to hold the damn thing when some bloke is all over the ball.

Offload when you are free to offload.
 

Noise

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We know how to drop off tackles, mate.
Maybe BA's weekly email to the players used a comma instead of the word 'while'

Hey boys,

Brad Arfurz here. This week we are going to start stripping the ball, players dropping off tackles.....
 

Poupou Escobar

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Not when some merkin is reefing at it, no.

Would you?
If they got rid of this dumb rule merkins wouldn't be reefing at it long after the ball is wrapped up and the tackle is effectively complete. As it is, ball carriers are going to have to go into contact with both arms wrapped around the ball like a f**ken little bitch and there'll be far fewer offloads or even players using their fend.
 

Poupou Escobar

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No.

But I am happy to have more of an onus on ball carriers to hold the damn thing when some bloke is all over the ball.

Offload when you are free to offload.
You stop being free to offload only when some merkin has wrapped the ball up. But by then, if the defence is smart, that defender now has better control of the ball than the ball carrier, because he has both hands around it while some other defender is occupying the attacker's other arm. The only way to make a fair contest is for the attacker to hold the ball in two hands as soon as he's in contact with the defence. That'll make offloads as rare as uncooked chicken from Iberia.
 

Bazal

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Yet the average offload stats haven't dipped much, if at all... Curious for something that is being killed off.

Perhaps the players who are consistently good at offloading the footy are consistently good because they know when to offload, and all this drama about killing second phase play is an overreaction to the fact that shit offloaders like Evans and Takairangi have had to be less dumb?
 

IFR33K

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The new stripping rule is ridiculous because no way in the world the refs could police it with consistency. They’re already struggling for that why place extra pressure/scrutiny on them.
 

strider

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Yet the average offload stats haven't dipped much, if at all... Curious for something that is being killed off.

Perhaps the players who are consistently good at offloading the footy are consistently good because they know when to offload, and all this drama about killing second phase play is an overreaction to the fact that shit offloaders like Evans and Takairangi have had to be less dumb?
Early days ... every merkin will get into it and it will become a bore fest
 

Bazal

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Early days ... every merkin will get into it and it will become a bore fest
The good offloaders will still offload. That's why they are good offloaders.

And the players who can pass at the line in the middle will have a fking field day.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yet the average offload stats haven't dipped much, if at all... Curious for something that is being killed off.

Perhaps the players who are consistently good at offloading the footy are consistently good because they know when to offload, and all this drama about killing second phase play is an overreaction to the fact that shit offloaders like Evans and Takairangi have had to be less dumb?
Offloads will drop off significantly when these 'one-on-one' steals drop off. At the moment most players haven't adjusted.
 

Kornstar

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The problem with the rule is that because merkins continue to try and wrestle the ball away with multiple players in the tackle and the player with the ball is trying not to have the ball stolen, the f**king useless refs let the tackle go on and on and then that’s when they coordinate and drop off the tackle.

If the referees would call held earlier or blow a penalty for hand on the ball there would be much less issues.

It has to go in its current state, it is shit and a terrible spectacle and just another version of wrestling!
 

Bazal

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The problem with the rule is that because merkins continue to try and wrestle the ball away with multiple players in the tackle and the player with the ball is trying not to have the ball stolen, the f**king useless refs let the tackle go on and on and then that’s when they coordinate and drop off the tackle.

If the referees would call held earlier or blow a penalty for hand on the ball there would be much less issues.

It has to go in its current state, it is shit and a terrible spectacle and just another version of wrestling!

I don't disagree with this.

As with quite a few NRL rules of late, the rule isn't the problem, the referees are
 

84 Baby

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The new stripping rule is ridiculous because no way in the world the refs could police it with consistency. They’re already struggling for that why place extra pressure/scrutiny on them.
This
The problem with the rule is that because merkins continue to try and wrestle the ball away with multiple players in the tackle and the player with the ball is trying not to have the ball stolen, the f**king useless refs let the tackle go on and on and then that’s when they coordinate and drop off the tackle.

If the referees would call held earlier or blow a penalty for hand on the ball there would be much less issues.

It has to go in its current state, it is shit and a terrible spectacle and just another version of wrestling!
And this.
Once every f**ker starts doing it, the game will either becoming big f**kers cradling the ball and just running for 5 tackles then a kick, hot potato so no player gets isolated against multiple attackers or like the olden day shitfests of striking in ruck, teams constantly turning ball over in a confusing, boring mess
 

crocodile

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No.

But I am happy to have more of an onus on ball carriers to hold the damn thing when some bloke is all over the ball.

Offload when you are free to offload.
Unfortunately that doesn't work so well when there are 3 or 4 blokes reefing at the ball and arms.
 

Gary Gutful

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And if Kearney did a "Brad Arthur" and not said a word would there have been such a reaction?
The worse decision I saw all weekend was the Souths forward pass to win their game in the dying seconds vrs the Dragons. That was an absolute shocker.
If Kearney did a "Brad Arthur" he would have got the rub of the green during the game against the Eels.

#SilentAssassin
 

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